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The Search for Trip Weed

bushweed

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Mustafunk, I've admired those[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Angola/ Meao Thais for some time, what a beautiful leaf structure....ThaiBliss my friend, I love the look of the lanky sativas most of all, the Jamaican sounds awesome, looking forward to an update on your other plants as well. I have good news and bad news regarding the Thai x NH/MM. The bad news is that most are late to flower. This larger one is behind the pure Thais so far, but hope the 6.25% Northern Lights kicks in soon:biggrin:. That's an indica joke for anyone unfamiliar with sativa humor. The good news is that the smells on the smaller flowering plants are stupendous. Like a very sweet musk candy. Like the smell of the mother, but magnified in all aspects. My favorite terpene is generally myrcene, associated with Mango and common to [/FONT]many sativas and sat/ind hybrids, but I have to say the smell on the Thai x NH/MM's is killing it. I'm still hopeful the flowering time is reduced enough to give you some encouragement to try one....
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...[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] I have good news and bad news regarding the Thai x NH/MM. The bad news is that most are late to flower... ...The good news is that the smells on the smaller flowering plants are stupendous... ...[/FONT]I have to say the smell on the Thai x NH/MM's is killing it...

Bushy,

More good news, the structure on it is gorgeous! I know that most people would not want to see that long internode length, but that is another trait of that one Thai I once successfully grew. The picture of the early 70s Thai x the late 70s Thai, that you posted on the "Pure Thai" thread, has that look also, even more so. I was going to mention the similarity on the other thread. In the case of the Thai x NH/MM, it looks like it might have picked that trait up from the Mullumbimby Madness.

The current trip weed flowering is progressing quickly. The Nanan-Bouclou is swelling a bit, looking like rock hard buds, and the pistils are getting thicker and bending in a wormy way. Surprisingly, the Zamaldelica x Malawi is getting a scattering of dying pistils and increasing resins, which makes it look like it wants to race the NB to the finish line. I'm starting to cut the already very light nutrient level, and start the flush. It's smelling sickly sweet in there also, from both. To me, that is the smell of resins being produced. I'll post pictures on the weekend.

Your pictures of your fall flowering plants helps makes it feel like spring here. It got over 70 degrees Fahrenheit here last weekend. I'm growing some outside this year, and the Bangi Haze and Nepal Jam seeds are in the ground! Actually, in small pots for now. The state of Oregon made Medical Marijuana Dispensaries legal starting this month, though there are still federal and local law conflicts that are being worked out. My extra bud, over the 1.5 pound limit, can be sold, at cost, to a dispensary, so I plan to grow them over 8 feet tall, if luck permits. They won't be Bushy or Kangtiva size, but they will be in the full sun and should get quite round and bushy shaped.

Best,

ThaiBliss
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ThaiBliss

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You mean dispensary patients will have access to outdoor sativa? :good:

Ha! Don't tell anyone. I'm not going to mention it if they don't ask. I believe indoor is preferred. I think the buds are less leafy and more resinous looking when grown under lights. What an upside down world we live in.

B.T.W., It has been only 6 weeks of flowering, so far, for the Nanan-Bouclou and Zamaldelica x Malawi. Both look to be very quick strains.

ThaiBliss
 

yesum

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^^ Curious what 'at cost' means? How do they know what it cost you for the seeds, clones, electricity, supplies?
 

bushweed

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Yeah you're right TB, the MM is lanky, whereas the GN Thai mother was really bushy...
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I remember when I first posted some shots of Gypsy's Thai, an old grower contacted me and said that along with the long tall sallys, he used to see quite a bit of the bushy types when they grew out Thai seeds in the 70s...I also have friends who used to deal pot back then and one of the strongest Thais they remember had a comparatively dwarf type stature.

Awesome to hear of the improving legal situation in Oregon. It would be nice to be the connoisseur sativa supplier to a dispensary or three, and then maybe give up your day job and spend your time in the nursery. It seems the most sativa leaning lines people see in a lot of dispensaries are SSH and Blueberry. Along with Bangi and Nepjam you might want to stick some SAGE in the ground for bulk...Imagine rocking up with some wispy Purple Haze. "Oh OK dude what's that then?"
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ThaiBliss

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^^ Curious what 'at cost' means? How do they know what it cost you for the seeds, clones, electricity, supplies?

