The New & Improved [ROLS MEGATHREAD].

[Gascanastan]

Coba - if you like mushrooms and hearing things that aren't there....then falling into a dream state and waking up a different person, then you'd probably like this herb - OMG guys - my 12 week sample kicked my ASS, I'm talking two or three hits and shazaam where's my space helmet??

This is going to take some acclimating too LOL - the kind of smoke that'll leave amateurs curled in a ball in the corner asking for their binky - not exaggerating.... I had no idea...

.Thai Sativa - where've you been all my life?

Love those Thai's and African's....

I'm afraid I may never go back to a pure indica other than for crossing into sativa's to get the sativa effect in a modern day flowering range...

All I want is this crazy old no-ceiling stuff. I smoke something popular and laugh....only to find myself climbing back in the BO x NL#5/Haze jar more often than other types.
Kush this Kush that...no thanks....well maybe before bed when I'm already half asleep and don't need to be high.

Then again you must ask yourself if you'd rather be high or stoned~

 

[ClackamasCootz]

Why did the 90's and 00's have to happen to cannabis?

BJW

A combination of several factors: greed, chutzpah, hubris, general ignorance, major dysfunction and datfunction - but mostly greed.

CC

 

[YosemiteSam]

invocation

Well - I guess this is as good a place as any to post this...

I purchased a full bag of diastatic malt which is the version with the highest levels of enzymes in the barley malt arena vs. non-diastatic malt which are the flavored malts. No enzymes but the endosperm is roasted at different temperatures and for different times depending on what they're wanting to achieve. The simple sugars in the endosperm are converted to Maltose which you've probably seen on food labels.

The malt came from a large 'malt house' as they're known as and this one is Great Western Malting which is 80 years old and they have 2 malt houses in the US - Vancouver, Washington & Pocatello, Idaho and 10 regional sales & distribution operations around the country.

They produce malts for the distilling, brewing & food industries (the Maltose deal). They even do an organic line.

I gave 10 lb. bags to 5 people that were interested. They all had been doing the sprouting a seed process and this went far beyond growing MMJ. Plants included tomatoes, peppers, flowering plants, mints, etc. These were all greenhouse set-ups.

The results and comments were all the same as my observations: there was no measurable difference in the results. Having said that I did not ask about MMJ nor did anyone offer any comments so I only have my experience using the powder vs. v2.0 with the same strain from the same mother plant.

I ran diastatic malt on one plant and the SST v2.0 on the other. They looked like that they will be done by tomorrow or perhaps Thursday. The changes were identical in every respect.

I learned that malt houses have to use strict procedures to insure the same results. Imagine the repercussions from a bad batch hitting a national brewer or even in the home brewing circle.

The price that I paid at a brewing store was $75.00 which may or may not be fair. It probably is not. A single pound at the same store was $3.00 so they aren't doing anyone any great deals.

The amount that I used through the entire cycle was 1 tablespoon which is 'close enough' to 1/2 oz. or at least close enough to figure out an application cost. A pound would give you 32 tablespoons making 32 gallons. Even at the single-pound price, your cost is below $.10 per gallon.

So that's buying it at a brew store but there's a better way to get your hand on this malt version - food-service companies. In the sector for bakeries they sell a 10 lb. pack which lists for $19.99 and companies like Sysco, Monarch Foods, Shamrock Foods, Food Services of America and other regional players will either stock it or can get it with a special order. There is also a baking supplier, Bake Mark, which is national so they would always carry this malt. It's pretty standard in the artisan and high-end baking world.

There you go......

CC

That is exactly what my lazy ass has been doing but afraid to say out loud. The local home brew store gets it for me and even mills it. Results have been fantastic and it could not be simpler. They even went to the trouble of finding the highest enzyme count they could for me...somehow they knew what I might be up to.

 

[ClackamasCootz]

YosemiteSam

You make the total number of testers up to 6 now - not counting myself.

 

[YosemiteSam]

BJW

A combination of several factors: greed, chutzpah, hubris, general ignorance, major dysfunction and datfunction - but mostly greed.

CC

I think part of it is pure generational...if you grow up with 1000 cable stations, video games, cell phones, internet sometimes you might just want to chill and shut it all out.

I am with HST though...it can't quite be weird enough for me. I know it is wrong on some level...but I have been smoking pure sativa bho. Don't plan on trying to go anywhere.

 

[Gascanastan]

I've had good results w/the powder...easier than the seed teas.
There is something holistic and 'hippie' about going through the craft of sprouting and making your own enzyme teas from Tibetan purple barley though....I guess you could grow yer hair long,be barefoot,and still get your hands dirty either way....

