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Robrites

THC/CBD % ?!!!

Is this true that THC/CBD is being regulated? This is news to me. Can anyone confirm that there is a standard that must be passed for ratio of THC to CBD?

I have been breeding specifically for low CBD.

1.) I hate couch-lock.
2.) I believe low CBD increases anti depressant qualities and makes the THC level feel far more potent.
3.) CBD is not the only chemical in Cannabis that is analgesic.
4.) THC alone is anti inflammatory.

It is likely that I have misread the intent of the quote above. I have no problem with listing cannabinoid content, but please tell me that there is nothing that regulates cannabinoid content or ratios.

Thanks in advance,

ThaiBliss - Easily alarmed about this. LOL!
I don't think THC/CBD is being regulated. The test is so consumers know what they are buying. I think.
 

Big Sur

Member
Relax. The THC/CBD tests in Oregon are for % of content only, and a reference test to put on retail labels. There is no requirement for cannabinol ratios here in Oregon. Mold and pesticides are testing standards that are pass/fail. But even if you fail on mold, you can still sell to a processor that uses a method that destroys the mold when it is refined into hash oil or shatter.

As for CBD, that is NOT what causes couch-lock. Many indica and cross strains that have high couch-lock are very low in CBD. Also Lebanese hashish that has a very high CBD to THC ratio has a very good high and no couch lock. For that reason I believe that CBD actually has better anti-depressant qualities when combined with smaller percentages of THC. While CBD does take the edge off the THC psychotropic effects (which is a good thing IMO), it does not interfere with the other physiological effects of THC, like anti-inflamation. If anything, it allows you to take in more THC than you could without the CBD. Which, if you are just looking for a pure mind trashing high, then leave the CBD out. Me, I want the CBD in. For this treason I am planning on only growing Lebanese landraces here next year. In my many many years of smoking many types of weed, hash, oils and extracts, I have never smoked anything better than Lebanese red hashish. That tends to test out at about 3x the amount of CBD to THC testing Leb1 though Leb10 strains in labs in the UK.

THC/CBD % ?!!!

Is this true that THC/CBD is being regulated? This is news to me. Can anyone confirm that there is a standard that must be passed for ratio of THC to CBD?

I have been breeding specifically for low CBD.

1.) I hate couch-lock.
2.) I believe low CBD increases anti depressant qualities and makes the THC level feel far more potent.
3.) CBD is not the only chemical in Cannabis that is analgesic.
4.) THC alone is anti inflammatory.

It is likely that I have misread the intent of the quote above. I have no problem with listing cannabinoid content, but please tell me that there is nothing that regulates cannabinoid content or ratios.

Thanks in advance,

ThaiBliss - Easily alarmed about this. LOL!
 
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Robrites

Emergency Bulletin: Firefox 0 day in the wild. What to do.

Emergency Bulletin: Firefox 0 day in the wild. What to do.

We’re publishing this as an emergency bulletin for our customers and the larger web community. A few hours ago a zero day vulnerability emerged in the Tor browser bundle and the Firefox web browser. Currently it exploits Windows systems with a high success rate and affects Firefox versions 41 to 50 and the current version of the Tor Browser Bundle which contains Firefox 45 ESR.
If you use Firefox, we recommend you temporarily switch browsers to Chrome, Safari or a non-firefox based browser that is secure until the Firefox dev team can release an update. The vulnerability allows an attacker to execute code on your Windows workstation. The exploit is in the wild, meaning it’s now public and every hacker on the planet has access to it. There is no fix at the time of this writing.
Currently this exploit causes a workstation report back to an IP address based at OVH in France. But this code can likely be repurposed to infect workstations with malware or ransomware. The exploit code is now public knowledge so we expect new variants of this attack to emerge rapidly.
This is a watering hole attack, meaning that a victim has to visit a website that contains this exploit code to be attacked. So our forensic team is keeping an eye on compromised WordPress websites and we expect to see this code show up on a few of them during the next few days. An attackers goal would be to compromise workstations of visitors to WordPress websites that have been hacked.
https://www.wordfence.com/blog/2016/...m_medium=email
 