Yes,

I'm curious also. I'm trying to figure that out. I think there is a "cost" of the risk of getting into legal trouble. It is still illegal under federal law, and they, the feds, are going after some of the bigger operations around here.

This week I have been reading state law regarding dispensaries. Not the most exciting reading. I have to take notes, and re-read several times to confirm my impressions. Non profit is an "interesting" subject.

ThaiBliss
 

Raco

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it still hurts....:cry:

A few years ago I gifted a few Tom´s Haze x Panama/Moños Rojos...
my friend took cuts and then put the plants outdoors

He flowered the cuts before trying the outdoor product and didn´t keep copies.

The herb was killer...I don´t hate him but I´ll never share again

the fucker complained about low weight ...when he smoked the herb...well...wtf...arghhhh!




 
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ThaiBliss

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Greetings,

I have some picture updates of what I have going for my trip weed hopefuls. It is a bit embarrassing after seeing everyone else's good photography of beautiful plants and buds. But, they are my babies, so I trust you will suffer quietly.

First of all is the Nanan-Bouclou. I have heard reports from Idiit with descriptions like "intense" and "very potent". But perhaps not psychoactive in a trippy way. Potency is half the battle, and perhaps we'll find a special one for quality of effect. If there is not couch-lock, then we may be 3/4 of the way there. Here is a picture of a bud:

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Next up is the Mostly Malawi, Zamaldelica x Malawi Gold. This one is much more Sativa looking. Both strains that comprise this strain have had excellent reviews. It may be a matter of finding that special one. Here it is:

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As these ripen up, I am growing the next plants for the flowering cabinet. These are the Jamaicans. The seeds are from a preservation project by some dedicated group of friends in Europe. Much respect for keeping a good line pure. I am so thrilled to be able to test these. I had a Jamaican Ganja experience when I was young, back in the early 70s that I will never forget. If this is even in the same ballpark, I am extremely fortunate to have this opportunity. Here are the little seedlings. I call this first one the fat leaf pheno. Ha:

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This other Jamaican is real Sativa beauty:

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I think this close up of an early leaf shows what I think is its S.E. Asian heritage. I consider the old Jamaican lines to be in the same top shelf class as Thai Stick and Sumatran. I believe an old trading route from S.E. Asia to Acapulco Mexico, overland to Vera Cruz, and sailing on to Cuba and Jamaica is the route taken by these genetics:

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Raco - I feel your pain on losing a great strain. I have lost more than a few in my life. I lost one world class strain that was even early for my latitude, 42 degrees north. It got done in mid September. That may have been my most valuable loss since it could have been used to make other high grade tropical strains early enough for outdoor grows in temperate climates. I was the fucker who screwed that one up. I did give it to a friend who passed it on to another. I tried to get it back after I messed mine up. I was told they tried to root it, gave up, and stopped watering it. When my friend pulled out the dried up plant, it had roots. That was the story I was told. They may have not thought much of the way it looked. It had very skinny leaves, and this was in the beginnings of the fat leaf Indica craze in our area. As of now, I don't have even a tropical strain in my possession that is as good as that one was.

Then again, maybe I have it, but do not know it yet.


ThaiBliss
 

idiit

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tb, that's a great looking nanan bouclou. both of mine look like they have a lot of haitian hence no/less psychoactivity. i'm really hoping for you that you got a png dom nb. really looking forward to your smoke reports on all your young ladies. :)
 

bushweed

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They look great, esp. the frosty Nanan-Bouclou leaves and pure sativa florescence of the Zamalawi.
I was really scratching my head when I first saw idiit's flowering shots of the Nanan-Bouclou a couple of pages back.
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The photo triggered a memory but I couldn't put my finger on exactly what, other than it had something to do with Tom Hill's Haze and how both hybrids look to have some indica content despite being advertised as 100% sativa. Somehow as I was writing this the penny dropped, it was a specific shot of Tom's Haze I remembered...

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Of course I'm not saying Tom's haze contains PNG, or that the Haitian component of NB contains similar Meso/Colombian roots (it might). Just commenting on the similarity of the ridged, indica looking leaves.