 

[ClackamasCootz]

But what's really sad is it never got weird enough for me. I moved to the country when the boat got too crowded. Then I learned that President Nixon had been eaten by white cannibals on an island near Tijuana for no good reason at all.

Golly, you hear a lot of savage and unnatural things about people these days. Lazlo and Nixon are both gone now, but I don't think I'm going to believe that 'til I can gnaw on their skulls with my very own teeth. Fuck those people, huh? If they're out there, I'm going to find them, and I'm going to gnaw on their skulls because it still hasn't gotten weird enough for me

Gonzo

 

[shmalphy]

I've had good results w/the powder...easier than the seed teas.
There is something holistic and 'hippie' about going through the craft of sprouting and making your own enzyme teas from Tibetan purple barley though....I guess you could grow yer hair long,be barefoot,and still get your hands dirty either way....

I am working on growing hull-less (not purple) barley in a used no till ROLS pot... Can't beat farm sourced materials...

Plus I tried a dandelion seed sprout tea (old style) I plan to apply that tonight. I figure if nothing else, it has BIM that are evolved to live symbiotically with fast growing "weeds", which is something I always look for.

It is great having a source to buy things in case you need to, but from a sustainability perspective, the more you can source things locally, that are less processed, the better. I try to eliminate outside inputs whenever possible.

 

[ClackamasCootz]

shmalphy

Aren't you a homebrew guy? If so are any of these commercial malt names familiar to you?

• Crystal C15
• Crystal C30
• Crystal C40
• Crystal C60
• Crystal C75
• Crystal C120
• Crystal C150

CC

 

[Heliopolis]

I'm definitely going to pick up some diastatic malt and give it a test run. Sounds like a good deal.

Then again you must ask yourself if you'd rather be high or stoned~

Due to dealing with anxiety and insomnia, I feel like I need something to numb them. But, I also like taking my mind to new and better places. It's a trip for sure; just trying to find my way through life's maze.

 

[xmobotx]

Can anyone identify this plant? Grows rampant around me in the north east. Might be another good addition to the compost. Nettles are up too. I'll try and get a pic of those later

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idk what that plant is but i speculate that plants of similar habits may have similar benefits in compost or a s FPE

CC thanks for posting about the malt.

I asked before but will again are aloe and coconut water a good alternative to sprouted teas? Now that i know about the malt though i might give that a try.

Also 2 days ago i sprayed my veg plants with CC's cilantro tea mix for mites and i added a bit of coconut water too. I have lots of white spots on the leaves now from the coconut water should i just leave them be or give them a plan water wash afterwards? The leaves really did perk up after i sprayed them down.

aloe/coconu/SST ~i like to mix it up {diversity!} but the enzymes are what you are after here
though w/ coconut water & aloe there is a fertilizer component ~i bet the diastatic malt and SST 2.0 bring a fertilizer component to the table as well

sure; rinse it w/ a plain water spray

w/ foliars be mindful that you have good circulation and read your plant ~i have seen that too much can be a little rough on the plants but; i gather you are wondering about rinsing it off the next day ~which is what i would do

 

[ClackamasCootz]

I wouldn't be spraying coconut water on a plant. Put it into the soil.

Always spray at the end of the day on outdoor plants and at the end of the light-cycle on your indoor plants.

Spraying during midday is a recipe for a disaster depending on the content of the foliar spray.

CC

 

[VerdantGreen]

coot, ive been very curious about the SST but not really able to to go through the sprouting seed process etc - so thanks for the info about the powder

is this the stuff?
http://bakerybits.co.uk/Diax-Diastatic-Malt-Flour-P778641.aspx

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Old headbanger, do they get quite big? like a shrub? it looks like Cherry Laurel to me.

VG

 

[ClackamasCootz]

That's it!

 

[VerdantGreen]

thanks again coot.

do you have to make a paste out of it to disperse in the water or does it dissolve?

 

[ClackamasCootz]

You need to agitate it vigorously but nothing goofy. You will see sediment because that powder is simply sprouted, dried and ground barley seeds.

You could strain this with a fine screen if you wanted and put the sediment around your plants outdoors and better yet would be to add them to a worm bin.

 

[Gascanastan]

I've been aerating everything..the aeration/agitation disperses the particles of whatever you add throughout the vessel....and also tends to keep anaerobic bacteria at bay.

 

[BlueJayWay]

I'm an airhead too.

 

[ClackamasCootz]

Bone-head here...

 

[xmobotx]

i do more of a boxing thing/the only thing aerating is my compost tea

but i shake stuff up and pour it from container to container and back to get a little air in there ~you know for that mix and use stuff