The Original Zamal is a Perennial?

[Donald Mallard]

I havent seen any perennial plants ,
but i have seen what you speak of idiit on a few plants ,
they were african sativas and would have mature and maturing buds on the same plant as vegetating branches ,
you could harvest mature parts from the plants perpetually ,
while other parts on the plant continued to grow with no flowers on them ..

I only recall 2 plants doing that of the many i grew ,
they were very appreciated though ,
one produced an ounce a fortnight or so ,
very handy .. lol ...

 

[Stinkhorn123]

I know this sounds crazy but ive seen this happen several times with the mighty mite strain. This was in a short northern climate. First Harvest was late August, then a rapid regrowth and flower that was picked about 6 weeks later. Certainly not perennial in mighty mites case but a real odd trait that I and several friends witnessed with this strain. It does make me wonder as both strains auto flower.

 

[JamieShoes]

Awesome info everyone, I've learned something new in this thread.. and that's always a good thing

I mean, I kinda knew that we could make them "perennial" in the sense that we can make them re-veg, but I had no idea they did this "in nature" and in some cases without any outside influence or manipulation... the idea that Cannabinoid profiles are potentially being improved with age is also very very interesting.. I hope the guys in the Search For Trip Weed thread are taking note.. this could be part of the journey to finding it


Thanks again everyone

 

[idiit]

And after 7 years of consumption "zamal" and planting I can say that the zamal and the term is used to designate the meeting cannabis but there are 100 ene variety of zamal if not more (carrote mango, lemon quality quality pepper) (Without forgotten that the zamal are 100% sativa)
(The quality mango carrot being the more and more high deem

Foot 20M yes there are, they are usually in the heights of the island, or to mafate cilaos for those who know ...


mang 'karot: top never smoked better than that

purple filament: gives you a very big bar

kalite earth: but average taste effect top

kalite pepper: ca makes you cough but at the same home, we Konye (bangs / block) the seal.

Moreover we smoke more often in normal ocb sheets (small), 2 head for a sheet: and it left my kiki, as we say it is chocked 2 taf, we can be at 7 on a sheet attached and each smoke his two slats, blocks and turns ...

and there you see the stars and some even the moon mdrrr


short is good, your culture is very pretty, it gives me who want away from my island but I would patiently ones to me soon !!!

LOOL !! hi I réunnionnnais and I live at the meeting on st paul.Ne you not file with the zamal. puts it in the earth and allowed to grow naturally and you oras the best weed ki may exist on this earth, but stopped with the growth and flo !! leaves time to do things. especially not of fertilizer !! The zamal do not like that!. Voila jte souhaine a good crop and a good harvest. Moin to 5 kilos per pioed if your crop is good. But leaves fell into AC pots do not go tt went away ca. I forgot this plant takes 1 year to ripen. it is a tree if you ten good care. Me my foot has 4 years and I smoked for 3 years on my tree ... go @ ++ good chanse be patient and you will not regretera !!

http://www.cannaweed.com/topic/20119-zamal-de-la-reunion/page-2?hl=zamal

Hi.
I will post here one of the JDC texts of our friend Reunion Evergreen (crazy farmer ;-))
I quote:


Zamal (local name of which comes from the Cannabis Madagascar "ZAMALA").

The Zamal Reunion is a crop plant or naturalized, that is to say, which was introduced to the island by humans (there is a little more than two centuries) and which can multiply in the Nature without his intervention.

The island's colonial history that genetic sources Zamal are difficult to determine. The bulk of the genetic stock is probably of Indian origin (probably from the Coromandel Coast). Seeds brought from other regions are also possible: Pakistani, African strains (especially Mozambique or via the countries of the Muslim-Arab world), Madagascar, China and other countries bordiers the Indian Ocean basin. The development of air transport then reported the arrival likely last two or three decades of European cultivars.
Zamal genetics is in constant fluctuation because of its history and because the main cultivation method adopted on the island. The plants are grown outdoors and do not benefit from special care. Males or monoecious plants are sometimes belatedly uprooted and clean air conditions in the rugged terrain of the island are the volatile pollen is spread over great distances, resulting in a very active fertilization of female feet.
There is therefore no single Zamal but incalculable crowd of officials crosses a very unstable genetic (photo 09 and 10). The phenotype remains predominantly sativa type. This multiplicity finally rejoices consumers because for every "variety" there is a flavor, odor and a different effect. It should be noted against by a strong tendency to monoecy.