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Robrites

We’re publishing this as an emergency bulletin for our customers and the larger web community. A few hours ago a zero day vulnerability emerged in the Tor browser bundle and the Firefox web browser. Currently it exploits Windows systems with a high success rate and affects Firefox versions 41 to 50 and the current version of the Tor Browser Bundle which contains Firefox 45 ESR.
If you use Firefox, we recommend you temporarily switch browsers to Chrome, Safari or a non-firefox based browser that is secure until the Firefox dev team can release an update. The vulnerability allows an attacker to execute code on your Windows workstation. The exploit is in the wild, meaning it’s now public and every hacker on the planet has access to it. There is no fix at the time of this writing.
Currently this exploit causes a workstation report back to an IP address based at OVH in France. But this code can likely be repurposed to infect workstations with malware or ransomware. The exploit code is now public knowledge so we expect new variants of this attack to emerge rapidly.
This is a watering hole attack, meaning that a victim has to visit a website that contains this exploit code to be attacked. So our forensic team is keeping an eye on compromised WordPress websites and we expect to see this code show up on a few of them during the next few days. An attackers goal would be to compromise workstations of visitors to WordPress websites that have been hacked.
https://www.wordfence.com/blog/2016/...m_medium=email
A patch is now available. Update immediately.

http://arstechnica.com/security/201...e-for-firefox-0day-thats-under-active-attack/
 
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Robrites

Marijuana industry brought to a standstill by new pesticide testing regulations

Marijuana industry brought to a standstill by new pesticide testing regulations

Once packed with marijuana concentrates and extracts, the Human Collective's shelves are nearly empty.
Some pot leaf-patterned socks and glass pipes sit scattered among what's left. A static screen with just 13 flower options has replaced a digital "bud list" that used to scroll through the shop's options for people waiting in line. The lines are gone, too. Only one or two budtenders work at a time - cut in half from before.
Within months of Oregon's full recreational marijuana market coming online, the industry has come to a standstill with low supplies and big price jumps for consumers.
Don Morse, owner of the Human Collective in Southeast Portland, and other retailers, growers and processors blame Oregon's strict pesticide rules for the problem.
The regulations - the first mandatory pre-emptive testing in the country for marijuana - went into effect Oct. 1. But the state has so far licensed only a handful of laboratories to do the tests on thousands of products, including flowers, edibles, concentrates, oils and extracts.
And the tests are expensive - in some cases more than six times what companies used to pay, they report. Then they must wait weeks to get their products back and find out if they passed or failed.
Morse has laid off five budtenders since last month. He's down to about 10 percent of the concentrate inventory he had before October. He can't find anyone to sell him enough marijuana to fully restock.
That's happening in most of the more than 400 marijuana dispensaries around the state.
For Morse, the gridlock is ironic because he pushed for the rules. He helped convince growers and processors that reasonable pesticide limits and testing regulations would be better for them and consumers. But now the fledgling businesses are in jeopardy, he said.
"We don't want to come off like it's boohoo and we're only in it for ourselves," Morse said. "The people of the state said they wanted this both medically and recreationally. They left it to the state to set the rules and the state has set the rules to the point where it's no longer available to them. It's this roundabout way of making cannabis illegal again."
Megan Hatfield bought a vape pen cartridge of Sour Diesel for $45 at Morse's store. It's usually around $30 there, but she still considered it a bargain. She tried two other pot stores earlier in the week, finding only two other options, both at $80 for a gram.
"Honestly, I have been to a couple of places that didn't have a selection nearly as big as this," Hatfield said.
The Governor's Office is expected this week to announce some temporary fixes to address the testing backlog, while the Oregon Health Authority has borrowed inspectors from other divisions to help license labs.
The slowdown is the price of safety, said Jonathan Modie, a spokesman for the health authority.
"Our goal is to protect public health," he said, "by making sure that all marijuana products are tested for pesticides and other compounds by an accredited lab and that marijuana products that fail pesticide testing don't reach consumers."
More From Oregonlive
 

