The Roadkill Skunk Fan Club

[Guest]

I think why this cut or strain or strains are gone. Is the fact that the odor was really bad. Grower's most likely switched to another strain because of the nasty smelly odor. When someone talks about skunk. This is the plant i think about. Not all that sweet skunk or what i call Amsterdam skunk. Just my opinion.
Take care,
BG

 

[Guest]

I agree its hard enough trying to cover up females that dont stink too bad, I could only imagine how hard it would be trying to cover up the scent of RKS. I bet it penetrates through everything, and would be very hard to contain if one had 10+ females in full bud.

 

[zamalito]

Motaco your description reminds me much of the oklahoma skunk I used to grow. Nearly hairless with lots of pink/purple hairs. It was a piney skunk, right? Seeds from those 1/4 lb bags became the first cutting that I kept for multiple years. If it's the same thing you're talking about it's still different from what I call hairless skunk and actually much stronger herb but a little less pure of a skunk smell.

The georgia skunk was almost all afghan with a deep skunk smell and an apricotty afghan hashy overtone but still skunky.

Then there's the hairless skunk which was at least 80% sativa. The leaves looked like colombians and the buds looked like colombians or sao paulo green. This was the least potent of the three also had the least resin but had the most sativa buzz and the most pure resin.

Bc, if there's anything bsc can do to help you let me know. As soon as I can spare some I'm going to send you some manga rosa. Its not that close to a roadkill skunk. Its has a kind of motor oil smell and IMO it's what gives white widow its sour skunk quality. The thing about the manga rosa is it will take the sweetness out of just about anything in a cross. We're getting pretty close with manga rosa hybrids. White shark x manga rosa and ubc chemo x manga rosa are getting pretty close and I believe in the f2 or f3 I'm going to find the odor. The brazilian green is so close in buzz and look to the hairless skunk I'd like to get those traits along with the roadkill skunk trait. I'd also like to one day return th htc sunshine to brazil and grow out a thousand plants to make selections and do an open pollination of the best 50-100.

 

[ShroomDr]

RKS is the only reason i started smoking.

I love the smell.

I use to think, (and i am still not totally convinced its not) that the smell is stronger in my memory. Like Christmas when your 7 is better than when you 17.

I use to tell my friends, the only way i would smoke is if they had some roadkill. Then i turned into a burnout, but ive still always been on the lookout.

Im smoking some Skunk#1 right now, but its definitely sweet, and not dead and piney.


No one commented on the Nirvana Hindu Kush recommendation made earlier. Perhaps it would be easier to find in this pheno, because of Nirvana's lack of uniformity. Maybe its easier to find because its a recessive gene. I know most experienced growers try to steer clear of Nirvana, but maybe in this case, They should be looking there.

ESPEICALLY if you think the RKS was breed out, in favor of the sweet skunk (possibly because the Sweet Skunk was a higher yielder).

If you do feel this, wouldnt Nirvana's (f2's) be a good place to look to find the older genes?

 

[zamalito]

One thing I believe we should look into is how growing conditions contribute to rks. Has anyone here seen an rks bud grown under artificial light? I definitely have noticed buds that come from a higher temperature room are more skunky also. Perhaps heat plays a role. Lastly I believe that rks smell isn't produced in glandular trichomes. Like I said in my precious post the plants I've seen that had the most pure of an rks smell were the least resinous of the skunks. I've made hash with skunky herb but never has it made skunky hash. I've made skunk-ish hash but never skuky hash. This is the whole reason why I'm searching for what I consider to be rks is that its a way to impart odor and flavor without adding resin. This allows you to breed a sativa chemotype with very pure resin without a more mild flavor. This is also why hairless skunk is desirable because with less resin hairs make the bud more harsh and impart an unpleasant flavor though it can be mostly cured out it's still there.

I also believe that the majority of skunkiness doesn't come from the resin glands

 

[zamalito]

Also I get the impression texas shoreline isn't a strain so much as good quality herb from the shoreline.

 

[Guest]

If you really want it back i suggest this.

Find a pre 89 skunk seed line. Use multiple males. Cross to the Cheese cut, make F2s select down to taste, make the backcross and line breed a few gens. Well thats what i would do if i wanted it that much

The terpenoids of the Cheese are very close when grown outdoors over a full season, not exactly but a great place to start. It needs a good cure to fix the taste. But the Cheese is not Sweet Skunk. It contains the chemical fueld terpenoids of RKS. But, not if it is grown indoors and in hydro, then its different again.

After 1989 the Seedbank in Amsterdam made a new Skunk line, proberly did not want to buy in anymore from the Skunkman and cut him out of 'the deal'. Which apeared to be the way Nevile went about stuff at that time. They 'remade skunk' and 'improved it'..according to a thread on CW where Shanti confirmed this. They did this as they wanted a bigger, fatter shorter fowering skunk...alledgedly as thats what the customer wanted. They crossed Skunk '1 with a Afghani. No backcross.

