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The Roadkill Skunk Fan Club

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TPFTFW

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ozza

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G`day HMK

It would seem that this elusive SK you guys are chasing was a cordinated operation .
That for one reason or another was shut down .

Who has the brains , balls and network to pull such an op ?

Organised crime . Be it Mafia of diff ethnicity or bikers .
To distribute a product as far and wide as RKS was you need networking .

The network decided it was no longer a good margin and discontinued ...


Thanks for sharin

EB .

Mafia fuck I like that idea mate. Bikers would fit Australia. Although the Mafia is big ere too.
 

Hashmasta-Kut

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G`day HMK

It would seem that this elusive SK you guys are chasing was a cordinated operation .
That for one reason or another was shut down .

Who has the brains , balls and network to pull such an op ?

Organised crime . Be it Mafia of diff ethnicity or bikers .
To distribute a product as far and wide as RKS was you need networking .

The network decided it was no longer a good margin and discontinued ...


Thanks for sharin

EB .

Nice fantasy bro, but not at all possible. Nobody came and stealthily made our cutting lose vigor and flavor. It just happened from 20 years of overcloning, no back breeding for vigor, etc. There was no distribution from a network, once we had the cutting we never had need for re-supply...
 

Lester Beans

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Nah I don't buy that, the skunk seeds were some of the only seeds available, so that's what growers grew. And they traveled just like herbs do today. Mine came from seeds acquired in Toronto and the gentleman from Toronto acquired them from California. That's as much info as I could find. Nowhere have I ever heard it was bikers or mob related.
 
OMCs have been moving anything that involves untraceable income since they came back from the wars... I wouldn't call it a fantasy per se, although there are plenty of other explanations that are just as, if not more, plausible
 

Hashmasta-Kut

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Its fantastical and also out of line with the facts, to say some cartel or mafia type identity wiped out roadkill, when many people got seeds or clones and had their own copy. His hypothesis is pure fantasy.
 

ozza

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Nice fantasy bro, but not at all possible. Nobody came and stealthily made our cutting lose vigor and flavor. It just happened from 20 years of overcloning, no back breeding for vigor, etc. There was no distribution from a network, once we had the cutting we never had need for re-supply...

Originally you got the cutting from somewhere. What Elmer is saying if it truely is the same cut, that I am chasing from Oz or Brevla from Germany or Fred from Flintstone ville is chasing, it must have hard a very large, good distrubution network. Elmer might watch out though the crazies might think he is trying to promote the idea that Sam had something to do with the DEA and it was the DEA that spread it far and wide.:biggrin::biggrin:
 

ozza

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Its fantastical and also out of line with the facts, to say some cartel or mafia type identity wiped out roadkill, when many people got seeds or clones and had their own copy. His hypothesis is pure fantasy.

So the DEA and authorities busting everyone with the cut would fit that story. It is fantastical and I like it.:biggrin::dance013:
 

Elmer Bud

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Nice fantasy bro, but not at all possible. Nobody came and stealthily made our cutting lose vigor and flavor. It just happened from 20 years of overcloning, no back breeding for vigor, etc. There was no distribution from a network, once we had the cutting we never had need for re-supply...


G `day HMK

No fantasy bro .
Educated guess ...

Yes you might have had the magical cut . But every Tom / Dick / Harry was consuming the stuff and not just from your cut . Of course .


I`m not buying your story of the declined cutting . I think that is a fantasy . So we are square ? No .
Open up your mind a little .

RKS was every where not just in the HMK hood .

Thanks for sharin

EB .
 

badonkadank

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This is one thing that I can't get my head round,is how a strain was so widely spread & avalible in the US,Canada,Mexico,Europe,UK & God knows where else & it just "poof" disappeared, I don't beleave it for a second,or may be its just me & my memory's just fucked.
 

Hashmasta-Kut

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I`m not buying your story of the declined cutting . I think that is a fantasy . So we are square ? No .
Open up your mind a little .



EB .

Dude, its basic breeding, not fantasy, go look it up if you are ignorant about it. You need to breed back to the parent stock, or original seed stock, to renew vigor. Most things cant take straight cloning for 20 years or more.
 

oti$

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I don't agree with the above statement. Chem d, 91, 4, sis, og kush, urkel and the list goes on, all 20+ years old. I don't believe in genetic drift as many describe clones changing or losing vigor over time. They are genetically the same. They haven't been bit by a radio active spider mite changing their DNA. I believe "genetic drift" Is a result of poorly maintained mothers which produce unhealthy clones that grow in to shitty representations of the genetically identical plant. I've had an experienced grower tell me his method for renewing vigor to a clone only that isn't producing as it once did: he would try to get the mom as healthy as possible, take a cutting from New growth, get that as healthy as possible and repeat the process a couple times until he has a healthy mother that produces healthy clones that grow into healthy plants. I too experienced the super stanky skunk decades ago. I haven't smelled that unmistakable smell(coming from a bag of weed) in at least 20 years. I really believe that it was gradually dropped by growers for fear of being busted or being busted for the stench as carbon filters are relatively recent for grows. Also the terp profile grew less favorable and New strains such as blueberries and bubble gums gained popularity. I do imagine that someone, somewhere may still have it or seeds of it. I also, having smoked it myself, find it hard to believe that it is the end all be all. I used to get unbelievably, psychadelically, intensely high from schwag. After taking a couple years away from herb due to legal issues, I had a couple similar experiences when I started again. It was strong and that smell would sell bags guaranteed regardless of potency or bag appeal. I just think nostalgia, as well as the inability to actually do a legit side by side comparison of potency is really clouding the reality of what the strain really was/is like. I'd like to get my hands on some to know for sure though... I hope one of you guys finds it. Its definitely legendary:D
 

