The Official Hempy Bucket Thread

[Justinsane]

Hey guys!

So i got this purple Panama from Ace seeds 10 weeks into flower and i dident take any clones and now i wanna re-veg this plant after harvest...

I read up on re-veg but almost every guide is for soil growers...

i grow in 5liters coco/perlite hempy buckets where you work with a small resovoir...

Ive read that one should cut down the root mass and repot in new medium but is that the case when working with hempys?

And how often and with what shall one feed a re vegging mother in a hempy?
Im Using canna coco A+B also got Rhizotonic and Cannazym.

But my plan is like this...

Harvest my plant

Cut down the plant making it smaller, leaving leaves on lower branches and some small lower buds.

Take out the root mass from my hempy bucket and cutting it down.
Replace or clean the perlite from my resovoir
Put in new coco and place my plant in my fresh hempy bucket.

Put it under a 250w CFL under 20 hours of light.

So far i think i got it under control (i hope)

But as i said....when growing in hempy i water every day to run off with canna coco nutes @ ec 1.0-1.5 (veg and flower).

But how often shall i water the plant during re veg and how shall i use my canna coco nutes?

Justin

 

[Folate]

I've reveged numerous times, and never repotted. It may be the preferred way, but I've never seen a need.
I would cut the root ball if I needed to size down the container for putting in the 24-ish hour light schedule room/tent.
Other than that feed it light/moderate vegetative phase nutrition and you should see progress within 10 days. Weird new growth, transitioning into normal shortly thereafter.
As for watering, the revegged plant will be mildly stressed from all the aggressive "pruning" and will require less to drink. Maybe a heavy dousing of vegetative nutes when you initiate, then just follow the plants need for water/nutes.
HTH
Folate

 

[Primalraindrop]

I am almost done with a revegging experience. fall 2013 i did a hydro run in all 5inch rockwool cubes. but. my clone of sensi star died... so i decided to leave the bottom couple branches. and left the nugs on the bottom branches. I chopped the entire top off and it was FIRE. Then i put the plant/rockwool cube into a 5 gallon bucket with a hole drilled 2 inches from the bottom. and i filled it with clay pebbles to keep the rockwool near the top. then i watered it for 60 days. only water. LOTS of water. after 60 days i pulled it out. and stuck the 5inch rockwwool cube that is now in this weird veg state with nugs falling off.... craziest looking thing you ever did see. I planted it into a 5 gallon smart pot of dirt. then watered it for a month and now have transplanted it into a 20 gallon smart pot full of dirt. This transition has been incredible. but soon here i will take sensi star cuts!

 

[komboloi]

I've got kind of modified hempy thing going that I like a lot. 5 gallon buckets with drain holes about 2 inches from the bottom. Inside the buckets sit 8" rockwool cubes and on top of those 6" rockwool cubes. There is some space around the rockwool without medium, so it's not full on hempy. But: (1) it's easy to hand-water like hempy buckets with auto-draining capability; (2) it's much much much cleaner than coco, vermiculite, or perlite and will be much easier to dispose of; and (3) the plants are going nuts for it. It's at least as good as my earlier full-hempy experiment in 5 gallon buckets and loose media.

I put a premium on a tidy grow without messy media and that is clean to dispose. So far I'm liking this. Especially compared to loose-medium hempy buckets. Just too much loose material going in and coming out.

 

[Dr.RedWhite]