I think this close up of an early leaf shows what I think is its S.E. Asian heritage. I consider the old Jamaican lines to be in the same top shelf class as Thai Stick and Sumatran. I believe an old trading route from S.E. Asia to Acapulco Mexico, overland to Vera Cruz, and sailing on to Cuba and Jamaica is the route taken by these genetics:

It's an interesting theory, possibly a little nebulous.
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The rastas refer to ganja as 'collie', which pundits have theorized originates from the South Indian Sadhu worship of - Kali, but I think probably has more to do with the influx of numerous Colombian strains into Jamaica. When you look at a map of Jamaica it is equidistant from both Mexico and Colombia, both of which have a rich and broad cannabis history, however it was specifically the Colombian Colly which the Rastas glorified in numerous reggae and songs from the 70s.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHDmmT3YSKM

In marijuana Botany Rob Clarke ruminates further on the primary influence of Colombian cannabis in Jamaican cannabis strains, as well as the influence of Mexican strains.
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That last sentence gives you hope, but as you noted on the previous page, that Santa Marta Gold looks like a Thai. Hehe
 

idiit

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the haitian influence is very frosty. pictures don't even come close to doing 'em justice. my more png influenced pheno is very frosty as well. i will post some tighter bud shots off my more png leaning pheno. tb's png dom looks way different than either of my nb phenos.

the second more png dom pheno of mine gave off an exquisite smoke aroma when i tested her fan leaves. the smoke aroma and the high effects as well as potency on the more png dom pheno were even better (significantly better)than the haitian fan leaf burn/smoke test. ozg says the png is where the trippy high effects of nanan bouclou come from. this could be important info for early selection of males and females in choosing specimens for in line breeding for subsequent either haitian or png lines out of nb. png also has a more reddish look to her and haitian a very lush green look as reported by ozg at sss company. pictures are in my albums and i will continue to update.
 

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Early Morning Ruminations

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I was really scratching my head when I first saw idiit's flowering shots of the Nanan-Bouclou a couple of pages back.

The photo triggered a memory but I couldn't put my finger on exactly what, other than it had something to do with Tom Hill's Haze and how both hybrids look to have some indica content despite being advertised as 100% sativa. Somehow as I was writing this the penny dropped, it was a specific shot of Tom's Haze I remembered...

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Of course I'm not saying Tom's haze contains PNG, or that the Haitian component of NB contains similar Meso/Colombian roots (it might). Just commenting on the similarity of the ridged, indica looking leaves.

Very interesting.

It's an interesting theory, possibly a little nebulous.

It is nebulous to me also, especially after smoking the Ganja. But I speak with 45 years of personal experience of distinctly different phenotype/chemotype expressions while smoking and growing as an end point of the smugglers routes receiving buds, hash, and seeds from Mexico, Jamaica, Colombia, and Thailand (S.E. Asia). Crazy thing is, the Jamaican Ganja buds were the first Sensimillia I ever smoked, but the hash from Jamaica had seeds.
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Colombian always had at least a few seeds, and I believe Mexican weed did also. Ironic, huh. Mexican weed was the first Cannabis I was smoking, but I was much less aware of what was going on. I believe the first Cannabis I ever actually bought was Colombian, much later.

P.S. Note: Wow! The language I am using is as mixed up as the Cannabis genetics. I am using a Spanish (Mexican) term to describe the Ganja, an Indian term used by the Jamaicans. Pretty revealing, I think. I did not do this on purpose as a part of my point. It just naturally flowed from describing my past experience using terms picked up by those experiences.

The rastas refer to ganja as 'collie', which pundits have theorized originates from the South Indian Sadhu worship of - Kali, but I think probably has more to do with the influx of numerous Colombian strains into Jamaica.

I don't have direct experience of the Jamaican language used related to Cannabis, as I was 3 or more levels of separation from the direct contact of the grower from two different sources, but I do know that the smugglers/purveyors of the product used the term "Ganja" when selling the product in the very early 70s, at least from my source. It wasn't until the early 80s that I had heard the term "Lambsbreath" for a product purportedly from Jamaica. Ironically, IMO, the "Ganja" was far superior to the "Lambsbreath" or "Lambsbread". I'm still not yet willing to concede that the term is actually "Lambsbread".
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When you look at a map of Jamaica it is equidistant from both Mexico and Colombia, both of which have a rich and broad cannabis history, however it was specifically the Colombian Colly which the Rastas glorified in numerous reggae and songs from the 70s.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHDmmT3YSKM

Here is a crazy wrench in the works: I believe the Indians used in Jamaica as indentured servants were primarily from North East India, and referred to by the British as "Coolies". I believe this is a mispronunciation of the actual term that the indentured laborers referred to themselves (or their religion?) as. I don't know if this was intentional or not, like Negros being called "Niggers". It probably was. The more you learn about history, the more you realize what greedy assholes people can be. I only bring up the "Coolie" point from my ignorance and the fact that it is a little too close to "Colly" for me to just let it slide without wanting clarity. I actually looked it up in the past, but I'm forgetful and lazy.

