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The Roadkill Skunk Fan Club

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Twisted pleasur

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Sad I was really hoping on the oldest forum on the net and this and this thread. Someone somewhere would show up with something. Everyone has a theory on what skunk was and how it was and ware it may and my not have come from. And I respect that learning experiences and about the science of things. But at the end of the day nothing seems to be turning up. Such a shame.
 

OGEvilgenius

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Dunno med. Only green crack that got me was the fruity tart funk cut. Pretty sure thats the real deal. The rest is indica dom buzz imo... coffee doesnt point to crack but then again what the hell do I know lol... only once have I had a bag of real green crack. Miss that bag a lot....

Most of the cuts labeled OG, Green Crack, Purple Kush etc in BC are different than those in the States in my experience.
 

xxxstr8edgexxx

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So you got anything to read, or what the chemicals are, or just a mate said?

its a thiol compound. its not a terpine. i forget the long chemical name but i can go back and check notes. its pretty stable. the problem is there are no standards available that he can find. we were talking about identifying it in seedlings.
to calibrate you would empty a building when you opened a vile. extreme potency in terms of minimum ppb's for human olfactory detection. must be no demand. or its not enough to overcome the smell impediment to handling the shit. its apparently really extreme in its pure form.
the thiol group of compounds are responsible for the rotten garbage smell, the garlic smells, the skunk, and burnt rubber smells. it aint terps as far as i understand it, which ain't far. lol
ill look it up.
 

ozza

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Well see this is why I posted all that information pages ago. I researched all then. I thought the original post was about the actual terpenes of cannabis and there are the thiols in that list. Now the dude above me is saying they aren't terpenes?
 

Betterhaff

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Thiols are not terpenes. They are organic compounds similar to alcohols except a sulfur atom takes the place of oxygen in the hydroxyl group.

Something to ponder. With the skunks of old, which reeked to high heaven, did whatever cause this stench have any bearing on the effects or was it just there?
 

heady blunts

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hey guys i just copy and pasted from seafour's terpenes thread, great read btw. if you click the quote in my above post it should link you back to that thread.

ozza---

not trying to step on your toes! just saw the convo progressing and remembered reading about the mercaptans.

i'll admit i haven't gone through the whole thread and just tagged in a week or two ago!
 

xxxstr8edgexxx

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Correct. I am saying thiols are not terpines. A quick google search will yield some pretty good info if you're curious, but they are not the same. It's the same chemical that makes hops skunky as well.
 

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baby poop is generally related to the organic bird and bat guano super soil and or teas

when I was 100 percent organic in the 90s all my buddies used to say "dude. smells like a babies daiper " lol especially in the exhaled smoke

med-man


I currently have 3 different strains in my garden all exhibiting Strong baby poo smells but I dont use ANY guanos.

(I also wanted to comment about Med-Man trying to sell his Nutes that bring out certain terps.... but Im pretty sure he's a site sponsor so I'll play it safe and just laugh to myself)
 

xxxstr8edgexxx

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you know what brings out the terps and other smells ? genetics. lol. your ability to change terps with feed is minimal. strength and ratio of smells relative to a single cutting, i find has more to do with plant health and balanced nutrition rather than a single element blasted at the nutrient mix. \overloading with sulfur wont get you any further than adding an adequate amount in balance with other nutes. even with no organic inputs you will get really good results if done well. nutrient lines are shady at best. youre not going to get a mildly skunky strain to smell really skunky by adding the right nutrients. thats so lame that someone would market that idea to new or inexperienced gardeners. if you want to see your self. do a run with maxibloom ph and nothing else. zero additives. zilch. youll never buy any of that shit ever again. it doesnt matter what brand you feed as long as you feed them close to the right profile at proper strength and ph. its pennies on the dollar. youll see no difference than the billion bottle line up. i bet most people get better herb that way actually. try it. if you dont like powder try a one part like dyna foliage pro or flora nova bloom. people are totally nailing it in hydro that way. none of these are my favorites and im not endorsing per se as much as saying that if youre focussing on nutrients for quality you're missing the point. its all in the environment once basic nutrition is achieved. youll get better herb in a dialed room with gh than you will in an amateur set up with organics.
 

xxxstr8edgexxx

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and conversely youll get better herb in a nice set with organics than a marginal environment with gh. its all about temps humidity well timed water/feed and airflow.
 