Phenome

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ICMag Donor
Once packed with marijuana concentrates and extracts, the Human Collective's shelves are nearly empty.
Some pot leaf-patterned socks and glass pipes sit scattered among what's left. A static screen with just 13 flower options has replaced a digital "bud list" that used to scroll through the shop's options for people waiting in line. The lines are gone, too. Only one or two budtenders work at a time - cut in half from before.
Within months of Oregon's full recreational marijuana market coming online, the industry has come to a standstill with low supplies and big price jumps for consumers.
Don Morse, owner of the Human Collective in Southeast Portland, and other retailers, growers and processors blame Oregon's strict pesticide rules for the problem.
The regulations - the first mandatory pre-emptive testing in the country for marijuana - went into effect Oct. 1. But the state has so far licensed only a handful of laboratories to do the tests on thousands of products, including flowers, edibles, concentrates, oils and extracts.
And the tests are expensive - in some cases more than six times what companies used to pay, they report. Then they must wait weeks to get their products back and find out if they passed or failed.
Morse has laid off five budtenders since last month. He's down to about 10 percent of the concentrate inventory he had before October. He can't find anyone to sell him enough marijuana to fully restock.
That's happening in most of the more than 400 marijuana dispensaries around the state.
For Morse, the gridlock is ironic because he pushed for the rules. He helped convince growers and processors that reasonable pesticide limits and testing regulations would be better for them and consumers. But now the fledgling businesses are in jeopardy, he said.
"We don't want to come off like it's boohoo and we're only in it for ourselves," Morse said. "The people of the state said they wanted this both medically and recreationally. They left it to the state to set the rules and the state has set the rules to the point where it's no longer available to them. It's this roundabout way of making cannabis illegal again."
Megan Hatfield bought a vape pen cartridge of Sour Diesel for $45 at Morse's store. It's usually around $30 there, but she still considered it a bargain. She tried two other pot stores earlier in the week, finding only two other options, both at $80 for a gram.
"Honestly, I have been to a couple of places that didn't have a selection nearly as big as this," Hatfield said.
The Governor's Office is expected this week to announce some temporary fixes to address the testing backlog, while the Oregon Health Authority has borrowed inspectors from other divisions to help license labs.
The slowdown is the price of safety, said Jonathan Modie, a spokesman for the health authority.
"Our goal is to protect public health," he said, "by making sure that all marijuana products are tested for pesticides and other compounds by an accredited lab and that marijuana products that fail pesticide testing don't reach consumers."
More From Oregonlive

So true^^^
Never thought id buy a gram of white label extracts for 35 and consider it a good deal. Now people like society are pushing there black sap for 30 each, flying off the shelf.
Shits getting crazy. Treating us like coke heads.
Less quality, More price....I'm more than dissapointed.

Don't worry, we at least will get decent prices back after the big wigs complete cornering the market.... :(
 
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Robrites

reasonably think stoned

reasonably think stoned

Page
1
of
3
Public Health Division
Oregon
Medical Marijuana
Program
Kate Brown
, Governor
Website: healthoregon.org/ommp
December 2
, 2016
MEDICAL MARIJUANA
INFORMATION BULLETIN 201
6
-
30
Subject:
Summary of New Temporary Testing Rules
___________________________________________________________________________
The Oregon Health Authority (OHA) has adopted temporary testing rules aim
ed at lowering the
testing burden
for producers and processors based on concerns and input from the mariju
ana
industry. While the new temporary testing rules lessen the testing burden, they are still
protective of public health and safety.
These rules are effective December 2, 2016 and will be valid until May 3
0
, 2017.
OHA will be
working on a permanent solut
ion to the testing issue beginning in the new year.
Testing is still required to be performed by an accredited and licensed laboratory. Testing rules
apply to both medical and retail marijuana items.
Below is a summary of the rule changes. The full rul
e text should be reviewed and may be
found at:
healthoregon.org/ommprules
General label Requirements; Prohibitions; Exceptions: OAR
333
-
007
-
0090

The THC and CBD amount required to be on a label must be the value calculated by
the laboratory that did the testing in accordance with OAR 333
-
064
-
0100, plus or minus
five percent.
Definitions: OAR 333
-
007
-
0310

The definition of “harvest lot” has been changed to allow more than one strain and to
clarify that any marijuana harvested within a 48 hour period is part of the same harvest
lot if it was cultivated using the same growing practices and is cured under unif
orm
conditions.
Batch Requirements: 333
-
007
-
0350

A processor or processing site, making cannabinoid edibles, must separate process lots
into not larger than 1000 unit batches.