Way back on page 243 I mentioned trying to automate hempies and I did it. First it worked really well. I fed everyday using Jacks pro Hydro and Calnit. I never changed the res once, ran it till June with no issues as far as ferts go. I used way too much epsom salts at 1 teaspoon per gallon. It was a 27 gallon res and I filled it twice with fert total for entire flowering cycle. No real issues though. I also ran a very heavy fert dose at 1 tsp per part of Jacks and calnit. Again no issues. I did not PH once. The only real issue I think was that the Floorsweep was being broken down and ending up as a mud in the bottom of the pots. This caused my roots to be in a somewhat overly wet state. It will be discontinued and the new mix will be 4 parts perlite and 1 part peat moss. What I learned. Well I either had a somewhat off PH requiring more ferts than I should have to run or my excessive amount of epsom salts caused it. Dropping back to 1 gram per gallon of epsom salts. However the plants seemed to love it. The only leaf issues were some that were "bleached" a bit when transited from the flouros to the 600 wat HPS. My pump was a 1000 GPH 12 VDC boat sump pump run by an lawn tractor battery, timed by a deer feeder timer
and kept hot by a battery float charger. I ran the pump once just after the light came on for 6 seconds. This had just a small amount of runoff which drained back into the reservoir. My holes in the 5 quart buckets were 1 1/2 inches from the bottom with clear vinyl tubing pressed into the holes and run to the res. 1/2 inch diameter OD tubing and a 7/16 hole in the bucket makes a good tight sealed fit. I used 1/2 inch PVC to pipe the solution to the plants giving each bucket a 1/4 inch hole to get it's feed. I used a 4 way garden hose manifold but only ran 2 C shaped pieces of PVC, 6 holes in each for 12 pots. Light setup was vertical. Will buy a light mover so I can get the light to travel up and down about 2 feet. I have decided to get a good PH meter also. Each plant yielded around an ounce. I am thinking about adding a second group of pots on a shelf above the first at a level a bit higher than the pots below.

 

[coldcanna]

I've run DWC and also run coco in pots... I'm wondering has anyone here on the boards run a modified hempy bucket? I'm thinking about bumping the drain hole up to 3-4 inches off the bottom and adding an air stone to keep thing moving and fresh. I'm positive that I'm not the first person to have thought of this.

 

[komboloi]

I've run DWC and also run coco in pots... I'm wondering has anyone here on the boards run a modified hempy bucket? I'm thinking about bumping the drain hole up to 3-4 inches off the bottom and adding an air stone to keep thing moving and fresh. I'm positive that I'm not the first person to have thought of this.

Makes sense to me. I think it would work, but I doubt it would be a big improvement over a straight hempy. There is enough oxygen dissolved in water to keep the roots in the reservoir supplied for a day or so without an airstone. Then the roots get air as the reservoir is depleted.

But if you're going to go to the trouble of running an air hose, air pump, and air stone, why bother with the coco substrate? One of the benefits of the hempy bucket is simplicity, and adding all that stuff to a coco setup kind of defeats the purpose. Might be better off just running straight DWC.

I say it's worth a try. Probably want to keep an eye on the air stone to make sure it doesn't get clogged with substrate.

 

[Dr.RedWhite]

Actually a 1000GPH pump blasting solution thru a 1/4 inch hole into the media probably causes some aeration as it stands. I do run an aerator in my reservoir to keep it stirred though. I find it odd that the simplicity of hand watering is so much easier than filling a reservoir every 3-4 weeks.

 

[sahdgrower]

I've run DWC and also run coco in pots... I'm wondering has anyone here on the boards run a modified hempy bucket? I'm thinking about bumping the drain hole up to 3-4 inches off the bottom and adding an air stone to keep thing moving and fresh. I'm positive that I'm not the first person to have thought of this.

somebody has tried it although I cannot think who it was. They had a different name for the system than Hempy. I wish I could remember the thread to direct you to as I recall the person had pretty good success adding the air.

I can tell you from my experience growing once in dwc and once in hempy that the roots love the air. They seem to not love the bottom of the hempy and don't make a root mass in the bottom of the bucket like I had in dwc.

 

[coldcanna]

somebody has tried it although I cannot think who it was. They had a different name for the system than Hempy. I wish I could remember the thread to direct you to as I recall the person had pretty good success adding the air.

I can tell you from my experience growing once in dwc and once in hempy that the roots love the air. They seem to not love the bottom of the hempy and don't make a root mass in the bottom of the bucket like I had in dwc.

This is kind of my thought as well, I personally haven't seen anybody in person or online that can match the growth rates of DWC using coco substrate, I know its better than soil and people choose it for simplicity but numbers don't lie. Just wondering if a more advanced hybrid system could go further to bridge the gap.