Thcvhunter

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Oh man, every "grower" who I've seen have a shitty garden is a person who can't water to save his life. Wet/Dry cycles.... Dumping water on the soil.... Watering one small spot on the surface.... not temping their water but pH'ing it instead....
Watering should be the first thing a grower should master before upgrading Anything in their garden.



Re: increasing terps....
Sulfur is essential for terps but dumping handfuls of gypsum wont do you any good (you will favor some terps while ignoring others because you're unbalancing the elemental mix of the soil).
If people are finding that adding sulfur gives them more smells then that just means their mix/routine was deficient in the first place.

You can girow the best smelling crop in a soil mix that had done 3 runs already as long as the minerals are balanced.
She is a beautiful plant who can do beautiful things
 

Hammerhead

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Never checked the temp of my water. I can stick my finger in it and know if its to hot. That's all I care about. Here my res water rarely get's over 80f that's on a 106f day with pumps on. That might be something a hydro grower needs to check but Organic soil never for me.. .
 

KiefSweat

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the mercaptans/thiols are all sulfur based molecules. It could be reasonable that added sulfur will produce more. From what i've seen the terpinator and what not will produce more limonene and other terps but its only a few that seem to be affected and the minor ones get washed away so all the herb you use it on tastes similar.
 

blays0r

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lol

"I don't think they went out and said 'Let's develop a marijuana that smells like a skunk,'" Vandrey said.
"Rather, I think that at some point in the genealogy of marijuana growing and development, there was a strain that came along that was extremely potent and gave people a good high and happened to smell like a skunk."
marijuana that smells like skunk
 
I would like to join this club because in the mid to late 80's I was taken in at the age of 15 by a family of bikers. The old man's main source of income was growing and selling weed. What kind of weed? real original Skunkbud as we called it.
There was also another man about 50 miles north of us that had developed his own pheno of this strain, he lived in a very small north GA town called Holland, GA. It was called simply Holland Skunkbud. It's hard to remember all the exact details but there were some faintly distinct differences in smell, taste, and some said the high, but I never could tell that much differences in the high. He in the early 90's was busted by the GBI and because of the sheer amount and the fact that the bust involved a firefight with the LEO He went down for a long time I don't remember but maybe even life, mostly because of the firefight. But my point is I learned to grow growing Skunkweed. I had been smoking some good panama red and jamaican creeper, even a lil real Columbian Gold, but this skunk was a whole different ballgame compared to those imported strains. It was much more potent, and had a smell like anything I had ever saw before and I tried to learn everything I could about growing it. It smelled so strong that we kept horses for pleasure riding most thought, but the real reason was because a 15-20 plant patch when mature could be smelled from a loooong way off on the breeze, so we packed and hauled everything from a garden tiller to 10 gal. jugs of water, ferts. (almost entirely manure from horses cattle and chickens, everything far back into the hills to our patches to tend them.
One day I asked the old man where the weed he was growing came from or how he came by it, because it was so distinctly different, he told me he bought a 35mm film canister of the seeds first from another biker for $4 grand some few years back. and that it was a cross of some super good mexican, and columbian, with Afgani. So I'm sure it was at least some variation of old Skunk#1.
The last year or so with all these new strains by this name and that, that I have tried were very good some probably even more potent than Skunk, most not so much. But, that set me to thinking, first to try some of the "Skunk#1" seeds from the seed banks first and see if they really remind me of what I remember, and if not to try to rebreed the strain again using the the same lineages. maybe even try substituting another sativa strain with one of the originals just to see what would happen. I don't know a whole lot about breeding and horticulture husbandry, but I'm doing all I can to learn. The main reason being in 88 I was snitched on, busted, and did a few years for my own young stupidity. when I came out the skunk was gone the old man was passed away and I had no way of finding and getting hold of his sons to see of they had any seeds I'm sure they did, and a few years ago while down there I ran up on a friend who said he could get the old skunk bud. It was expensive as it always was, but sure enough, to my best recollections it was. It has been along time but once a person has grown hundreds of plants of the same strain over almost 4 seasons you pretty well know it when you see it, smell it, taste, and experience it
So please count me in on this one, I'd love to find a source for REAL Skunk seeds. And I am on the hunt now and or an effort to try and rebreed it for my own use, and to give a little to a few close friends once in a while. I don't sell weed. God gave it to us He never charged us anything, so I give it to others when I can. Have a good 'un. Wolf :tiphat:
 