The drawback of these "hybrid" rest mainly slow and late flowering. Sometimes it takes between 9 and 12 months for a plant matures in outdoor.
The advantage lies in its effect deemed violent. A toxicological study conducted by Professor A. ***** r of the forensic institute in Strasbourg shows tetrahydrocannabinolic acid content, cannabidiol and cannabidiolic acid which is 0.2848%, respectively, 0.0055 % and 0.0014%. Other studies indicate that THC Zamal rate is usually between 15% and 30%.
That you know everything and thank you Evergreen

^

a small head (but big picture oops) of zamal strain gipsy-nirvana.Pas alot of resin on leaves (as a lot of sativa) but quanmeme good (even very good) on chalices -D

Small heads not great, yet a huge effect, powerful and very heavy corp.


There or the Meeting already is more to be a heaven is to live (not to mention my zion we stick just to the zeb ^^). Indeed as long as you ayé Labris has a small garden of contemplation the zamal grows effortlessly over the years and operates a natural extraordinary selection ..

Your first foot will probably be a herma and will detre harvested a year before (about 600gram but his varies greatly) hundreds of seeds will sink to the foot of the tree and thirty plants will to push, just a year on keeping the two or three best.

After three years the plans are already stronger, goutu and sometimes even crossing naturally séfectuent with other planes in the area and each year remains only the best.

Re,

Not at all ... the zamal is not any hemp grown ... it is a landrace.
A unique variety in the world with variations in phe (red filament, purple in the blast, mango-carrot) but it is a variety in itself.

The problem is that the last ten years, growers / traders have crossed the zamal with skunk notament to increase efficiency and shorten the flo (much like the introduction of Pakistani Indica in Morocco).
So that now it is increasingly difficult to find zamal "pure" unless you conaissez a farmer who does that to anytime since (like Gramoun 'high).

On the pictures (that I could see in miniature on their profile), it's actually a sativa, but it might as well be Thai, Colombian, Mexican, African as Reunion.

So without provenance, and again, and no one can confirm that is indeed Zamal.


If it is harvestable within 3-5 months flo is not zamal.

http://www.cannaweed.com/topic/6500-topic-unique-variete-tropicale-le-zamal/page-4?hl=zamal

hi everyone! I sui Reunionese and I live in France may I sui already party meeting on holiday and yes the zamale grows very well, even all year because in winter it is 25 degrees! I do push France seems to me complicated by the fact its very large sizes, and its very long flowering pe ... we even leave a foot from one year to another since it does not die! and each crop will be larger (about 5 years pa plus) qualitée is to go believe me !!!! hello to all good fumette!

alot of thing they say about zamal then I will tell you mienes (without a claim to the absolut truth) here is actually my first experiences with smoking joints are made with zamal (in 1997) not at the meeting but in France! ( chin area) it was the weed that the big brother of a friend grown in his garden in the ground, the seeds had been raporté him to the meeting with a buddy who was left him live there. I rubbed the garden and so it all zamal summers these plants was a funny-looking she was very tall and very buissoneuses rod andthe were very thin beet and cabbage tops with reddish peduncles the odor was a kind of exotic mango fruit with melenge spicy peppery note vrait a delight! it was late harvest (around the beginning of November) but it did have a place perfect maturity of the plant! the heads was airy very long fine not more than an inch thick and has crystallized wish!, the effect was strong and very special and high psyqué .j'en philosophical fummer have grown 4 years and then again for lack of seeds I lost it and I don 'have found more until 2006, since this year 2006, I came across a gypsy nirvana Amsterdam own shop selling these seeds as the gipsy nirvana collection and guess what! they have seeds of zamal I tested outside and imagine that I find the same characteristics as the zamal I knew already: appearance, odor / taste, temp florason, high, thin head and everything is crystal clear so if you want the zamal go on www.seedboutique.com/ chao

http://www.cannaweed.com/topic/14176-le-zamal/?hl=zamal

 

[idiit]

^ basic condensed version:

gypsy's zamal is highly regarded as the real deal by the reunion zamal growers.

the mango carotte is the trippy one out of lots of different zamals.

zamal is a perennial. edited to add: some zamal varieties; perhaps just the mango carotte auto flower zamal variety. remember there are over 10 recognized sativa la reunion sativas termed loosely as "zamal".