The size of a process lot of concentrates, extracts or products other than ed
ibles,
submitted for sampling and testing for purposes of a control study (see below) defines
the maximum process lot size for future batch sampling and testing.
Sampling and Sample Size: OAR 333
-
007
-
0360

Samples of different batches of usable marijuana
may be combined for purposes of
testing for potency if the batches are the same strain.

hey-try this
http://public.health.oregon.gov/DiseasesConditions/ChronicDisease/MedicalMarijuanaProgram/Documents/bulletins/Informational%20Bulletin%202016-30%20Summary%20of%20New%20Temp%20Testing%20Rules.pdf
 

PDX Dopesmoker

Active member
Page
1
of
3
Public Health Division
Oregon
Medical Marijuana
Program
Kate Brown
, Governor
Website: healthoregon.org/ommp
December 2
, 2016
MEDICAL MARIJUANA
INFORMATION BULLETIN 201
6
-
30
Subject:
Summary of New Temporary Testing Rules
___________________________________________________________________________
The Oregon Health Authority (OHA) has adopted temporary testing rules aim
ed at lowering the
testing burden
for producers and processors based on concerns and input from the mariju
ana
industry. While the new temporary testing rules lessen the testing burden, they are still
protective of public health and safety.
These rules are effective December 2, 2016 and will be valid until May 3
0
, 2017.
OHA will be
working on a permanent solut
ion to the testing issue beginning in the new year.
Testing is still required to be performed by an accredited and licensed laboratory. Testing rules
apply to both medical and retail marijuana items.
Below is a summary of the rule changes. The full rul
e text should be reviewed and may be
found at:
healthoregon.org/ommprules
General label Requirements; Prohibitions; Exceptions: OAR
333
-
007
-
0090

The THC and CBD amount required to be on a label must be the value calculated by
the laboratory that did the testing in accordance with OAR 333
-
064
-
0100, plus or minus
five percent.
Definitions: OAR 333
-
007
-
0310

The definition of “harvest lot” has been changed to allow more than one strain and to
clarify that any marijuana harvested within a 48 hour period is part of the same harvest
lot if it was cultivated using the same growing practices and is cured under unif
orm
conditions.
Batch Requirements: 333
-
007
-
0350

A processor or processing site, making cannabinoid edibles, must separate process lots
into not larger than 1000 unit batches.

The size of a process lot of concentrates, extracts or products other than ed
ibles,
submitted for sampling and testing for purposes of a control study (see below) defines
the maximum process lot size for future batch sampling and testing.
Sampling and Sample Size: OAR 333
-
007
-
0360

Samples of different batches of usable marijuana
may be combined for purposes of
testing for potency if the batches are the same strain.

hey-try this
http://public.health.oregon.gov/DiseasesConditions/ChronicDisease/MedicalMarijuanaProgram/Documents/bulletins/Informational%20Bulletin%202016-30%20Summary%20of%20New%20Temp%20Testing%20Rules.pdf

This is from OHA and doesn't due anything to get more labs for OLCC product certified, so it strictly to keep MMJ on the market, but still seems like pretty good news.
 
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Robrites

To the Recreational Marijuana Community

To the Recreational Marijuana Community

To the Recreational Marijuana Community
A Message from Executive Director Marks

Hello Friends,

It’s been a busy year for the Oregon Liquor Control Commission and the Oregon marijuana community working together to establish Oregon’s new recreational marijuana market. Our work is far from complete but we pride ourselves with the strides we’ve taken to establish the legal market envisioned by Ballot Measure 91. 2016 has been filled with new laws, policy developments, and our furiously paced effort to license new businesses -- from farms to retail. Together we’ve succeeded in creating an integrated and functioning market with harvest, transportation, testing, processing and sales taking place each day: our very immature market has established a strong foundation to build on.

In 2017 our work will be to grow this market into a strong, profitable, and exceedingly legal industry. We will continue to support job creation and revenue growth all around the state. The changes made this week by the Oregon Health Authority to modify testing requirements are just one part of the continuing effort to shape a regulatory structure that supports business efficiency and creativity, establishes a robust marketplace that attracts consumers, and protects public health and safety.