So if you want the RKS back the chemical and fuel type terpenoids still exist in the Cheese clone, and the pre 90 Skunk x Afghani line version of Skunk '1. As SamS has said most of the 'Skunk' out there is not his. But for anyone who was around at the time in Holland they would remember those first Skunk shipments just as fondly as you do your RKS, they are different versions of the same thing, pre 1990 Sunk as it should be, wasnt sweet then..

Just another comment relating to BB Cheese line, its a bit of a shame that he just crossed that early origional Skunk to repeat the same mistake as the past. But it just goes to show you how good that early Skunk line was, and why it never needed 'improving'. Remember the Cheese clone, consider elite by most was NOT a selected female cut at all, it just happened to be the only female one that survived.

Skunk just got hacked to peices as always. Still happening now.

Bests, Flores

 

[motaco]

beancounter I understand exactly what you are saying about the TFD. most of it is mediocre. there are two main phenos. the gold and the flower pheno. but aside from that are numerous... too many to count phenos. But you would do exactly what you said, you'd end up with pounds and pounds of weed you weren't crazy about while breeding.

But unfortunately that is the reality of breeding. As I'm sure you know you can't just plant ten beans and select the best 3. to breed something out like a particular smell would take literally thousands of plants and several years. I don't really know that it could be done on a small scale. I mean it could, but would take an unbelievable amount of luck to happen upon the right mom and pop. But after having grown alot of skunks I think its possible.

Take a look at Lou. He's growing sensi's skunk and still gets a ton of variation. Supposedly TFD's pure is the original lineup as it was released the first time. Based on the variability of it I'd say they are probably right. You can breed TFD pure anywhere you want it.

On the other hand about the daywrecker s1's. Hold your hopes high because I had a similiar thing and came out with two phenos, and both held the daywrecker smell almost 100% in tact. one pheno was a lil less musty. The only reason I suggested afghani #1 for a papa is that its got that acrid stinky animal smell that I think can be twisted to what you want. (found that same smell in an extreme sativa pheno of the pure) I never had the afghan dream or the petrolia, but while deep chunk is great weed it doesn't have much of that animal skunk smell to it.

Thats what I was asking about the smell. I've had several incredibly pungent musty skunky bags before. But I was asking if it was the one particular strain (that hairless skunk, never had it but heard legends since I started smoking)

If your just looking for the skunk rank you can find it. but I didn't want to reccomend just any skunky parents if it was one strain you were looking for. Like if someone was looking for that old strain that was grey, and smelled like lemons, mint, and gasoline and didn't know what they were looking for was Train wreck. you wouldn't want to reccomend just any pungent lemon weed if they were looking for the one particular strain. like TW.

and you won't BS your way out of a trainwreck bag. if it ain't TW the person will know it the second he smells its that he grew the wrong strain and has to keep looking. TW has a very distinct smell and its one strain to find. thats what I was asking about the RKS. I didn't want to reccomend the wrong stuff.

 

[Guest423]

well if its not one strain than are your just looking for stinky weed? I don't understand and I did read the thread thats why I'm asking.

is it a skunk your looking for? was it ever a skunk? was it ever one common strain?

if your searching for it maybe it would be good to articulate what IT is instead of just "RKS stinky weed like in the 80s". because that won't get your anywhere. there is lots of stinky weed and lots of stinky weed from the 80s.

it just isn't stinky weed, alot of weed is stinky, IT SMELLS EXACTLY LIKE A SKUNK SPRAYED OR A SKUNK THAT GOT RAN OVER BY A CAR, thats why we call it RoadKill Skunk.

i've grown 20 different strains that were stinky....but not stinky like you had a skunk in your pocket, in your car, or in your house.....alot of people here don't even know what a real live skunk smells like so how can they say their weed has or has not smelled like a skunk? u can easily tell by someones post if they do in fact no what they are talking about.

there is no strain called RKS that i'm aware of, it's just a nickname we gave it so people knew what we were talking about....if we did know exactly what it was and where to get it there wouldn't even be this thread...instead there would be mad grow threads and smoke reports on it.

obviously there are different versions of RKS so it isn't 1 strain, but what they do have in common is IT SMELLS LIKE A SKUNK THAT SPRAYED OR GOT RAN OVER BY A CAR....thats why we call it RKS....there's no mistaken stinky weed to a full blown skunk smell.


p.s....what do you mean take my own advice and read the thread? i started the thread i'm pretty sure i've read every post....read what i wrote in my previous posts and it's easily explained what we are looking for.

 

[Guest]

particular smell would take literally thousands of plants and several years

It always takes lots of plants, but Terpenoids/Smells are much easier to select for than potentcy.