I could not find the actual technique employed re "perpetual harvest".

 

[idiit]

doubt the very best weed I smoked in my life was Zamal.It only happened to me a couple of times to find some stash that reminded of zamal's quality in holland.
You can actually find some strains that will definitely remind you of famous north american or dutch indoor strains.

strains: the most common strains are :
"mangue carotte" : "mango-carots", green/orange buds that taste like mango and carots
"rougail-zourite": "poulp dish": a grey sticky sativa/indica mix , insane.

I often got some northern lights like buds, yellow, flower as big as my thumb nail.

The top connoisseur weed will sound weird to ya'll: it's called "sekopie", wich means "dry on plant" .The older countrymen grow it.It is a branch that was left on the plant once it is mature, drought on the plant, in the sun for between 1 year to sometimes 5 years.This turns into brown buds that turn into dust when you grind them.The smoke is the most amazing thing one can imagine, and the effect can't be described.Priceless stuff.

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?p=577543&highlight=zamal+reunion#post577543

as a grower that returns to gardens that made it to harvest the previous year I find it impossible to believe that dead bud survived on the plant for 5 years. I do believe in sun dried bud on the vine so to speak. I think the author is referring to a plant that lasted five years ( at it's peak potency as a perennial) and the buds off this last harvest "on the vine sun cured". now this would be the 'good shit' from what my personal research and grow experiences intuitively suggest.

 

[scai]

Veery interesting
Thank idiit for info.
So this plant has much more to offer that we ever thought.
Now, when I think about it, of course near Equator the day/night is 12/12 or near it.
Even the finnish name for it says it.

And yes, there has been a mix in there too.So is it that the oldest seeds are near pure zamal?
In the other hand would be nice t travel there and see how all mixed genes have adapted

 

[burmese]

have now two weeks seedling mandala mango zamal, slim bladed leafes now, waiting if they really flower to 3 weeks from sprout, there was on their mandala site about growing 20 meter pure zamal plants//5years plants or so//. I always wanted experimented with those immortal genes in zamal, flo, euforia, matanuska tundra //not growed but read it////.
From my experience the oldest the plant the better smoke quality//growed and smoked 2years the same revegetated plants//
also the most livable //revegetating power// buds are down also because they are usually most underdeveloped compare to top buds// mainly indoor//
also when plants are ripe and environment is still fine //indoor// you can see that the plant can live ,,forever,, //not really//, from my experience its more easyer with good amouint of uv //

 

[Donald Mallard]

A cannabis plant cant live for 5 years without cloning it and regrowing them , these reports are not from growers ,
sounds fun and all , but its not true , or real , or possible ...
Cannabis is an annual , you cant make it a perennial just because you want to believe that..
i live in the tropics also , i see how they grow , ive been watching all my life ,
i have never seen a perennial cannabis plant yet ... twice in a season yes ,, any more is just pipe dreams ...

 

[Bob Green]

I think a lot of plants are better after they have matured a while. If you give three phenos of the same line three rounds before deciding on a keeper we sometimes favor at the end the cut we most wanted to cull during the first run. The plant matures and we get to know its needs so we can dial it inn proper.

I do think clones are the better method vs the reveg.

I guess a good question would be how long do strains have on average before they lose vigor and start to catch genetic drift and go down hill?

How long does it take for a plant to hit that sweet spot when it is at its prime for breeding/growing? How long does a cut retain its peak performance?

But a cutting is not actually a clone its a cutting. The cutting is as old as the seed plant it came from. There is quite a few old cuttings running around the planet.

What year was Garret's Zamal cut germinated? Did it age like wine? Is it as good now as it ever was?

But I could see a plant being better after a few years. Some people put clones of their mothers outside to veg under the sun for a few months, then cut fresh healthy new mothers for the coming year. Shantibaba for one says he uses that method to keep vigor in his old clones.

