The NRA (National Rifle Association)

[Uncle Jesse]

Gun safety and constatutional rights . Pro NRA I am.

Gun safety and constatutional rights . Pro NRA I am.

THE TEN COMMANDMENTS OF GUN SAFETY

Guns are not toys, they must be handled properly.
NEVER handle a gun without adult supervision.
NEVER let anyone you are with mix alcohol, or drugs and guns.
ALWAYS follow these IMPORTANT safety rules:

1. Always keep the muzzle pointed in a safe direction.
2. Guns should be unloaded when not actually in use.
3. Don't rely on your gun's "safety". Treat every gun as if it can fire at any time.
4. Be sure of your target and what's beyond it.
5. Use correct ammunition.
6. If your gun fails to fire when the trigger is pulled, HANDLE WITH CARE. Keep the muzzle pointed in a safe direction and get adult help.
7. Always wear eye and ear protection when shooting.
8. Be sure the barrel is clear of obstructions before shooting.
9. Don't alter or modify your gun, and DO have your gun serviced regularly.
10. Learn the mechanical and handling characteristics of the firearm you are using. Do not use any firearm that you have not had adult instruction in handling.

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"To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them." (Richard Henry Lee, Virginia delegate to the Continental Congress, initiator of the Declaration of Independence, and member of the first Senate, which passed the Bill of Rights.)

"The great object is that every man be armed . . . Everyone who is able may have a gun." (Patrick Henry, in the Virginia Convention on the ratification of the Constitution.)

"The advantage of being armed . . . the Americans possess over the people of all other nations . . . Notwithstanding the military establishments in the several Kingdoms of Europe, which are carried as far as the public resources will bear, the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms." (James Madison, author of the Bill of Rights, in his Federalist Paper No. 46.)

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed." (Second Amendment to the Constitution.)

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

I agree with everything you printed jesse... Except that none of it has anything to do with being pro-NRA... I am ABSOLUTELY PRO-GUN OWNERSHIP, and I am ABSOLUTELY AGAINST THE NRA's POLITICAL AGENDA.

I find it absurd that people think the NRA is about freedom... The politics they push have robbed the american people of the majority of our freedoms and rights... If they keep supporting the same agenda, then after the rest of the freedoms are gone, They won't have any way to stop them from taking the guns...

It's kinda like the reality show 'Survivor'...
Those in power always promise everyone that they'll be the last to go, to secure they're loyalty and their vote... but as soon as enough of their agenda has been accomplished to become comfortable, they cut loose those they were using...

Same thing with the Government eroding our freedoms... If you help them because they allowed you to hold your gun while they stole your freedom, you'll find yourself with no freedom or gun in the end...

 

[Mr. Nevermind]

"To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them." (Richard Henry Lee, Virginia delegate to the Continental Congress, initiator of the Declaration of Independence, and member of the first Senate, which passed the Bill of Rights.)

"The great object is that every man be armed . . . Everyone who is able may have a gun." (Patrick Henry, in the Virginia Convention on the ratification of the Constitution.)

"The advantage of being armed . . . the Americans possess over the people of all other nations . . . Notwithstanding the military establishments in the several Kingdoms of Europe, which are carried as far as the public resources will bear, the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms." (James Madison, author of the Bill of Rights, in his Federalist Paper No. 46.)

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed." (Second Amendment to the Constitution.)



No offense dude, but what have these "militias" done to protect liberty in the last 100 years? I mean where was this militia at to protect liberty when Bush threw Habeas corpus out the window? Where was the militia when Bush decided to listen to phone calls of US citizens without a warrant?

For all this talk of 2nd amendment and the right to bear arms what are yall doing with them? Cuz you damn sure aint defending liberty with them. Sounds like a waste of time to me. How many of you are even in a Militia? Quick to throw 2nd amendment up but not even in a militia.

How many of you are trained to use a fire arm? You can buy a gun anywhere but still cant use em. Look at the VA tech shooting. Quick access to a gun but couldnt fire to save his ass, just mowed an area down. Somethign wrong with people being able to get a tool that can kill people and not have proper training reqiured at time of purchase. Cant get a drivers license without drivers ed as a kid, but you can get a gun when you are 18 without having fired a day in your life.

Whole thing is a joke. For home defense , get a shotgun. Thats all ya need. But the need to get an AR-15 or an M16 or a 50 cal rifle is silly. No need for it. If you want to defend your home a shotgun is all you need. It will take anyone out and you dont need to aim that well. Most people dont realize that you need to actually aim a weapon and to hit a moving object aint that easy unless trained.


Why the **** are we even talking about the constitution anyway? its a bullshit document written by hypocrite rednecks. These peopel talking about rights of the people meanwhile blacks were 3/5's of a person and slaves to the founding fathers. if they were alive today they would be in the braught up on charges for crimes against humanity , and we treat em as saints. really sad








Nevermind

 

[Luther Budbank]

Put me in the pro NRA column. It makes no sense to punish law-abiding gun owners for the actions of criminals. The best way to lessen gun violence is to reform the drug laws. Then people will stop killing each other and innocent bystanders over protecting their turf and collecting money.

