StankyBeamer
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You need to go back through and re read that homie, I said Sam created skunk #1, I don't think skunk #1 is the mythic rks. That's not dissing in any way. Dont try to stir up shit for no reason bro, I wasn't.
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The Roadkill Skunk Fan Club
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StankyBeamer
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Thank you, both of you. I know I'm not an expert, not even close, but everyone on ic lately seems to wanna misconstrue my words to either make me look like an ignorant know-it-all or an asshole. I'm neither, just an amateur grower with an interest in genetics. Nowhere fucking near knowing even half the story on everything lol, I try to learn every day
Mythic?
And you still dont, not at all? after everything i shared with you? its a pretty good chance as i pointed out that it was Sams' baby to begin with.
StankyBeamer
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Elusive is a better word than mythic. But no, I don't think Sam created the road kill terp profile. He created the genotype that is skunk #1. But the terps came from somewhere long before Sam touched a marijuana plant. I think the ghani he used was the source of the sulfur carcass terps, and that there were probably more than one specific clone or strain going around in that era. Sams might very well have the rks pheno in its genotype.
TelephoneGame
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I know right, all the stuff I read was crazy, some very reputable breeders called him a spook. I read he is the only guy allowed to import/export cannabis seeds in the states and then his company is all wrapped up in big pharma now. I don't know what to make of it, but more strange stories surrounding that guy.
In 1980 I moved to Maine from Virginia. I stopped and stayed with friends in Jamestown Rhode Island where I was given some seeds. This strain had been grown locally for several years. The guy who gave me the seeds said he knew the guy who brought them back from Afghanistan. So maybe 1976,77 was when they were originally grown. I know this strain was being grown by a large group of folks in Rhode Island and Mass and then I took it to Maine, where it thrived. It smelled like freshly killed skunk. It was shockingly smelly. You could smell it from a long ways away. And it was very strong. We called it skullfuck. That shit could just shutdown a party. Afghan= rks, at least from my vantage.
Thats cool, but I guess you would agree that you are basing your belief on assumption, as you weren't there. Neither was I, but I am not going to assume either way, like i said, i hold the view that it is very likely, but have no proof either way, so wont assume to know. If you haven't caught Sam the Skunkman talking on hash church 52, maybe check it out, pretty interesting. He says there, it stunk like crazy, his initial skunk, and he had it in around 76-78, then spent the next ten years breeding for a more cerebral high, and less skunky stink.
StankyBeamer
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Yeah I'm only 24. Started smoking around 2002, so I'm just going off what I read and logic and what's documented. That's why I say I believe, because it's my opinion. I just think there's no way one person could be responsible for an entire Terpenoid profile, the afghani people bred those lines for thousands of years in the kandahar valley. Sam just knows what he's doing, is a great breeder, and created a solid stable f1 line. All my research on male selection comes from Sam and Neville's work and the info they were nice enough to make public via the internet. That's why I said I'm not dissing sam, have the utmost respect for him, he literally started the hybrid game that were all balls deep in currently.
I see, thats where we differ. I only believe stuff i know for sure. Otherwise its just something i know about, that i cant believe, as its still unknown. Since our cutting of skunk came from Califorinia, in 1980, there is a good chance its something Sam had a hand in, as he was there, and was doing the work on skunk at that time. As i said, i dont believe its his work, but there is a good chance of it for sure.
StankyBeamer
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Part of why I have the theory that I do is because Shantibaba's old male was an acrid sulfur skunky afghan, that he lost and ended up with the sweet hashy afghans that are so common today. All the old schoolers were using ghani pollen to make loud ass skunk gear, I think there's a commonality there
You are saying other skunks may have arisen as well. Sure, and even of course but that doesnt discount that sam the skunkman made a version, and quite possibly the legendary one we all knew and loved.
Didn't Sam, himself, say that there was zero Afghan in SK#1?
MSS = SK#1 x Afghan... if I recall correctly.
Shit... I could be wrong in my assumptions but I think I read Sams words correctly.
OneStonedPony
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where'd you read that?
dead skunk is an unmistakeable odor.
uk cheese smells like toe jam and cheddar.
not like a rotting skunk carcass.
I think @headyy blunts is right. I like cheese a lot, I grow GH's from fem seed every year, to me it's more like old cheese with some body funk, not super skunky. My Uncle Mike say RKS is super skunky, like the dead ones you see on the side of the road. Bloated, baked and nasty. I've never had a cheese, any cheese, smell that intense.
TelephoneGame
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UK Cheese is the original, I imagine the very first pheno of that hit the UK had a very loud cheese smell, so they called it skunky smelling because that's how they describe strong smelling cannabis.
That might have something to do with sams skunk, back when he first distributed his seeds in the UK, maybe because it was so loud to them and they had no idea that it actually smelt like a dead skunk because they have never smelt a skunk before that's why any strong smelling cannabis took the name skunk?
if there was a variety of cannabis around that had no ceiling or tolerance level would anybody smoke anything else? You would smoke way less weed to stay high, how is that profitable? As it is now I change varieties often to keep from building tolerance and need a few tokes to get the same effect as the skunk I recently smoked, more weed smoked more profits made, maybe that's why it horded?
That might have something to do with sams skunk, back when he first distributed his seeds in the UK, maybe because it was so loud to them and they had no idea that it actually smelt like a dead skunk because they have never smelt a skunk before that's why any strong smelling cannabis took the name skunk?
if there was a variety of cannabis around that had no ceiling or tolerance level would anybody smoke anything else? You would smoke way less weed to stay high, how is that profitable? As it is now I change varieties often to keep from building tolerance and need a few tokes to get the same effect as the skunk I recently smoked, more weed smoked more profits made, maybe that's why it horded?
Sam goes through it all in hash church 52, i encourage everyone to go listen to him on it. I cant recall right now, but i think he mentions three things used in his skunk. I do know one guy said when did you breed away from the afghani stinky, and he said pretty much right away, so he didnt disagree there was afghani in it. I know he goes through the lineage of the original haze.
you would have to get someone to make you an audio copy i guess, if you are unable to yourself.
As far as I can determine, he references taking "for example, an afghan a columbian, and a mexican," and breeding it to itself for ten years, pretty sure that is his skunk project he referred to there.
As far as I can determine, he references taking "for example, an afghan a columbian, and a mexican," and breeding it to itself for ten years, pretty sure that is his skunk project he referred to there.
This poor skunk is getting beaten harder than the dead horse, lol. Sam has given his recipe a few times and also in this thread. He stated it was his recipe for skunk #1 and also referenced he never called it RKS.
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