How well a cutting is taken care of can be a big deal too. Some folks will just never be able to take a plant to its full potential. It takes a few rounds of practice and a lot of people are flowering from seed instead of letting a plant mature for a few months and then starting cuts 12/12 after they root. It takes a lot of time and space to do the sativa thing the right way. Few rounds of that will take a few years.

How cool would it be if we could test large populations outside, then breed inside?

 

[Waldgeist]

its obvious these zamal or zamal leaning plants are special in all kinds of traits, seems very possible to run continuous harvests for several years under the right conditions, not here

 

[idiit]

I don't know anything about what you pic. there waldgeist, but his pic.^ my friends is what my auto zamal from zamaldelica (zamalish) looked like starting a week 6 from seed. I kept cuts off her for close to a year under 24 photoperiod and she never came out of flowering. potency on mine was medium. euphoric high. extreme vigor and hardiness in hybrids (trees, bushes taller than 1 story houses) the terps. grown outdoors ( again especially in hybrids) were magnificent spicy. the pheno I had was a breeder/keeper. the auto zamal/angola red (zamal breeze) was the best cross I've made imo. I did not treasure her run puro. I treasure her in hybrids. I think of almost all landraces in terms of hybrid potential anyway. wanting to get those 1+1 =3 elite crosses like zamal breeze.

I know for some it's hard to believe but if you read the zamal posts at cannaweed from zamal growers there is no doubt that some strains of zamal run in the la reunion environment are perennials. many different growers report this. there are a lot of zamal posts at cannaweed. all in French!

 

[scai]

Waldgeist, your grow looks like mine.Buckets and plastic knives
Is it Zamaldelica in your picture or what?

 

[Donald Mallard]

Hi idiit ,
I wish i could read what they write ,
is there any way to read it ???

Dont you think its unusual that of all the world where cannabis grows,
one place happens to have perennial herb
where everyone else has annual herb ??

Why would that be ??
Im interested to get to the bottom of it ,
i think we are seeing exaggerated grow reports honestly ,
i would like to see a plant that is harvested 3 or more times ...

 

[idiit]

the perpetual harvest, perennial growth capacity of zamal is unique and difficult to believe without documented sources.

i'm an outdoor grower. I have never ( maybe almost never, but rare to say the least) had a decent sized outdoor plant where all the bud came in mature at the same time. last year I harvested a nanan bouclou from September into November. got bud 4 different times. the idea that you harvest a monster od plant at one time, cut the entire plant back is contrary to my growing experience.

^^ when you have a monster auto flowering zamal in a tropical environment without much change in daylight photoperiod over the entire year the "perpetual harvest" concept is easy for me to believe.

I spent a couple of hours reading French posts by opening up three tabs; one cannaweed, one google translate and one ic mag. I then copy and pasted the french posts one by one, translated them and then copied some of them to my ic post.

below are a couple. I came across quite a few but it takes hours to do the translating and copy and pasting. there are a lot of posts on zamal in French to go thru.

But the most incredible trait of this plant is neither its taste nor the effect. It’s the fact that it keeps growing and flowering for two, sometimes three years in a row.

http://forums.strainhunters.com/sit...ndraces/reunion-island-the-perpetual-weed-r17

we even leave a foot from one year to another since it does not die! and each crop will be larger (about 5 years pa plus) qualitée is to go believe me !!!! hello to all good fumette!

google translated

salut a tous! je sui rèunionais et je vis en france mai je sui deja parti a la réunion en vacances et oui le zamale pousse tres bien,meme toute l'année puisque en hiver il fait 25 degré!ma le faire pousser en france me parait compliquer du fait de sa tres grandes tailles,et de sa floraison tres longues...on pe meme laisser un pied d'une année sur l'autre puisqu'il ne meurt pas!et chaque récolte sera plus importantes (environ 5 ans pa plus)et la qualitée est au rendez vous croyez moi!!!!salut a tous bonne fumette!

original post in French post #11

http://www.cannaweed.com/topic/14176-le-zamal/?hl=zamal

Pour conclure : le zamal, à La Réunion, se joue parfois des photopériodes et peut très bien fleurir à n'importe quel moment de l'année