 

[Pops]

For all of who cling to the fantasy that we are an unformed militia that has the right to oppose the U.S. Government,let me give you a piece of info to chew on. Section 8 of Article 1 of the Constitution gives the federal government the right to "provide for calling forth the militia(army) to execute the laws of the union,SUPPRESS INSURRECTIONS and repel invasions. It also says that "The privilege of the writ of habeas corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in cases of REBELLION or invasion the public safety may require it."

If we really believe that our hunting weapons are going to be able to withstand the armed might of the U.S. Army, we have been smoking a little too much weed. Our only hope, in that situation, would be that our fellow Americans in the military would join us in the insurrection.

I agree with many of you in wanting to keep the right to maintain arms, but only because I don't want to lose any rights,including this one, to the federal government.

 

[toohighmf]

tell me, copy and paste, google.. aNYTHING....

tell me, copy and paste, google.. aNYTHING....

The NRA does in fact have you thinking someone is trying to take your gun... Show me the evidence they're right...

You're right I guess, some folks want to be told what to believe... Some folks will try to find out the truth and believe that... Some folks just won't care...

The profit from forfeiture as evidence they want to take your gun? That's crazy... Where's the profit in taking your gun? That's no sort of evidence for your point whatsoever, quite the opposite if you think for a moment...

*The NRA has done more harm than good, Intentional or not.
(ELABORATE W FACT PLEASE)
*The NRA is not necessary to maintain gun ownership rights, The gun companies won't be without lobbiest to watch over their political interest...

(Of course the NRA is not neccasary! either is MPP or Norml.. in fact N.O.R.M.L might be more responsible for the reasons why MJ is not legal.. look at the organization... a bunch of burnouts! dont mean I dont support em every year) But every little bit helps man. that is the bigger picture I am trying to paint for you..

Morality demanded that I quit supporting any organization which would support war crimes, which they did... Sorry, I have to take the high ground... There are alot of things more important than keeping guns available to anyone who can walk into Wal-Mart...

War crimes? again, facts please! If your in a town where wal mart is the cool hang out, or place to be, perhaps firearms shouldnt be sold there! lol!

I support a lot of organizations I dont really believe in.. As a hydro shop owner, I want the police and the republicans to be on my side, so I donated $200 to the republicans small business advisory counsel.. which I am now the "Honorary chairman" complete with a wooden gavel and a pic of G-dubbya.. no the pic wasnt posted in the store,(we drew him a cowboy mustache and a goatee and wrote "BLEED FOR ME" in a bubble and put it under the cash register as to wipe my cash in his face but the gavel was left on the counter, and when I had problems I called my Senior correspondent Mr. Reynolds. (R) representive for CA. and got the cops off my back, the illegals deported or arrested and business was good. Then I joined the BBB. Can you imagine what $275 did there? not a whole lot of nothin, but when you check my corps Dunn & Bradstreet score, and see my affiliations, I look like someone doing good business and doing what they should to protect and promote that business.

My, point is.. prove yours please. Do you support MPP or NORML? Why?
Are they really doing anything? (well MPP is) I'll give em that much; as is Americans for safe Access. donate to them?


just interested in your opinion and if you have factual information to back your claims. To say NRA does nothing to help retain gun rights, I'd say your out of your head... To say they are uneccasary is an opinion. to say they blatantly were involved in War Crimes, you better have documented proof that I would love to read. great debate man! I look forward to your response!

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

War crimes? again, facts please! If your in a town where wal mart is the cool hang out, or place to be, perhaps firearms shouldnt be sold there! lol!

Yes... They fully supported a candidate who was in the process of committing war crimes... preemptively invading a sovereign nation under pretenses which had by that time been proven false. Killing innocent people for profit is fairly evil last time I checked... And to support that to the extent of sending out letters lying about democratic candidates, is participation in the war crimes... More harm than good Indeed... If a fraction of those they sent letters out bough into the bullshit and voted bush, then they could be held responsible for his narrow less than 1% win...

I support a lot of organizations I dont really believe in.. As a hydro shop owner, I want the police and the republicans to be on my side, so I donated $200 to the republicans small business advisory counsel.. which I am now the "Honorary chairman" complete with a wooden gavel and a pic of G-dubbya.. no the pic wasnt posted in the store,(we drew him a cowboy mustache and a goatee and wrote "BLEED FOR ME" in a bubble and put it under the cash register as to wipe my cash in his face but the gavel was left on the counter, and when I had problems I called my Senior correspondent Mr. Reynolds. (R) representive for CA. and got the cops off my back, the illegals deported or arrested and business was good. Then I joined the BBB. Can you imagine what $275 did there? not a whole lot of nothin, but when you check my corps Dunn & Bradstreet score, and see my affiliations, I look like someone doing good business and doing what they should to protect and promote that business.