 

[Dr.RedWhite]

I am testing a recirculating Hempy set up 2 buckets using the classic coco with a layer of perlite up to the hole and 2 perlite only Hempy's. Presently the perlite only buckets are well ahead of the coco ones. I really hate mixing mediums so I thought straight perlite or coco would make life a bit easier.

 

[Corytrevor]

Root health

Root health

Hey all. New to the forums and have a quick question. If I'm correct in understanding, the bottom two inches or so of your bucket(the space below the drainage hole) acts as a reservoir. So in this setup what prevents roots from growing to the bottom and rotting out ?

 

[RetroGrow]

Read the thread. At least the basics.

 

[supreme bean]

i just started doing my seeds in a mini hempy w/perlite.

 

[hempchimp]

So far what I have seen from my hempy grows the roots seem to like it better above the rez.I am trying one with a airstone and also trying just straight perlite. They all seem to be going about the same speed. My main method is coco mix with perlite,perlite bottom jacks 2 part nutes. Grow on brotha!!

 

[RetroGrow]

Coco beats perlite easily. Replace rez daily by watering to run off every day, at least once. Brings freshly oxygenated water to roots.

 

[Cannabis]

The fact that the plants drink the water in the standing water column in the pot bottom

to the point the entire area's filled with atmospheric air;

so there is atmospheric level oxygen around the root zone.

They do grow down in there, some.

Just not to as great degree

as in that water rich area,

just above the surface of the water table, @ refill.

The high surface area able to be penetrated by atmospheric concentrations of oxygen gas, means pythium which lives in water with low, free oxygen levels,

can't start generating colonies of fungus.

Hey all. New to the forums and have a quick question. If I'm correct in understanding, the bottom two inches or so of your bucket(the space below the drainage hole) acts as a reservoir. So in this setup what prevents roots from growing to the bottom and rotting out ?

 

[murmann]

wow... read whole thread. all 263 pages. gonna go to local garden centers and check prices for coco and nutes.
currently grow with pro mix and gh nutes.
funny thing is, years ago I bought a few pots with a hole in the side. 2" from bottom. thing is they have an insert that keeps the medium above the hole, creating a rez, roots grow thru slits in insert into rez. wish I could add pics, but, not enuf posts on my part to use functions. they are called Bemis nurturing planter.
guess i'll go read up on coco and give it a go. got some big bud #2 beans free from herbies so I will use them to practice with.
thanks everyone who posted on this loooooong thread

 

[RetroGrow]

wow... read whole thread. all 263 pages. gonna go to local garden centers and check prices for coco and nutes.
currently grow with pro mix and gh nutes.
funny thing is, years ago I bought a few pots with a hole in the side. 2" from bottom. thing is they have an insert that keeps the medium above the hole, creating a rez, roots grow thru slits in insert into rez. wish I could add pics, but, not enuf posts on my part to use functions. they are called Bemis nurturing planter.
guess i'll go read up on coco and give it a go. got some big bud #2 beans free from herbies so I will use them to practice with.
thanks everyone who posted on this loooooong thread

Read these threads:
Coco Hempy Style:
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=147954

K.I.S.S.
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=191645

Best brands of coco:
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=175245

Everything you need to know is there. Simple and fool proof. Get bagged, premium coco, like Canna to eliminate problems.

 

[MaynardG_Krebs]

wow... read whole thread. all 263 pages. gonna go to local garden centers and check prices for coco and nutes.
currently grow with pro mix and gh nutes.
funny thing is, years ago I bought a few pots with a hole in the side. 2" from bottom. thing is they have an insert that keeps the medium above the hole, creating a rez, roots grow thru slits in insert into rez. wish I could add pics, but, not enuf posts on my part to use functions. they are called Bemis nurturing planter.
guess i'll go read up on coco and give it a go. got some big bud #2 beans free from herbies so I will use them to practice with.
thanks everyone who posted on this loooooong thread

It's a game changer.. so easy... so smart.. I could go on, but I wont.. Jump in, you'll love it..

mgk