All of us recognize the work is far from finished! Each day brings new challenges as we work to provide diverse market choices and ensure the stable supply of steadily growing variety of cannabis products. We’re very aware of the acute problems the industry is experiencing right now. On both the industry and regulatory side of the equation, we have to make choices and set priorities as we navigate territory unfamiliar to all of us. We will continue to work closely with OHA, ODA and the Governor’s office to find the right balance in testing requirements. Establishing our Oregon recreational marijuana market will continue to require and consume the capital and creative resources of both businesses and regulators.

One of OLCC’s responsibilities is to be a clear and consistent communicator, because sharing regulatory expectations and requirements gives our new businesses a fighting chance to establish themselves and protect their bottom line.

I want our prospective licensees to know that more than 900 applications are now assigned to investigators, including all retail and processor applications that were submitted by November 30, and had an approved Land Use Compatibility Statement (LUCS), to give all of those businesses the opportunity to be licensed prior to the close of Oregon’s Early Start program on December 31.

We will be focused for the remainder of December and through the first part of the year to help these applicants move into the recreational market. While we understand that our speed and efforts are crucial for many of the small businesses trying to cross the finish line, your work as applicants is just as critical. We can do our part if you do yours.

For applicants now assigned to investigators please provide all the information OLCC staff ask for as soon as possible. Get your sites ready to pass inspection. Complete the fingerprinting required for background checks immediately. If you plan to transfer product from the medical to the recreational market through an inventory transfer, don’t wait until the end of the application process to provide that information to your investigator. The faster you move the faster we can respond.

At this time we estimate that assigned applications can be approved within three to six weeks when applicants quickly complete all the required steps. In some cases it can take less time, and our investigators stand ready to try to make that happen for all retail and processor applicants assigned to them.

As the Executive Director, on the behalf of all of us at the OLCC, I want to convey to you that each of us see it as our job to help you succeed in meeting the hurdles of the regulatory environment and to put you in position to achieve business success through your own ingenuity and efforts. Certainly licensing is no guarantee of success, and it doesn’t mean we won’t make errors and mistakes along the way. We are in the period many of you have heard me describe as “the bumpy ride,” yet we are now turning the corner. Even in the midst of this turbulent transition businesses are developing, succeeding and are in position to grow within the recreational market. Most of what we are doing together is working, we have accomplished the ground work and established the foundation, and are ready to push into 2017.

2017 will also be the year our relationship matures and we will step up to level the playing field by enforcing the standards set in legislation and rule to ensure the firm establishment of an orderly, professional commodity market. This system you have helped create and invest in is one that must have internal integrity. We know that you expect and need fair enforcement within the system as well as action against illegal marijuana businesses that will undercut the legal market.

The OLCC understands progressive and proportional sanctions and as we move toward full enforcement, we will continue to emphasize educational compliance. At the same time we look to you to make a commitment to create best practices for your businesses, train your staff, and put constant care utilize the Cannabis Tracking System (CTS), the cornerstone of Oregon’s legal market.

Using the CTS requires rigorous attention to detail, but it is the fundamental component to support our enforcement responsibilities under state law, protect consumers, and provide an accountability system for tax collections; perhaps most importantly the CTS serves to prevent unwanted federal attention to Oregon’s decision to legalize cannabis sales and use. Given the importance of this system to all parts of the legalized market, please take the time to develop and master this system, and in turn we will do our part to improve and expand its capabilities.

Do expect us to routinely send out CTS-related notices to all licensees. We are committing to this because we are already seeing errors that when educational compliance expires, could lead to serious consequences. “Real time” guidance is not ideal but we believe it is necessary when systemic issues are developing that could lead to serious compliance problems for your business, and when we are overwhelmed with specific industry compliance questions. We will work to standardize the style of these communications so you recognize what they are and how to use them. As always, we are open to suggestions to streamline this flow of information, so do not hesitate to provide us feedback at [email protected].

In 2016, you and the OLCC created Oregon’s recreational marijuana market. The OLCC is now ready to turn the corner with you. The new year will not be without challenges; there will be plenty of changes, responsibilities will shift and grow through the next legislative session. However because of our work together to this point, 2017 will be the year we deliver to Oregonians a developed, functional and maturing recreational marijuana market, one that is poised to tackle the opportunities and challenges the coming years will bring.

Thank you for your attention and work to make our system the best in the nation. Let’s continue to take pride in these efforts and the vision we have to achieve it.