To conclude: zamal, Reunion, sometimes photoperiod plays very well and can bloom any time of the year

post #5

^http://www.cannaweed.com/topic/47294-probleme-de-floraison-specifique/?hl=%2Bzamal+%2Bevergreen#entry1965008

ale ale taste mango too often and too high for a lot of people, some feet several years and still give two crops per year !

aie aie gout mango aussi très souvent et Trop forte pour pas mal de monde, certains pieds ont plusieurs années et donnent encore 2 recoltes par an

post # 22

http://www.cannaweed.com/topic/6500-topic-unique-variete-tropicale-le-zamal/page-2?hl=zamal

It is also exceptionally long flowering outside, up to 10 months and more an endless stretch

Ca floraison est aussi exceptionnellement longue en extérieur, jusqu'à 10 mois et en plus un stretch interminable

post # 29


http://www.cannaweed.com/topic/6500-topic-unique-variete-tropicale-le-zamal/page-2?hl=zamal

It is also told by the islands Keepers that it displays distinct regenerative capabilities- perpetual growth that is not displayed as commonly or successfully in other cannabis lineage making this a very special landrace Sativa indeed

http://fr.**********.eu/strain-info/Zamal_Reunion/Seeds_of_Africa/

 

[idiit]

since we are on the topic zamal I posted the following translated quote + link. as if you didn't have enough info about the unique qualities of some zamal attributes grown in zamal ( perennial, perpetual harvest) there is a third!

according to many posts I've read there is another zamal legend! it absorbs the terpenes of the surrounding vegetation.

Zamal (local name of which comes from the Cannabis Madagascar "ZAMALA").

The Zamal Reunion is a crop plant or naturalized, that is to say, which was introduced to the island by humans (there is a little more than two centuries) and which can multiply in the Nature without his intervention.

The island's colonial history that genetic sources Zamal are difficult to determine. The bulk of the genetic stock is probably of Indian origin (probably from the Coromandel Coast). Seeds brought from other regions are also possible: Pakistani, African strains (especially Mozambique or via the countries of the Muslim-Arab world), Madagascar, China and other countries bordiers the Indian Ocean basin. The development of air transport then reported the arrival likely last two or three decades of European cultivars.
Zamal genetics is in constant fluctuation because of its history and because the main cultivation method adopted on the island. The plants are grown outdoors and do not benefit from special care. Males or monoecious plants are sometimes belatedly uprooted and clean air conditions in the rugged terrain of the island are the volatile pollen is spread over great distances, resulting in a very active fertilization of female feet.
There is therefore no single Zamal but incalculable crowd of officials crosses a very unstable genetic (photo 09 and 10). The phenotype remains predominantly sativa type. This multiplicity finally rejoices consumers because for every "variety" there is a flavor, odor and a different effect. It should be noted against by a strong tendency to monoecy.

The drawback of these "hybrid" rest mainly slow and late flowering. Sometimes it takes between 9 and 12 months for a plant matures in outdoor.
The advantage lies in its effect deemed violent. A toxicological study conducted by Professor A. ***** r of the forensic institute in Strasbourg shows tetrahydrocannabinolic acid content, cannabidiol and cannabidiolic acid which is 0.2848%, respectively, 0.0055 % and 0.0014%. Other studies indicate that THC Zamal rate is usually between 15% and 30%.

Evergreen thank you!

et..30 15% !! pfouah !!

As you can see, this is a rather special plant. THC readings of up to 30%, I remain open to any demonstration, but for my part, I have never seen that before.
This could explain the power of psychedelic high, that differentiates a high zamal other high such as those of sativa Mexican, Colombian, Thai sticks, or that of haze

The zamal, it is the grass of Reunion.
And this is apparently the evolution of a partial mixing of seeds that accompanied the first inhabitants of the island.
Mainly sativa genes are found in zamals.
It is likely that Afghan type landraces, North Indian, or Chinese are indica came into play at certain times, but sativa dominance was preserved thanks to the warm and humid climate, and I think we can say that a true zamal is almost 100% sativa.

