The Official Hempy Bucket Thread

[Twisted pleasur]

I know this isn't the right thread but there is so much talk all the time about Newts and Lucas...Honestly how many of you are doing GH Micro and Bloom Lucas? Tried everything else out there and have never gone back to that?

I grew up in the early 90's and GH was the best thing available besides Peters or something else from HD or Ace Hardware Kmart maybe lol... I got some great numbers with that Stuff But I used to do

1micro
2grow
3bloom

There was no Lucas yet lol...

24 7... Back in the day a guru told me always be heavy on bloom even in veg. the MJ used allot of Phos... But little did I know he helped me but didn't really tell me the truth yes they do use Phos but I figured out allot of years later that Bloom was ware all the Mag was... but either way I was able to really do well.

I honestly got the Best pull of my life with it... to this day

The story was I was lucky enough we got our first place and was so far in debit that I could not have one issue. I was doing flood and drain with DIY system with a PVC stand and rain gutters and lava rocks. I would literally dump the rez and flush the whole system with ph water dump the rez and remake 1200 6.3 123 mix about every 4 days... Now that I look back it was either Mag or N they kept running out of but I didn't play and just made new. Figured it was the safest.

But later on I stopped all the flushing and all the remaking and had issues. I dint know what root rot was and all the other crap that can hurt a grow.

Now a days run off is your friend your basically flushing out the old and in with the new. But How do you guys feel about flushing along the way through out the grow?

You can do two different methods. High TDS/EC with flushes and Low TDS/EC with out any flushing with run off.

Example:

If you do lets say 800 then you can go through out the grow without any buildup with the right amount of run off. If you water enough to avoid deficiently's

But you could do 1200 probably do less watering and flush here and there...

Other wise GH could cause salt build up...

Just wondering what you guys all think? Who is doing what.

 

[Trich_Tyson]

no 3 part here, this round is V+B tap formula, last was maxibloom... maxi was hot used at 7g/gal.. I watered every couple days. had some tip burn here and there
this round.. drip system.. 2x/day.. 1 min each.. about 25 gallons/week.. 9 plants... Decent amount of runoff.. 5 gallons every few days, sucked up with shop vac.


tap ppm 450... my rez @ 1300 ppm..

no buildup issues.. I don't think.. no tip burn.

I'm running high concentration, but with less i was having deficiencies.

Gunna pull back to 500-600 ppm of nute (~1000 ppm total) for one more week then flush.

 

[Twisted pleasur]

Nice.. that is some high tap man. But if you have it Dailed then thats all the matters.
Sounds like a sound program.

Im also trying Maxi for the first time. Im running Maxi at 4.5 grams per/gal
suggested from a friend. He said the same thing did 7g for a long time and said the same thing it was too hot. Now he is doing RO with supplementing with Cal/Mag and loves it.

I treid V+B in Veg but never in bloom I could not get it Dailed for veg. But I go some help from Dans so I going to try it again
and flower with it too.

I may try some GH 3 part again for shits and giggles...
So many options so little time lol...

 

[flexy123]

I have run FloraNova Bloom as a stand alone many times in the past. It is a solid bottle fert that produces good, if not great flowers.
I used it with hempies and coco. I ran 600HPS with the FloraNova.
My suggestion would be to take the Flora bottle you have and add distilled water to reach a 1:1 ratio. So grab a larger bottle that will allow for around 2L. Maybe a bit more so you can shake the hell out of it prior to using.
I then took my diluted mix and add 10ml/1 gallon (sorry for the mix of metric and imperial).
If I was just using Flora Nova Bloom with out diluting I'd still shake the hell out of it and only add 5ml/1gallon.
Never had to PH, and used it start to finish.
Your water quality and other factors may alter how much you actually use. (led or compact fluorescent).
Hope this helps

Thanks Outgold for the tip with diluting, I heard this is a bitch to mix! (I haven't gotten my FN shipment yet so I cant say from experience)

It may work for you and some said they dilute without problems as long as it's not "plant level" diluted - but then I saw one guy who contacted GH and got the response that diluting w/ water is not recommended since it changes ph levels and would "screw things up". (I don't think diluting would "do" anything bad actually except possibly shorten shelf-life?)

While I don't have a reason to doubt that diluting works for you, I think the safest thing would be just getting another bottle and then maybe dump half in each bottle so it's easier to mix.

On the other hand, it's also not optimal to expose it to oxygen (from what I read)...so the safest thing (to ensure the FN shelf-life which is said to be one year) might just be leave it in the bottle it comes and just shake the * out of it every time before use.

** There is also some confusion since SOME folks claim FN is "organic"..while others say it is not. I don't think it is, really. (This merely because I add H202 to my nutes/water to keep off algae...so I wouldn't want to use anything organic....I do this with soil, not with my Hempies...)

 

[Jellyfish]

Hempy Buckets with the original perlite/vermiculite mix, in conjunction with General Hydroponics products applied as recommended by a thread called The Recipe have always been very successful around here.

(It's a thread started by REZDOG, and some people have posted that it's a rip-off of the KISS method. I don't know, I've never read the KISS thread.)

 

[Twisted pleasur]

Nice jelly. Im glad you brought that up..Im actually trying the Dry KoolBloom like that every two weeks or so. Looking forward to it.

Are you reusing your medium at all?

 

[Jellyfish]

Are you reusing your medium at all?

Sure you can re-use it, no problem.