Sincerely,
Steve

Steve Marks
Executive Director
Oregon Liquor Regulator Commission
 

PDX Dopesmoker

Active member
This is actually paraphrasing that letter from boss OLCC rather than quoting it
Hey guys, we're your friends so don't forget to obey the law and please be as compliant as possible or we can make life hard for you. In return we agree to probably process your license when we get around to it.

Best regards,
Your threatening friends from the government

p.s. If you thought this was going to contain any sort of good news like that thing from the OHA, fat chance.

That one was just politician wannabe stuff, there wasn't any information in it. Probably cost us a small fortune to have some government ass kisser craft that offensive waste of time & send it out to us and the big shots in government can't seem to understand why "drain the swamp" sentiment is such winner these days. How many people here remember that Steve Marks hid a recent DUII arrest when he was being vetted under oath for OLCC top slot? Its perjury and nothing happened to him, he even kept his job.
Lets see what happens to you if you're caught doing the same thing applying for an OLCC work permit.
I bet he didn't have to pay a $100 fee and get fingerprinted either. Of course he shouldn't need to, government people are too trustworthy and valuable to be put through that kind of scrutiny. Only people who's income come from exchanging goods for cash are potentially dishonest enough to be worthy of suspicion, while people who earn their living honestly by talking, hand waving & threatening with no oversight or bottom line couldn't possibly be bullshitters.

imma just go sell crack instead, its a better crowd
 
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Sluicebox

Member
I've been waiting for the right day to burn. You know that day when the smoke goes straight up. Well thought I had it today. Called the number, burn is allowed yada yada. Threw about 5 lbs of leaf, stem etc on the pile and lit it up. Smoke was going straight up yay! Then wind shifted, dropped that smoke to the ground and filled in this little canyon. Neighbors all got the munchies I'm sure, cuz I got ripped just standing there. So is that a recreational fire or Agricultural? Took me 10 min to type this lol. Have a good one.
 
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Robrites

I've been waiting for the right day to burn. You know that day when the smoke goes straight up. Well thought I had it today. Called the number, burn is allowed yada yada. Threw about 5 lbs of leaf, stem etc on the pile and lit it up. Smoke was going straight up yay! Then wind shifted, dropped that smoke to the ground and filled in this little canyon. Neighbors all got the munchies I'm sure, cuz I got ripped just standing there. So is that a recreational fire or Agricultural? Took me 10 min to type this lol. Have a good one.
Best chuckle I've had in a while....Thanks.

I used to burn mine in a wood stove....wind shift...church next door...
 

HorseMouth

Active member
Sorry boys, but I had a different interpretation of that letter from the OLCC. I appreciate the effort and the communication. Regardless if I have to read between the lines, that is an effort. Most states wouldn't even bother with a pretense, but Oregon does have us in mind.

Peace
 

Aota1

Member
I have to attend and possibly speak at a city council meeting next week to represent my shop. Wish me luck!
 

Big Sur

Member
Yah, I got this email as well. With the added salutation to get your background check. I bailed out of rec growing as the list gets longer and longer for requirements, licenses, permits, testing, and the fees go higher and higher. What started out as a $1,000 a year annual grow license fee is now up to (cough) $5,750 a year now. The greed factor here is insane. My county has also added even more requirements for growing as well. Never mind the long delays in the process. Of the over 1750 applications made for rec weed licenses in Oregon (as of Dec. 6, 2016), only 453 are approved or active, another 61 are approved and pending payment, and the rest are in the queue or somewhere in the licensing process. The licensing backlog is HUGE! Like the testing logjam.

In the end I believe that things were better BEFORE Measure 91 passed. Really. Decriminalize weed, leave OMMP as it was, and forget the rest.

To the Recreational Marijuana Community
A Message from Executive Director Marks

Hello Friends,

Blah blah blah...

I want our prospective licensees to know that more than 900 applications are now assigned to investigators, including all retail and processor applications that were submitted by November 30, and had an approved Land Use Compatibility Statement (LUCS), to give all of those businesses the opportunity to be licensed prior to the close of Oregon’s Early Start program on December 31.

Blah blah blah...

Sincerely,
Steve

Steve Marks
Executive Director
Oregon Liquor Regulator Commission
 
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