In marijuana Botany Rob Clarke ruminates further on the primary influence of Colombian cannabis in Jamaican cannabis strains, as well as the influence of Mexican strains.View Image

That last sentence gives you hope, but as you noted on the previous page, that Santa Marta Gold looks like a Thai. Hehe

I would not assume a one directional migration of Cannabis in the area. Certainly money, and unfortunately guns, went in the other direction, also with a possible stop in Jamaica on the way back down. Why not genetics from the area with a tradition/history of Mexican from a possible S.E. Asian source of genetics and culture.

Let me review here, what my experience is with American phenotype/chemotypes. Early Mexican weed and early Jamaican Ganja are both clear and energetic compared to Colombian, and are more like Thai Stick to me. But between Mexican and Jamaican, Jamaican was even more like Thai Stick, especially because of the potency. However, I may have had a more close and direct source from Jamaican than Mexico, as I lived in more of the eastern side of the United States, until the late 70s. It was the late 70s and early 80s when it all got fucked up by Colombian genetics flowing into Jamiacan and then Indica genetics, from gringos mostly, flowing into both Jamaican and Mexico.

But... "That's just like my opinion, man".

B.T.W., is India not S.E. Asian? Forgive my ignorance, but Indians are Asian people, correct? They are certainly south of the center of Asia. Are they east enough? We have a messed up perspective here partly because early Europeans thought they were in India when first "discovering" the Americas, and partly because we are too self centered to learn geography. Native Americans are still often referred to as Indians, and we have to refer to actual Indians as East Indians. It's been over 500 years. It sure is hard to kill a rumor!
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Messed up, huh?

ThaiBliss
 

ThaiBliss

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the haitian influence is very frosty. pictures don't even come close to doing 'em justice. my more png influenced pheno is very frosty as well. i will post some tighter bud shots off my more png leaning pheno. tb's png dom looks way different than either of my nb phenos.

the second more png dom pheno of mine gave off an exquisite smoke aroma when i tested her fan leaves. the smoke aroma and the high effects as well as potency on the more png dom pheno were even better (significantly better)than the haitian fan leaf burn/smoke test. ozg says the png is where the trippy high effects of nanan bouclou come from. this could be important info for early selection of males and females in choosing specimens for in line breeding for subsequent either haitian or png lines out of nb. png also has a more reddish look to her and haitian a very lush green look as reported by ozg at sss company. pictures are in my albums and i will continue to update.


Idiit,

Thanks for the clarifications. Looking forward to more pictures, if possible.

Thanks again. Have a great day.

ThaiBliss
 

finallylegal

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TB I love this thread - especially the opening note; it brings me back.

Around 68 a friend bought a $20 bag that was - as you say - trippy. And it had the same effect every time and when the bag was gone I never had anything that good again till a trip to Mexico in 70. A couple we just met had some weed from Zacatecas. 4 of us in a VW beetle lost a skinny joint somewhere between 1/2 and 2/3 gone. Then realized we were lost (on the only road from the beach to town). Laughter, paranoia and that sense of almost hallucinating but not - just like my friend's $20 bag. That was my last. By the mid 80's friends were paying $300 for a zip of "top quality product" - which didn't come close to the $20 bag that we called "weed".

I was growing my own outside in new England but it was immature bag seed and never worth a whole lot for 30 years after that.

Now I'm a patient, indoor grower, and content with couch lock indicas. But would love to be able to get gonzo again. When you find it let us know.

It's a worthy quest you're on. Peace........
 

ThaiBliss

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Hi FinallyLegal,

Thanks for the affirmation and the funny story that adds to the lore. It's only a matter of time before we find it and spread it around again.
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All the Best,

ThaiBliss

TB I love this thread - especially the opening note; it brings me back.