Today, some people use the term in a hurry because there are fewer zamal that ten years ago, much less that twenty years ago, etc ... but all cannabis is called zamal here, so that fashion skunky has grown, and the impatient farmers (or dealeurs tourists) have clearly helped crossing the zamal with indica strains.

What happens next then?
Eh bah I know.
I would love to try the purple wire or blue wire .. And above all cultivate!
How to find the seeds of almost pure varieties?
Or at least varieties that resisted the invasion indica

We talk about kalite mang karot, or lemon kalite.
Not varieties themselves.
The principle would be to sow his seed zamal at the foot of a mango tree or a lemon (or other citrus).
Are allowed to grow, by making a selection, keeping only the best female foot.
And there's magic, nothing more to do, and you would get (i did use the conditional, because I asked to taste and see the culture) of mango flavors, or lemon. Finally, "trends" in perfumes reminiscent of mango (green and elsewhere acid apparently, not ripe and sweet as the Mango for example) or citrus.

I read along in broad topic, and all you talk about treatment after harvest, why neglect the preparation before harvest?
Knowing that the sulfur compounds are the main elicitors terpenes, increase in intake before cut. Just as there is a biological system designed for all outdoor is growing close to other fragrant plants.
The nature is such, there will be competition between the plants and the reaction will be increased production of odor molecules to attract pollinators ...
GEN says.

From my side, I have a grapefruit tree and a mango tree, but in the part of the garden where I unfortunately can not do experiments, since it serves as a playground for brats next door ...
So I experimented in the Zingiberaceae (ginger, and ginger-mango), with my micro-bud-one. We'll see if there is interaction. I would like to test with lemongrass too, which feels very strong, from the root to leaf tip.

Ridiculous? Maybe, but I like to learn it by myself. It helps.

If you have already experienced such techniques, tell me! By cons, if it is to tell me the usual legends say that the Granmoun Granmoun your Granmoun did, good, in all courtesy, that's not worth it. The interesting is ongoing cultures, pictures, concrete experiences.
We try to move forward, to demystify a little zafair what!
This is not magic !!
Who ever smoked weed for the meeting to either mango or lemon flavor trend?

The kalite pepper under another characteristic in the sense that some Afghan as, for example, they naturally have a peppery flavor.

The kalite grain is a quality harvest, it's a good weed grained, so not strong at all, with a taste of everything bidon..l'inverse sinsemilla.

The kalités mauve or blue wire are legendary for me, since I have not seen any.
Apparently the blue really disappeared.
And the rare purple wire.
Were ripening qualities of certain varieties that gives them a bluish or purplish hair as red sometimes (the famous red thread), you know, this colored line in the middle of pistils ... umm, how beautiful!
Personally, I love these phe, they are really beautiful.
"Blue wire" .. I dream the night stuff like that ...

Come on, I leave you, there's not that the JDC in life ...

I look forward to your answers, and in the meantime I'm going to enjoy pasta pesto has prepared all my wife (no, I eat three curries a day ..)

http://www.cannaweed.com/index.php?app=core&module=search&section=search&do=search&fromsearch=1

We discuss these interactions in topics:
Discussion on drying
Its flavor grass during curing

(I can not put links to the pages of the terminals EXIF properties url..help!)

Are allowed to grow, by making a selection, keeping only the best female foot.

some feet several years and still give two crops per year !

post #22 linked above

^ from my research I believe this "foot" refers to the root system. there are quotes I've supplied that do not employ the term "foot" so my claim to have documented from several disparate sources re zamal perennial is not dependent on my interpretation of the "foot" term.

 

[Donald Mallard]

Just sounds like normal tropical growth other than the more than a year or 2 harvests,
i read this from strain hunters ...

The most experienced growers tell tales of plants that have been planted in December, harvested the next April, then went back into growth for two months, then flowered again and were harvested a second time in August. And some say they swear to have seen plants harvested even a third time the next April, one and a half year after being planted. I cannot confirm the truth of these claims, but I can testify that it is considered common knowledge on the island.

December to april , and then to august isnt over a year ,
the quote says some even swear they go longer ,
i think its a case of misinterpretation and inexperienced growers...

