Well proudly walk alone and stop parroting dumb ass rumors then. Its as simple as that, don't ruin the fucking thread.
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Well proudly walk alone and stop parroting dumb ass rumors then. Its as simple as that, don't ruin the fucking thread.
TelephoneGame
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And you continue on licking boot. If you have the patience it's so very easy to ignore someone's posts, watch I will show you how and ignore yours from this point on.
eastcoastjoe
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I'm pretty sure the EXPERTS here will still find a way to argue with this, I guess GENETIC DRIFT only happens in cannabis and no other cultivars on earth hehe. I doubt most of the guys claiming genetic drift have a working concept of the term. A quick google search and a little common sense would surely go a long way but I'm not even gonna entertain the argument that comes from the mentally challenged
I tried to explain that I have clones between 15-30 yrs old but it seems like it goes over people's heads. I got one for them, comfrey, bocking 14 in specific. Over 70 years old and still kicking, no genetic drift hahaha.
I tried to explain that I have clones between 15-30 yrs old but it seems like it goes over people's heads. I got one for them, comfrey, bocking 14 in specific. Over 70 years old and still kicking, no genetic drift hahaha.
I believe ya Joe. I have 12 year old cuts and they perform the same as they always have. Root and are just as vigorous if not better then anything from seed as well.
Don’t get me going on genetic drift. Has nothing to do with asexual reproduction of existing cultivars. There may be issues with monoculture but that’s a different topic.
Just because some things hold vigor etc. well, doesnt mean everything will. I have a 20 year old cut thats great too. I know the ogkush guys claim something happened to their cut early on, gives it a leaf curl. Maybe disease, who knows, it stuck with the clone, nobody managed to grow away from it. Our skunk had a leaf curl thing develop too, but in this case, if its related, it seemed to have a detrimental effect, and the ogkush guys said the same, but that it didnt effect the potency or flavor, i think it was vigor and maybe rooting they thought it affected. Anyway, just because some things stay true for decades is absolutely no proof that everything will.
I have no proof that our clone got fucked up from anything in particular, but it did get weak in a few ways, and I do recall one person tried very hard to grow away from it, with the many cuttings from new growth thing, but it didnt give it what it needed. Maybe a bit.
I have no proof that our clone got fucked up from anything in particular, but it did get weak in a few ways, and I do recall one person tried very hard to grow away from it, with the many cuttings from new growth thing, but it didnt give it what it needed. Maybe a bit.
I don't know about genetic drift but viruses and infections are for real.
Metrop makes a product called amino root and amino bloom.
They claim it repairs dna.
All I can say is my Chem D no longer has mosiac traits.
Maybe worth a pop on these old, 20 Year plus clones or declining vigour or smell.
TelephoneGame
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I bet that's what happened to your clone HMK, disease not loss of vigor, makes the most sense.
was told 2 things can help bring back that vigor.. 1 is supposedly just placing outside and taking a bunch of cuts off a healthy plant.. and keeping best ones..
and the other thing was tissue culture which is meticulous ... but supposedly works for most everything. vigor.. disease.. they say even broads and russet mites and the tiny tinys
Ok I just popped 30 of my old Skunk #1 seeds. Going to find the best females then look through the Flying Dutchman and Seedsman Skunk #1 seeds for some nice males. Go from there and see if I can't find some stinkers down the line. I doubt it but I don't currently have any skunks going so it will be fun anyway. These seeds were purchased in Toronto in the mid 90's and are fem of the f2's made in '04. We shall see. Here is one of these that was popped in '09
flying Dutchmen had all sweat skunks in the packs I tried finding a stinky one in lol. no roadkill in those.
They will all be sweet skunks, going to have to go DEEP in the line to try to find the stank. Be some good smoking along the way! If people don't think Skunk 1 is potent, you havnt found the right one!
StankyBeamer
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Just got these from garlic fam farms, they're f3's of the cross listed, I was told by the breeder the road kill pheno is relatively stabilized and shows up in at least one or two phenos per ten pack.
Their rks cut tested at 29.9% thc and 3.9% terpenes, mostly beta-carophylene and myrcene with a little limonene. Such amazing flowers.
Sounds yummy!
StankyBeamer
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They were deliciously repulsive in flavor. Smelled like sulfur, had kind of a chemmy taste but more so towards the skunk carcass side of the chem profile with a baby puke undertone.
I just saw the report, someone shared it with me.
You know it just occurred to me something interesting possibly. I was reading the terps present, and thought, its probably not a super high% of terps that gave the old roadkill its incredible penetrating reek, it is much more likely to be some terpene that has similar properties to mercaptans; in that it they are used in propane to allow easy detection of leaks, as its incredibly stinky even in ppbs people can detect it easily. So I am proposing that some certain terpene that was present in the old skunk wouldnt even have to be present in huge amounts, and the reek would still be overpowering and carry for many yards, if it was an incredibly odiferous substance.
You know it just occurred to me something interesting possibly. I was reading the terps present, and thought, its probably not a super high% of terps that gave the old roadkill its incredible penetrating reek, it is much more likely to be some terpene that has similar properties to mercaptans; in that it they are used in propane to allow easy detection of leaks, as its incredibly stinky even in ppbs people can detect it easily. So I am proposing that some certain terpene that was present in the old skunk wouldnt even have to be present in huge amounts, and the reek would still be overpowering and carry for many yards, if it was an incredibly odiferous substance.
StankyBeamer
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I forget what the family of compounds is called, but I was told by a very knowledgeable person that it was proven that the real road kill clone had a compound that wasn't a Terpenoid or terpene at all, and could not be replicated through breeding, his supporting evidence being a massive open pollenation with the clone to try to hone in on the right pallet. I dont think it can't be passed on geneticslly, because it had to have been passed those traits from somewhere. The guy who runs garlic fam farms went through hundreds of seeds of the roadkill to find a close enough pallet for breeding with. I think it can be done, it will just take a lot of selection and pheno hunting, and a lot of male testing
Ahh, thats kind of what i was thinking, is that its not a terpene being tested for at the very least. Well my f2 skunk reversal project should start soon, and I imagine this elusive compound will be present in some phenos.
I recall Chimera saying the same thing but not so clearly, that the RKS had something unique in it.
I recall Chimera saying the same thing but not so clearly, that the RKS had something unique in it.
StankyBeamer
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Well garlic fam farms just got approval for a commercial medical marijuana license for the normal 72 plant grow, but because it's a license from the township, it guarantees them a license when recreational gets voted in in November in michigan, giving them a much higher plant count to work with, and they've invited me to work with them on selections, testing, and future breeding projects, so I'll be working to help them bring rks back to the masses.
A little anecdote on the pungency factor of this cut: my boss got pulled over by Wayne County sherif deputies and searched because they said they could smell a half ounce from inside their squad car with the windows rolled up going 45mph next to them. They immediately demanded to search the vehicle on suspicion of them carrying over the legal limit (15 ounces) and all they had was a half ounce triple bagged in a brand new mason jar. In a safe in the trunk.
A little anecdote on the pungency factor of this cut: my boss got pulled over by Wayne County sherif deputies and searched because they said they could smell a half ounce from inside their squad car with the windows rolled up going 45mph next to them. They immediately demanded to search the vehicle on suspicion of them carrying over the legal limit (15 ounces) and all they had was a half ounce triple bagged in a brand new mason jar. In a safe in the trunk.
Pigs in Michigan lying ????? Wow, say it ain't so ....... lol
Bet it pissed them off to get nada. But the rest of us pay for their salaries so they can circle jerk and get paid for it.
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