The Roadkill Skunk Fan Club

[ozza]

Anyone that believes that Mendo Joe made Skunk #1 is also stupid enough to believe Sacred Seeds was a collective of many growers. There was only one, me, I made Skunk #1 and I started and was the only seed maker for Sacred Seeds. I did not sell Skunk #1 seeds until the later 70's. I took it to Europe in 1984, others may have taken it earlier who knows as Skunk #1 was a true breeding poly-hybrid and easy to knock off seeds.
If you believe Sacred Seeds was a collective it just shows how far from the truth you are, ask someone that was there, not johnny come lately's that read made up stories on the web and take them as truth.
I can lead you to the truth,
but I can't make you believe or even listen.
No problem, I do know the truth.
As do the people I care about.

-SamS

Well I'm not talking about Skunk #1. I don't believe any of the stories, you've said your side of the story and I don't think anyone else has come forth and told a decent opposite story, just a lot of stories someone told them or they heard.

What I want to know from you Sam is: Do you know the Road kill Skunk that everyone is talking about? The stinky one? Is it Skunk #2 or #18.2 or whatever? Is it even something that you bred with? or is it a different strain to your skunk #1? From the stories around people say that you bred the smell out partly because it was not your ideal plant and partly because it simply stunk too much and was getting everyone busted. Is this true?

Sorry if you have been asked this bullshit over and over again. You can PM me to F@#$ off if you want.

I don't know. I think for myself. To me Skunk would have had to have been around already as a name for stinky weed and you were the first one to actually make a stable skunk strain which you called skunk #1. It could be backwards I guess. If skunk was around as a colloquially name for stinky weed, then maybe the RKS or Old School Skunk has nothing to do with your skunk#1. Maybe it's just an Afghany or Nl original. I don't know. I am asking though.

You can lead us to the truth,
you do know the truth.

 

[bigherb]

Sams

Thanks for sharing . After soo long it's great to hear these details


Ozza

Did you read this thread ?

All your questions have been answered more than once


1luvbigherb

 

[Fly by Night]

 

[Seaf0ur]

I don't know. I think for myself. To me Skunk would have had to have been around already as a name for stinky weed and you were the first one to actually make a stable skunk strain which you called skunk #1.

the opposite... skunk used to mean something very specific.
as that became more rare, "skunk" became just a common term for good weed that smelled a bit.

 

[HidingInTheHaze]

FWIW in the UK "skunk" is a slang term for potent pot.

This is why the whole thing becomes so confusing when talking about skunk on the international level.

There is skunk then there is dead skunk. What I wouldn't do to find that lime green dead skunk buds with that stink again buds that shit that would stick to the bag and had the unmistakable smell.

When I first started getting into weed in the 90s it seemed most weed had the skunk stink this is why I think it had to be another strain that was popular in the 90s and early 2000's. Something like NL, Shiva, Super Skunk etc.... It would probably be pretty good to organize a list of strains that were popular thru the 90's.

I'd love to look thru some shiva's myself, but no one seems to grow this stuff anymore and its very hard to find any info about it before I waste the time and money.

The skunky buds I used to get looked more like guerrilla outdoor, most likely grown from bag seeds or something else that was easily accessible at the time.

 

[Elmer Bud]

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G`day FBN

You are the Harpo Marx of this board ...

Thanks for sharin

EB .

 

[JointOperation]

FWIW in the UK "skunk" is a slang term for potent pot.

This is why the whole thing becomes so confusing when talking about skunk on the international level.

There is skunk then there is dead skunk. What I wouldn't do to find that lime green dead skunk buds with that stink again buds that shit that would stick to the bag and had the unmistakable smell.

When I first started getting into weed in the 90s it seemed most weed had the skunk stink this is why I think it had to be another strain that was popular in the 90s and early 2000's. Something like NL, Shiva, Super Skunk etc.... It would probably be pretty good to organize a list of strains that were popular thru the 90's.

I'd love to look thru some shiva's myself, but no one seems to grow this stuff anymore and its very hard to find any info about it before I waste the time and money.

The skunky buds I used to get looked more like guerrilla outdoor, most likely grown from bag seeds or something else that was easily accessible at the time.

uk skunk i thought was 90s skunky skunk..

also known as uk cheese. ? or am i completly off./.