What would be particularly special to that island to make some sativa adapt a perpetually growing pattern ??
Its a really lovely looking island , amazing peaks due to those 2 big volcanoes , probably awesome volcanic soil ,
but hawaii has all that and is a very similar latitude in the north hemisphere ,
so why dont we see perpetual cannabis there also ??

 

[Waldgeist]

I don't know anything about what you pic. there waldgeist, but his pic.^ my friends is what my auto zamal from zamaldelica (zamalish) looked like starting a week 6 from seed. I kept cuts off her for close to a year under 24 photoperiod and she never came out of flowering. potency on mine was medium. euphoric high. extreme vigor and hardiness in hybrids (trees, bushes taller than 1 story houses) the terps. grown outdoors ( again especially in hybrids) were magnificent spicy. the pheno I had was a breeder/keeper. the auto zamal/angola red (zamal breeze) was the best cross I've made imo. I did not treasure her run puro. I treasure her in hybrids. I think of almost all landraces in terms of hybrid potential anyway. wanting to get those 1+1 =3 elite crosses like zamal breeze.

I know for some it's hard to believe but if you read the zamal posts at cannaweed from zamal growers there is no doubt that some strains of zamal run in the la reunion environment are perennials. many different growers report this. there are a lot of zamal posts at cannaweed. all in French!

hey idiit,

yes its indeed a clone of zamaldelica, #6. the seed was germed last spring(2014), i can keep it in veg with a glr light cycle and regular changes of the medium. under 18 or 24hrs it will start autoflowering but no real 'tight' flowering.

this was a clone of the seedplant in full clean veg(glr) indoors

then starting flower on 11/13, 10/14

it was also last year od, but i deleted the pics

now this recent outdoor plant shown is my last clone of her, i try to clone it again in august to put a small mom back indoors to keep her forever and some days ...

she dies by frost, otherwise i would try to overwinter in a gardenshed, then reveg in spring.
i swear its the same plant, looks so different from indoors to out.

 

[Donald Mallard]

Hi idiit,
ok i have a few problems with the info from those links ,
seems the dont understand basic growing in the tropics and how it works,
and growing a plant under a mango tree to get it to smell like mangoes , come on man who are these guys??? thats so misinformed ,
i think you ll find this whole perpetual story is the same ,
folks who dont really understand how cannabis grows ,
nor do they understand why it grows like it does where they live ,
so we end up with wild tales ...
for instance ...

^^ when you have a monster auto flowering zamal in a tropical environment without much change in daylight photoperiod over the entire year the "perpetual harvest" concept is easy for me to believe.


really ,, at 21 degrees south latitude you sure get changes in the days ,, up to 14 hour days i should think ,
so likely down to 10 hrs and up to 14 , thats a fair change right??

auto flowering in the tropics ?? but its 6 metres tall ?? huh , thats not auto flowering, its shown sex and continued to grow thats all ...

I dont doubt Zamal is good pot , ive heard plenty say it ,
but auto flowering in the tropics , and perennial growth,
some growers are just exaggerating and getting their information mixed up i can assure you ,
ive grown tropical sativas in the tropics all my life ,
i am closer to the equator than la reunion ,
i have a good idea what im talking about ,

perpetual cannabis is not real , folks are just getting mixed up which year they planted their plants ,, darn stoners ...

 

[Donald Mallard]

One more think id like to draw attention too is the quote i put up from strainhunters ..

""The most experienced growers tell tales of plants that have been planted in December, harvested the next April, then went back into growth for two months, then flowered again and were harvested a second time in August. And some say they swear to have seen plants harvested even a third time the next April, one and a half year after being planted. I cannot confirm the truth of these claims, but I can testify that it is considered common knowledge on the island.""""


It says they plant in december , now remembering southern seasons are opposite to the northen ones,
so december is the month that has the longest day ,
it falls from there until june which has the shortest day ..

so they harvested their december planted plant in april ,
thats fairly normal for a southern harvest ,
but then for some reason , with the hours near their lowest , and falling ,
it magically re veges how the heck does it reveg , then flower again in the middle of winter to be harvested in august ,
thats just plain bullshit ,, someone has messed up their months , stories , what ever they did , that just cant happen , even with a magical tropical sativa , they will not re veg while the hours are so low and still falling ... it totally defies all the habits we know about cannabis ...