Peace, flores

 

[motaco]

yeah but I'm sure everyone is worried about potency too

 

[Guest]

it just isn't stinky weed, alot of weed is stinky, IT SMELLS EXACTLY LIKE A SKUNK SPRAYED OR A SKUNK THAT GOT RAN OVER BY A CAR, thats why we call it RoadKill Skunk.

i've grown 20 different strains that were stinky....but not stinky like you had a skunk in your pocket, in your car, or in your house.....alot of people here don't even know what a real live skunk smells like so how can they say their weed has or has not smelled like a skunk? u can easily tell by someones post if they do in fact no what they are talking about.

And we are off again, you have told us a million times what it means to you thanks for repeating it. I was tryin gto help you get it back, lol, as you appear to miss it. Do you have any clue about breeding or how you would go about actually getting what you want? or you just going to wait for someone to sell it to you?

Bests, be lucky
Flowers

 

[Guest]

yeah but I'm sure everyone is worried about potency too

Your all reffering to a taste. Cannabis cup winning strains like the Cheese clone are proven in potentcy, and taste, hence why it may be a good place to start. bwtfwik..

Peace, HHF

 

[Guest423]

If you really want it back i suggest this.

Find a pre 89 skunk seed line. Use multiple males. Cross to the Cheese cut, make F2s select down to taste, make the backcross and line breed a few gens. Well thats what i would do if i wanted it that much

great advice, thats basically what i want to do except for using the mass superskunk clone instead of the cheese.

i've heard alot of reports that mass superskunk has the RKS odor we are looking for....i'm pretty sure i got the skunk line and alot of beans to pop to find some good skunky males.....only problem is the mass superskunk clone is a tough one to get....atleast for me....so far.

 

[GoodbyeBlueSky]

i've heard alot of reports that mass superskunk has the RKS odor we are looking for....

PM Rez... he's got the MSS clone and could tell you about the smell/taste...

although if the rumors of it being from Sensi's SS stock are true, than i can say with certainty that it is sweet skunk...

 

[Guest423]

And we are off again, you have told us a million times what it means to you thanks for repeating it. I was tryin gto help you get it back, lol, as you appear to miss it. Do you have any clue about breeding or how you would go about actually getting what you want? or you just going to wait for someone to sell it to you?

Bests, be lucky
Flowers

exactly...it's been told a million times, so why do people still ask and wonder what we are looking for? why do we have to repeat it?

yes i have a clue about breeding and how i'd go about getting what i want....seriously do you guys even read threads or just pop in and play off the last couple posts?

 

[Guest423]

thanks for stopping by alexander and you bring up a great point and alot of the reason i'm doing this.


i'll scrap everything i got going (except for a couple lol) and go all skunky skunk to try and bring it back if i get lead in the right direction....i just spent 4 months growing skunks and crossing skunks every which way and i'm willing to do it again until we are on to something solid. for anybody reading this i think mass superskunk is a great start for making a version on RKS.

peace

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[zamalito]

I think this is the first time I've ever disagreed with you hhf. I get what you're saying about it being harder to detect potency in males and that males show their odors more easily than their potency. I think that though skunkiness isn't one of them certain smells can get insanely dificult to breed for. There's just so many variables when it comes to odors. Rose breeders are fanatical to the point of genius when it comes to odors and cannabis is even more complex.

I think you're right though about the making selections outdoors for a couple generations to start breeding for a rks that's true breeding indoors. I've never grown hill temple skunk. There's quite a few good starting points for breeding a rks. I'm not certain if inbreeding an ibl is the best way to go or working with f2's from well selected f1's from something like a htc skunk x cheese cut(I've never grown either so I can't say). Those f2 and f3 generations can really be amazing and are a great source of creativity. Hell even white shark f2's could hold a lot of potential for breeding a rks.

 

[Guest]

i've heard alot of reports that mass superskunk has the RKS odor we are looking for

Its just the terpenoid profile your looking for which gives the more chemical and fuel side. Dont get too hung up on trying to find exactly the same smell, the point is that this type of terpenoid profile contains the scents and smells your looking for, not the sweet lines. You will find what your looking for in the F2 and on generations if you sprout enough seeds i suspect. So which PROVEN clone line you use as the mother isnt that critical, as long as its one that is proven. Much more important to me would be to make sure i had a pre 90 Skunk for the male side. Males are it, females are easy.

Peace, Flores

 

[Guest423]

we aren't finding any....thats why this thread is important....we need to gather as much info as possible.

there are plenty of strains that are kinda "skunky" but somewhere out there is a hidden ingredient that seperates skunky from full out smells like a skunk just sprayed or got hit by a car......it could be a couple different phenos from different genetics, it could be the location it's grown, they could all have that certain parent lineage that is the cause of the rks odor coming out, it could be skunk#2, no one is forsure at this point.

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