 

[ozza]

In the beginning, 1976, most SKUNK #1's were skunky as hell.
The smell was just like a dead skunk. I could smell grows outdoors or even early indoor grows sometimes a few blocks before the grow.
The seeds from the best used to make other seeds, the males were from the best line from the year before, the line was maintained by seeds only as clones were not used back then. Because the line was maintained by seed a natural variation exsisted, the plants were not Homozygous they were Heterozygous, even if they did breed pretty much true.
I selected the best in my opinion for about ten years and reproduced the Skunk #1 each year a bit sweeter as I like the high much better then the RKS, which did not get me high, it just got me loaded.
After 10 years I take Skunk #1 elite seed lines to Amsterdam, I also had a some Skunk #2 that were much more RKS like, I did not work with them.
In the Netherlands I started to use clones to make seeds, and by its nature changed Skunk #1 by using clones. I selected the best 10 females and the best 10 males from a really large crop of thousands of Skunk #1. I took the resulting clones and crossed them, making 100 populations of 200 plants each, 100 females to evaluate from each cross. When I decided which population gave the best and most consistant results I used that female clone and the chosen male clone to make seeds. The resulting seeds are consistant as hell and give grows that look like a crop from clones. They do have a small bit of variation but they do not change year to year. But they are all sweet. Because that is what I like and spent my time to create. These were used by most other seed companies to make Skunk and Skunk hybrid lines.
REMEMBER THAT MOST SKUNK SEEDS AVAILABLE ARE MADE BY OTHER BREEDERS USING MY LINES, NOT ME!!
I do not like the herb that gets you totaly loaded, physical, couchlock....
I do respect others choices, if they want it fine...
But I do not like it at all, I want to get so high I don't know what I am doing, but I do not want to get loaded, I do not like it.
-SamS


Is a post I found from the beginning which was posted by someone else saying it is Sam. I don't know if it is actually Sams post. If it is yes Skunk was originally skunky as hell. Sam grew his own variety called skunk#1 selected to the sweeter side of the equation and contiued in that direction. Otherwise he is stating that he was the first person to ever call cannabis skunk and every skunk on the planet came from seeds that he sold and originally it was a skunky pheno and he sold seeds of that and continued to breed it differently every year from 1976 till 1986 when he popped his seeds that now make up his clones which I believe from his posts are the clones now used for the sweeter skunk #1. That would mean any seeds from 1976 to 1986 that are Skunk #1 would all bee different plants/pheno's and have more characteristics/different characteristics then Sams skunk. Skunk #2 he said was skunkier be he did not work with it. Did anyone else? Did he give away/sell any of this plant?

I also sold Skunk #1 X Afghani #1 seeds pre 1980, maybe it is that? Let me smell the buds and I bet I could tell. But it is not pure Skunk #1. Maybe a hybrid?

-SamS

I would think this is closer to what I would be looking for?

Of course CHEESE is close, it was bred by me, named by others, it was Skunk #1 seeds that grew CHEESE.

-SamS

More like Outbred by you.

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Your clone is from 1986 from seeds from 82-84? Then they are basically the same as my clones as mine were grown from seeds I made back in 80-84. Your clone is the same age as mine I popped mine in 1986. From seeds made around the same time as the seeds you used.
The differences is in the selection of what clone to keep.
I selected mine from 20,000 Skunk#1, they were selected because they were the best as well sweeter with a more up high, I also did specific combining ability trials with the selected 10 girls and the selected best 10 boys, so I used 100 plants from each of the 100 different combinations from the (10 females X 10 males selected the year before), so 10,000 plant for trials. That showed which female gave the highest quality, strongest, biggest yielder, most consistent progeny, etc, etc. It also showed which males contributed to the highest quality, strongest, biggest yielder, most consistent progeny, etc, etc. And that allowed choices to make future Skunk#1 seeds if I wanted the most consistent, or the highest quality, or best tasting, or strongest, etc, it was easy to do so. If that single trait was more important I could use the best clones male and female for that, or if all were of similar importance, I liked using the most consistent maker of seeds. Every plant from these seeds looked like it was the same "clone" even thousands and thousands of plants all from seed......
Is your clone skunky, or sweet skunky?
-SamS

And Big Herb you had a go at me but asked the exact same sorta question as me only pages ago? WTF?

Im interested what can Sams tell us about the Skunk#2 ,maybe you should PM him he is active recently

If I recall seeing a Red hair mexican Pheno offered, not sure why I think it was IN relation to the Sk#2

Best wishes with those seeds an i hope you keep us posted


1luvbigherb

I think maybe as Sam sold seeds a lot of Skunks may have got out or been round beforehand, and possibly that is the reason why Sam eventually called his Skunk#1 to distinguish his from all others.

Like I said maybe Sam did create all the Skunk in the world. Maybe he didn't too.

The only way he could really prove all the things he says about having Roadkill skunk seeds and they were older stock of his would be to grow one out and tease us all again. He said he's not gunna and not interested. I was just asking questions on a Road kill skunk thread.

The seeds I remember someone had to be breeding it as they always bred true. They were tiger striped big like an indica and it was a short plant with palette or plates leaves either side. Light green. Stinky. Maybe it was Sams Skunk * Nl don't know do I or I wouldn't be here.