 

[DoomsDay]

Been reusing medium for years. Works fine. Pour it out in a tarp and let it dry if you can, then rake through it for roots. Best way I've found to not have dead.root buildup due to reusing.

 

[Jellyfish]

Nice jelly. Im glad you brought that up..Im actually trying the Dry KoolBloom like that every two weeks or so. Looking forward to it.

Are you reusing your medium at all?

The Recipe method I used gives specific days for using the Dry KoolBloom, which I agree, is a good and useful product. :big grin:

Hempy Buckets Rule!!!

 

[Twisted pleasur]

So are you both referring to Only reusing the Vermiculite and Perlite correct?

Thanks Dooms and Jelly for the info...

 

[Trich_Tyson]

people re-use coco - no experience here.. but if ya flush/rinse it real good i don't see why not..

I think they are referring to vermiculite/ perlite

 

[CoCoSativas]

people re-use coco - no experience here.. but if ya flush/rinse it real good i don't see why not..

I think they are referring to vermiculite/ perlite

I would reuse perlite or perlite and vermiculite mix.

I used to toss my cheap coco after 1 use.

The canna i will use 3 times though follow their direction and ise the enzyme.

 

[Twisted pleasur]

Honestly Im switching from straight coco in AirPots using Cyco newts. and I have been reusing the same coco for ever with 10% run off and not one issue. I dont even get out all the roots not at all. Only 10% run off and Not one issue whats so ever.

With Cyco you use all the products in the line and they make it possible to re use it imo the vitamins and enzymes with every watering till flush. I cut back on my N in flower a bit due to the roots breaking down into usable food.

The reason Im switching to hemp's and Maxi is due being sick of all the bottles and money and water. Hoping to cut down on all of it and dialing the same results. Cyco is super clean the only thing Im really worried about but a buddy has talked me into trying it. So Im switching to give it a go.

Love the sig CS!!

 

[Trich_Tyson]

Wait. Your going coco -> perlite vermiculite?

Honda -> Hyundai. Hustlin backward

Coco where it's at. Straight coco

Or do u mean switching from airpots to hempy buckets?

 

[Twisted pleasur]

HOOOLD on... lol...

I was in straight reused a million times coco in AIRPOTS using Cyco Newts

Now Im switching to NEW COCO in HEMPY's with MaxiBloom
and a small test with VEG+BLOOM

I was asking those guys about that they are doing with VERMIC and PERILITE thats all..lol

Sorry for the confusion Trich

 

[Jellyfish]

Wait. Your going coco -> perlite vermiculite?

Honda -> Hyundai. Hustlin backward

Coco where it's at. Straight coco

Or do u mean switching from airpots to hempy buckets?

That's just like, your opinion, man.

 

[Trich_Tyson]

HOOOLD on... lol...

I was in straight reused a million times coco in AIRPOTS using Cyco Newts

Now Im switching to NEW COCO in HEMPY's with MaxiBloom
and a small test with VEG+BLOOM

I was asking those guys about that they are doing with VERMIC and PERILITE thats all..lol

Sorry for the confusion Trich

that's right..
my fault sir

edit: jelly - fact is.. it is just opinion... theres quite a few ways to skin this kitty.

 

[Dutch Quality]

It looks awesome! I always grow in soil, but I'll try this too!
Can anyone tell me something about watering the first few weeks? Does the top layer dry out quickly??

 

[Twisted pleasur]

No all good Trich...

Jelly Im going to try a few your way and check it out.. I like the idea of reusing media... I hate to buy new all the time...sux Im always ready to try anything new.

Any Advice on the PH? Does it hold well?

 

[Sluicebox]

How do I go about flushing Coco to reset it? Struggling at week 3 flower, just on the verge of getting it right. However if things get any worse I would be wanting to flush and reset right? Sorry to post this here instead of The Infirmary. Was hoping that maybe someone here had been here done that.

Do I just flush with 20% of nute strength pH'd to 5.8, 3x the volume of the container roughly? Figured that I would flush until I had the same pH in run off as I'm pouring in. I don't have a pen yet just using drops to measure pH and now I think it's costing me. I will be getting one asap.

Well water btw. Out of tap shows 0 ppm/Ec Blue Lab pen and 7 pH. I'm having to use pH down every time I mix nutes. Yet everyone else on here has to use pH up? Does that sound right?

They were transplanted into Coco from soil two weeks ago. Then they looked really over watered for a bit. I kept feeding them light Floronova Bloom rate 2 tsp, 2 tsp per 5 gal Cal mag +. pH'd to 5.8 best guess. Orange yellow no hint of green pH drops. Mix was fed at .5 Ec. Everything that wilted is showing signs of N def and being cannibalized from the bottom up. Plants started to fade all over so 2 days ago bumped up to 25 ml Floronova Bloom, 5 ml cal mag per 5 gal. That comes out to 1.4 Ec and 700 ppm. Again pH drops show orange yellow no hint of green. Green color coming back in plants, though purple stems remain. No longer wilted after feeding like before. Have been getting 30% run off every feed. 1x per day.

Room was running hot and dry mid to upper 80's F, and struggled to stay above 30%RH. I turned off one light and now running in the 70's and added home made swamp cooler now getting RH over 45-55%.

Now if this fade continues do I flush, or just bump up nutes?

This coco is Tupur and I didn't rinse it as I was told I didn't need to.

Thanks to any who read this.