blays0r

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I would like to join this club because in the mid to late 80's I was taken in at the age of 15 by a family of bikers. The old man's main source of income was growing and selling weed. What kind of weed? real original Skunkbud as we called it.
There was also another man about 50 miles north of us that had developed his own pheno of this strain, he lived in a very small north GA town called Holland, GA. It was called simply Holland Skunkbud. It's hard to remember all the exact details but there were some faintly distinct differences in smell, taste, and some said the high, but I never could tell that much differences in the high. He in the early 90's was busted by the GBI and because of the sheer amount and the fact that the bust involved a firefight with the LEO He went down for a long time I don't remember but maybe even life, mostly because of the firefight. But my point is I learned to grow growing Skunkweed. I had been smoking some good panama red and jamaican creeper, even a lil real Columbian Gold, but this skunk was a whole different ballgame compared to those imported strains. It was much more potent, and had a smell like anything I had ever saw before and I tried to learn everything I could about growing it. It smelled so strong that we kept horses for pleasure riding most thought, but the real reason was because a 15-20 plant patch when mature could be smelled from a loooong way off on the breeze, so we packed and hauled everything from a garden tiller to 10 gal. jugs of water, ferts. (almost entirely manure from horses cattle and chickens, everything far back into the hills to our patches to tend them.
One day I asked the old man where the weed he was growing came from or how he came by it, because it was so distinctly different, he told me he bought a 35mm film canister of the seeds first from another biker for $4 grand some few years back. and that it was a cross of some super good mexican, and columbian, with Afgani. So I'm sure it was at least some variation of old Skunk#1.
The last year or so with all these new strains by this name and that, that I have tried were very good some probably even more potent than Skunk, most not so much. But, that set me to thinking, first to try some of the "Skunk#1" seeds from the seed banks first and see if they really remind me of what I remember, and if not to try to rebreed the strain again using the the same lineages. maybe even try substituting another sativa strain with one of the originals just to see what would happen. I don't know a whole lot about breeding and horticulture husbandry, but I'm doing all I can to learn. The main reason being in 88 I was snitched on, busted, and did a few years for my own young stupidity. when I came out the skunk was gone the old man was passed away and I had no way of finding and getting hold of his sons to see of they had any seeds I'm sure they did, and a few years ago while down there I ran up on a friend who said he could get the old skunk bud. It was expensive as it always was, but sure enough, to my best recollections it was. It has been along time but once a person has grown hundreds of plants of the same strain over almost 4 seasons you pretty well know it when you see it, smell it, taste, and experience it
So please count me in on this one, I'd love to find a source for REAL Skunk seeds. And I am on the hunt now and or an effort to try and rebreed it for my own use, and to give a little to a few close friends once in a while. I don't sell weed. God gave it to us He never charged us anything, so I give it to others when I can. Have a good 'un. Wolf :tiphat:


Thanks for the interesting read! It's too bad you didn't set aside some seed stock when you had the chance.

If you're expecting a genuine skunk aroma, I think you'll be disappointed by most strains labeled "skunk #1" nowadays.
 

ozza

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3-Methyl-2-butene-1-thiol is found in alcoholic beverages. Substance responsible for ``sun-struck'' flavour of beer. 3-Methyl-2-butene-1-thiol is found in coffee. 3-Methyl-2-butene-1-thiol is used in food flavourings 3-Methyl-2-butene-1-thiol belongs to the family of Hemiterpenes. These are terpenes containing only one isoprene unit (C5-terpene).

http://www.hmdb.ca/metabolites/HMDB31529

Am I reading that wrong or does the statement from the link not refer to a thiol as being a Hemiterpene?
 

highsteppa

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Thanks for the read smoking wolf! Considering you smoked the bud in the last few years, you seem closer than anyone to the real skunk. Any chance of hooking up with that old buddy again? I haven't the skunk since '92 or '93.
 
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