 

[darkvade420]

its stll out there its just rare .i had some a few years back when i was in high school.when i was in middle school you could score this stuff all day long in 10 dime bags from the local compressed weed dealers like it was no thang.in high school when i got it it was in the form of nug but still had the same smell like a skunk sprayed it had that yellow smoke and got you zooted after a few tokes.keep looking.the problem is people arelooking to dispences for this product and you walk out thinking there is no such breed left the thing is most of these med shop owners never touched pot untill they were given the green light to sale.They not old school pot heads". i was even told when i had asked them about it in one of the stores if they had a breed that smelled just like skunk spray it would be gross and they wouldnt be able to sale that kinda product lol. you want good weed you need to find people who smoked some point in there life.
The kinda guys that would have this kinda thing laying around are like my step dad who wouldnt buy a bag from a legal weed store in denver cause he was worried about the list his name would be on its wierd but it how old school dudes who grew up smoking pot can be lol.good luck

 

[Seaf0ur]

FWIW in the UK "skunk" is a slang term for potent pot.

This is why the whole thing becomes so confusing when talking about skunk on the international level.

The UK only very recently had the animal skunk released into the wild by skunk breeders... its a slang term because the majority of the UK wouldn't know the smell of an actual skunk until it hit em in the face...

 

[KITCHA]

An original skunk #1 that is extremely RKS smelling is alive and well in Australia. The clone was smuggled back from Amsterdam in a pen via Sensi Seeds years ago in the late 80's from memory along with super skunk and another strain that I can't remember. I will reach out and see if I can get more detail, the finished product is without a doubt what is being mentioned in this thread. Cheers Kit

 

[window]

The UK only very recently had the animal skunk released into the wild by skunk breeders... its a slang term because the majority of the UK wouldn't know the smell of an actual skunk until it hit em in the face...

You are right in the U.K people call any stinky weed or even any indoor grown sensi, skunk weed.
I believe the first Afghanis that made there way to the U.S were referred to as skunk weed not to be confused with Sam's hybrid, the original skunk # 1.
I wouldn't want anything stinky'er than cheese, it costs me a small fortune in odour control when I grow her and a lot of people won't grow it and refer to it as jail bait.
For you guys in the U.S that grow legally and busts are not a problem I wish you luck in finding your rks but for me and many others cheese has all the road kill we need, lol.
I personally prefers to call cheese by her proper name, Skunk # 1.

 

[Seaf0ur]

You know the bad part... even where its legal like here in colorado, most city and town councils still enact limits including "odor violations"... these are so arbitrary and open to interpretation that you cant really fight them.... still gotta be careful to know the municipal codes revolving around cannabis for whatever location you might think to re-locate to...

 

[ozza]

An original skunk #1 that is extremely RKS smelling is alive and well in Australia. The clone was smuggled back from Amsterdam in a pen via Sensi Seeds years ago in the late 80's from memory along with super skunk and another strain that I can't remember. I will reach out and see if I can get more detail, the finished product is without a doubt what is being mentioned in this thread. Cheers Kit

well I know it is still over here. In Australia. Kitcha are you talking bout red beard though?

 

[MOneYMiKe]

This is the time of year for that unmistakable musk...smelt it the past few days and seen 3-4 skunks on the road...deep musk funk....ahhh

 

[Elmer Bud]

An original skunk #1 that is extremely RKS smelling is alive and well in Australia. The clone was smuggled back from Amsterdam in a pen via Sensi Seeds years ago in the late 80's from memory along with super skunk and another strain that I can't remember. I will reach out and see if I can get more detail, the finished product is without a doubt what is being mentioned in this thread. Cheers Kit

G`day Kitcha

Have you ever smelt a dead skunk ?
Being that they are only native to North America .

Thanks for sharin

EB .

 

[ozza]

I am sure he has smelt lots of roadkill though!

 

[KITCHA]

Ozza it's not the red beard or red devil that used to be famous over in S.A it's the original skunk #1 that smells so strong your eyes water when you trim it and it sounds cliche but the smell will penetrate brick walls, glass jars, turkey bags etc. Elmer never been over there they don't allow convicts there these days haha so maybe I'm not qualified to say its RKS but if it isn't id be surprised. Give me a minute to get some pics and more detail. The clone was smuggled back in the late 80's direct from the guys at Sensi Seeds i know that for sure.

 

[ozza]

Skunks animals range from Canada to South America and there are also Stink Badgers in that are related to skunks and get called skunks in Indonesia and Philippines.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skunk

 

[ozza]

Cool Kitcha. Yeah I have known it is round, but every time someone comes up with a cut for me it is red beard or red devil as I think it is also called. Yeah I'm looking for the can't hide it if you tried too version. Please some pics would be cool.