Around 68 a friend bought a $20 bag that was - as you say - trippy. And it had the same effect every time and when the bag was gone I never had anything that good again till a trip to Mexico in 70. A couple we just met had some weed from Zacatecas. 4 of us in a VW beetle lost a skinny joint somewhere between 1/2 and 2/3 gone. Then realized we were lost (on the only road from the beach to town). Laughter, paranoia and that sense of almost hallucinating but not - just like my friend's $20 bag. That was my last. By the mid 80's friends were paying $300 for a zip of "top quality product" - which didn't come close to the $20 bag that we called "weed".

I was growing my own outside in new England but it was immature bag seed and never worth a whole lot for 30 years after that.

Now I'm a patient, indoor grower, and content with couch lock indicas. But would love to be able to get gonzo again. When you find it let us know.

It's a worthy quest you're on. Peace........
 

yesum

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I had read that so called collie weed was a way of saying kali. Indian origins then.
 

Cool Moe

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Back in the early 80s a homie had a hefty bag full of Jamaican buds that was the strongest trip weed I've ever smoked to this day. Massive, foot-long fat ass buds, more brown/gold/red than green, sticky as all hell with a high similar to mushrooms or soft lsd. Very few beans but the ones we found were as big as lemon seeds, sure wish I'd had the smarts to save em. Today more than 30 years later and some of my old chums still bring up that Jamaican banana bud.
 

RandyCalifornia

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I've traveled extensively in the inner, west side of Jamaica, by foot a lot of the way. I remember walking through large agricultural areas where there were little isolated indian villages where you felt you were in India walking along the road. The people were still living like they just came off the boat, cooking and dressing like they looked, E. Indian.
I personally think the real good Ja. Kali, Lambsbread, ganja, whatever you want to call it has it's roots in India. Too many parallels, to count. I'm sure Colombian and Mexican have some influences but India is wayyyyy more represented amongst the people of Ja. in so many ways.
And yes the herb was strong in Ja. if you found the good Kali herb. It brought me close to loosing control, I saw others loose it and want to go back home. It's all where your heads at, mine was in a real good place.
 

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No doubt the major original influence on Jamaican ganja tradition was East India, just have to look at Rastafarianism to realize that.

The roots of the Jamaican ganja complex can be traced to the Indian sub-continent. During the latter part of the 19th century, its prototypical forms were carried to the island by East Indian indentured laborers recruited to replace the emancipated slaves in the cane fields. Present day techniques and types of ganja use, critical parts of the ganja lexicon, as well as much of the justificatory ideology lend strong support to a claim of a direct India to Jamaica diffusion. The great majority of ganja users in contemporary Jamaica, however, are not East Indians, who form only a small minority of the population, but Black laboring people, both rural and urban, descendants of the African slaves forcibly brought to the New World in the 17th and 18th centuries. Although the exact process is not known, it appears that ganja and associated behaviors were relatively quickly incorporated and reworked into the cultural inventory pf the Black lower section of Jamaican society and, despite sixty years Of strin-gent sanctions against its cultivation, distribution, and consumption, it, as a complex, has thrived and proliferated throughout the country. At this point in time, the Indian paternity of the complex has, for all intents and purposes, been forgotten. In fact, some culturally militant Black users now claim Africa as the original source of Jamaican ganja, and cite Biblical references to the existence of "the herb," or marihuana, on King Solo-mon's tomb.
http://www.drugtext.org/Cannabis-and-Culture/the-social-nexus-of-ganja-in-jamaica.html

However, Hindus are very reverential of their deities, I can't say I've ever heard of any Indian use a deity's name as a euphemism for something else. Westerners on the other hand have no compunction doing that. Who knows?

Lee Scratch Perry - 1976
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Madjag's tale of supplying Skunk to the Rastas in NY makes me laugh...
The Bedford Stuyvesant section of Brooklyn is home to a large Caribbean immigrant culture that includes Trinidadians, Haitians, Bahamians, and especially Jamaicans. It was once a quaint Dutch ethnic neighborhood full of fine Brownstone apartments and flats that over decades, like many other the traditional borough neighborhoods, mutated into something entirely different. In1980 the bustling NY herb business was king and the looming epidemic of crack cocaine for commoners was still on the horizon, left to Manhattanites and high-end borough boys in the know.