My, point is.. prove yours please. Do you support MPP or NORML? Why?
Are they really doing anything? (well MPP is) I'll give em that much; as is Americans for safe Access. donate to them?

Because the federal goverment is ACTUALLY taking peoples medicine and LOCKING PEOPLE UP over growing a plant...

When someone is ACTUALLY trying to take anyone's gun, maybe the NRA would be comparable to these other organizations... But you're comparing APPLES and ORANGES, my friend...

just interested in your opinion and if you have factual information to back your claims. To say NRA does nothing to help retain gun rights, I'd say your out of your head... To say they are uneccasary is an opinion. to say they blatantly were involved in War Crimes, you better have documented proof that I would love to read. great debate man! I look forward to your response!

All done...

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

Hahaha... I just read where you donated to support the killing as well, just to make your business look good... Nice sell out...

 

[delta9thc06]

Im also a lifetime member of the NRA.

 

[toohighmf]

how hippy of you

how hippy of you

Man, you angry deadheads scare me! you sound so tough. maybe its your post count that makes you so cocky. Do you buy gasoline? If so your contributing to terrorism.. deadhead w an attitude. go tape something!

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

Not angry... no attitude... just realism...

Buying gas, is a bit different from a donation, btw... You gave money and personal support specifically to the party responsible in order to help them further their agenda... You did it only to make your business look a little more normal...

You tried to call me out here, and I answered you...
Don't try to play the victim of the angry hippie... I gave you what you asked for...

The attempted distraction in your post in place of an actual rebuttal leads me to think you've conceded the point...

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

I'm not going to argue this anymore... I've put the truth out there, those who care enough can research it, and come to their own conclusions...

I 100% support gun ownership rights...
I formerly supported the NRA, but can no longer do so in good conscience...

Peace and Love and happy shooting....

 

[muddy waters]

rather be a hippie than a hypocrite

 

[toohighmf]

you callin me a hypocrite?

you callin me a hypocrite?

how exactly am I a hypocrite? Who are you to judge me for donating money to the very people that protect my business and my constitutional rights?, and I'm a hypocrite.. I might be new around here, but I am in no way shape or form new. I have never been to a forum that had so many rude, "my way or the highway" attitudes. Then the troll factor is amazing. I see little cliques of jaggoffs constantly stirring poop w new members who have been to develope new relatioships w fellow peeps that have a very special sacred love for a plant to bring us at ease. It would seem some of you need to either grow better weed or smoke more of what you got because most of need to chill.
Just because I came from the AN forums doesnt make me an instant A-hole. I dont have to be here at all. I dont have to come and try to help noobs, or discuss politics, share my grows, my guns for cryin outloud to be criticized for every thing I do. Loosen up.. Anyone enjoy my toys?

 

[El Loco Smoko]

Militias are live and well in the pacific northwest.Google project 7.They have gotten bad press since Timothy Mcveigh.Some of them are plumb nuts,like project 7, but the gov. has made them all out to be evil.Not so, just spin done by the pros.I knew alot of good people who went under ground after the nuts did their thing, but they're not out of the game, by a long shot.Think Randy Weaver.

 

[Pops]

Toohigh, you were the first to get a little nasty by telling H3ad that he was out of his head. We welcome you folks from AN, but you have to realize that this is a different forum with a different bunch of loonies. You say that you enjoy and look forward to debate, but gt a little pissy when folks disagree with you.

We have a diverse group here who hold a lot of different views. Some of us love to discuss stuff. Others think we are argumentative. Still others think we are retards. Stick around and get to know us. You can teach us stuff and maybe we can teach you stuff. We are not as bad as you think. I have noticed that a few of you AN folks think you are doing us a favor by coming here. You might be pleased to know that we have quite a few pretty decent growers here already. Why don't we share knowledge instead of anger.

 

[toohighmf]

I know

I know

good growers brought me here. I'm still droppin a post or 2. hangin, readin. with 25,000 members, I would certainly imagine theres a few people who know what their doing. I believe I only got defensive after being called a war supporter and a hypocrite. enjoy your forums! If were not doin you guys any favors by joining and building up your membership, buyin seed, or other merch. Why dont you guys just close down registration. I would hate to be a burden with so much on your plates! maybe i'll stick around and learn the secret handshake, or go where my knowledge actually helps someone and is happy to have me.

 

[PhenoMenal]

People dont kill people. Guns kill people.

 

[usa]

Senate Panel Sends Brady Expansion Bill To The Floor
-- Once again, measure is passed by an unrecorded voice vote!

http://www.gunowners.org/a080807.htm

"[The NRA's] blessing is required for any bill that enforces or
creates gun laws." -- Rep. Carolyn McCarthy, July 27, 2007

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

He said bullshit document and hypocritical rednecks... not hypocritical document...