Hashmasta-Kut

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I don't agree with the above statement. Chem d, 91, 4, sis, og kush, urkel and the list goes on, all 20+ years old. I don't believe in genetic drift as many describe clones changing or losing vigor over time. They are genetically the same. They haven't been bit by a radio active spider mite changing their DNA. I believe "genetic drift" Is a result of poorly maintained mothers which produce unhealthy clones that grow in to shitty representations of the genetically identical plant. I've had an experienced grower tell me his method for renewing vigor to a clone only that isn't producing as it once did: he would try to get the mom as healthy as possible, take a cutting from New growth, get that as healthy as possible and repeat the process a couple times until he has a healthy mother that produces healthy clones that grow into healthy plants. I too experienced the super stanky skunk decades ago. I haven't smelled that unmistakable smell(coming from a bag of weed) in at least 20 years. I really believe that it was gradually dropped by growers for fear of being busted or being busted for the stench as carbon filters are relatively recent for grows. Also the terp profile grew less favorable and New strains such as blueberries and bubble gums gained popularity.


First of all, yes, not all plant hybrids suffer from loss of vigor. I have a 92 clone of sweet skunk which seems perfect still. It is basic breeding though, Sam the Skunkman wrote an article in the 70's that i have a copy of which goes into the basics of breeding, and describes hybrid vigor, how its a good thing, and how you can lose it. I also agree that poor mothering and cloning practices could be to blame, but losing vigor is at least as equally likely through regular genetic diversion over time.

And yes, many growers did drop it due to its stink. As to the second part, when we saw blueberry and bubblegum come around, we snickered. Nobody who grew skunkweed preferred blueberry or bubblegum or big bud or northern lights, no way in hell.

It may be hybrid vigor or other bad cloning practices, but the fact remains we got a cutting in 1980, and by 2003, it was dropped, mainly due to vigor issues from whatever reason, and BHO coming out, making many strains in pure extract form actually rather strong.
 

Lester Beans

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Ok let me spell this out again.

1- this was a strain not a cut. Seeds were available. And they traveled by bags of seeded bud or growers passing them along.

2- it smelled like a skunk's defensive spray. Not piss, rotting meat, body odor, etc.

3- it disappeared because it fucking stunk and people went to jail. Remember shit hasn't always been legal. How many of you kids who have never known illegal would be growing today if the penalty was five years behind bars? I bet not nearly as many. It is still like that where I live today.
So that being said, when growers got their hands on other seeds or clones that compared potency wise, the RKS was ditched. I'm sorry you folks can't understand the strength of the smell, but that's how it was. Was zero way to control it. I don't think a rotting body could compete to the loudness of the plant.

4- RKS is a name given to Skunk #1, the SK1 that was SamS original before SamS bred the skunk out in favor for the sweeter skunks of which he liked the flavor and effect better. This name RKS is only 10-15 years old as far as I know. Back then it was called Skunk #1. RKS is a description of the smell. When driving by a dead skunk it smells like skunk defensive spray and how.

Vibes
 

Hashmasta-Kut

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Ok, lol, let me spell it out again for you too :)

Sure it was a strain, but that doesn't take anything away from the fact we got, as i recall 13 identical cuttings of one variety from california, smuggled up via semitrailer, which was called just skunkweed, not RKS, or skunk #1 was told to us, in 1980, and it was our skunk up here in the Vancouver lower mainland. We cloned that beauty for 20 years, and eventually she ran out of steam. And yes it was the most penetrating skunky smell, more penetrating than any other weed we ever saw before or after. My buddy had a few buds double or triple ziplocked in his basement room in around 1988, and his dad gave him royal shit for smoking it in the house, and would never believe he hadnt. My friends never went to jail or stopped growing it because it stunk bad. We ran the gamut for 2 decades, and it petered out. That didnt happen everywhere of course, but we had great skunk for two decades, and we kept it as a clone from the original the whole time.
 

Lester Beans

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I am not disputing you had skunk, you are lucky to have experienced the real deal. My post was directed at the common misunderstandings that are posted in this thread. If you had the real deal, then you don't need to read my post because you already know all that :respect:
 

bigherb

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First of all, yes, not all plant hybrids suffer from loss of vigor. I have a 92 clone of sweet skunk which seems perfect still. It is basic breeding though, Sam the Skunkman wrote an article in the 70's that i have a copy of which goes into the basics of breeding, and describes hybrid vigor, how its a good thing, and how you can lose it. I also agree that poor mothering and cloning practices could be to blame, but losing vigor is at least as equally likely through regular genetic diversion over time.

And yes, many growers did drop it due to its stink. As to the second part, when we saw blueberry and bubblegum come around, we snickered. Nobody who grew skunkweed preferred blueberry or bubblegum or big bud or northern lights, no way in hell.

It may be hybrid vigor or other bad cloning practices, but the fact remains we got a cutting in 1980, and by 2003, it was dropped, mainly due to vigor issues from whatever reason, and BHO coming out, making many strains in pure extract form actually rather strong.

Sams wrote an article in the 70's . Id love to read it

1luvbigherb
 

Hashmasta-Kut

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bigherb, I sent you a private message..

I am not disputing you had skunk, you are lucky to have experienced the real deal. My post was directed at the common misunderstandings that are posted in this thread. If you had the real deal, then you don't need to read my post because you already know all that :respect:



Farout and groovy then bro!

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