After a fairly long getting-to-know-you period, my new Bed Stuy friends started buying up every bud of Mexican Sinse we could get their hands on. This smoke was as good if not better than their legendary Lamb’s Bread that never quite lived up to its name, at least the commercial quantities that hit NY streets. A nice load of spicy Oaxacan or some potent Guerrero Gold held them captive and put them at the top of their marketplace. People beat down their doors for more. We were modest in our goals and kept small and reasonable in our deliveries. Let’s just say we had cross-country shipping for our modest business level down to a fine science. Our cover never failed even when challenged closely a few times by the man. No method is bulletproof, they only seem that way until the first failure, yet we never hit that failure and our Rasta pipeline continued for 4 or 5 years.

An interesting aspect of working in Bed Stuy was that white boys stuck out like a sore thumb. Even more obvious was seeing a tall Dreadlock walking together with a white guy. Can you say “Business”? We worked at night as much as possible, connecting at a little basement flat that served as the shop for small deals up to ½ pound. It was in this stash flat not far from Nostrand Boulevard that I spent a lot of time watching customers come and go, mumbling that beautiful Jamaican patois through a crack in the door and then stepping in when cleared for action. My Rasta friends didn’t do business with American blacks who they called Yankee Boys. Some barrier there just kept the two apart. I believe it was concerned with ethnic loyalty and the concept that if a man went down and he was a Jamaican he wouldn’t spill on the rest of the JA crew. Just as well I suppose. In all the moments I witnessed of buyers coming and going I saw only Caribbean men spending dollars with my Rasta crew. The meetings were brief, quiet, and peaceful. Shots rang out on rare occasions some nights, however they were always from down the street. Packing heavy hardware was essential for working in the shop, but using it onsite was never an option unless it was in response to an all out attack or rip-off attempt. Would that be likely with a dreadie opening the door with a Mac 9 in his hand?

It was a warm evening when I stopped by Satta’s flat. The shop near Nostrand was extra busy and Mr. S wanted me to stop a different flat with Ricky to discuss the homegrown I had been telling him about. He was aware of the reputation of domestic super herb, however he personally had never tested any. Curiosity was flying high this night after my repeated mentions of homegrown and Mr. S just had to find out. Even his Lieutenant Ricky laughed when I pulled out a skinny pin joint made from a paper torn lengthwise…a ½ paper filled with tiny broken bud pieces lined up and crammed into a straight line. I, too, was laughing for a different reason knowing full well what laid ahead. I was sure he would be devastated like so many other experienced smoke fiends had been before upon trying this new and truly powerful herb from the expanded genetics of Haze, Skunk, and Afghani strains.

Mr. S took the second long pull after my startup toke. He saw how long and intensely I was pulling on the pinner and did the same perfectly. I reached for the joint before he could finish laughing and take his second hit. I wanted him to truly take the tour and evaluate firsthand what one toke could do. It was probably only seconds, but it seemed like a minute or two later that he got a bit strange and was mumbling to Ricky in that enchanting Kingston patois. Suddenly we were going. I barely grabbed my coat and boomed out the door with Rick. We had been banished.

The next day Mr. S called and made it known that we had to come over immediately. Right now, seen. Once inside his tidy, St. James Place brownstone flat with plastic-covered furniture and Jamaican wood art, I began an uncomfortable exchange with him about how and why I had spiked him. He knew that the pin needle had LSD in it and that he had been tripping. After he had quickly sent us out and locked the doors, he had to run in place for 20 minutes, maybe longer, merely to regain his equilibrium and focus. Everything had gone wacky and he just didn’t see a way back. Luckily his body took over and saved the day (night).

I can speak very plainly and neutrally when needed. I adopt a “science guy” persona and can peacefully describe a situation in a way that will reach most people, I just have to be patient and methodical: say the truth in metered chunks that make sense. I did this for Mr. S and he knew that I was right on. I felt him release as I continued my explanation. He was a real devil when it came to testing people. For instance, he once paid us an extra 2 grand for a load and did so intentionally just to see if we’d report his “mistake”. Slowly his brain cramps came down enough for him to smile, laugh, and start jabbering a mile a minute about how fucking incredible this weed was and how nobody, nobody! in his posse had any idea how powerful it was gonna be. Customers would be in his hand and at his command, yes I. Oh what a wonderful land Brooklyn was. And praise be to the Arizona guys for, in this case, the venerable Sam S and RCC Afghani #1. That good herb was Jah Mighty.
 
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