The Mill's Pride Club

[simon]

Word?!
14# EACH?!
Do you have a grow thread or more info on your operation?
That is super impressive.
I just started a my first cabinet grow and am always looking for some inspiration.

I'm not much for starting threads, but I did post a punch of pics back on OG. Two things are necessary for good yield inside the boxes - a well-executed growroom and high-yielding moms. I run 600HPS' inside my boxes and use moms that have consistently delivered quality yield.

I'm always on the lookout for new moms, so I periodically run packs of seeds to see if I can better what I have. ATM, I have a 10-pack of FMS Grapefruit in the wings that'll be sprouted in ~4 weeks. Even though I have a Grapefruit mom, I want to see if I can do better.

With unknown seeds, I usually average 10-12oz (dry/cured) per box.

 

[simon]

hey simon,

what do you think about my plan to use the (4) 2" OD PVC elbows that I already installed in the floor - with foresight to the placement of my (6) DWC buckets - plus a couple of the 4" round darkroom louvers?

If your ambient temps aren't very high, you should be OK. Worst comers to worst, you could always install a 8x8 louver later on in the sidewall of the box.

I was thinking that I would put either 2 or three of them in the back wall but I suppose I could put one in the back wall and one each on the sides if you think this would be better?

I'd suggest placing the intakes in such a way that would allow the most air to be drawn across/through the garden.

the ventilation fan is a 265cfm dayton and the light will be a 400 watt hps with both the fan and the ballast in the space above the grow area.

will this work in your opinion?

There's no reason why you wouldn't do well, other than having to keep the plants small due to a height restriction. Are you planning on training the plants?

 

[simon]

Simon- Would 3 8x8 louvers be overkill for a c13? Im asking because I still have a lot of suction on my doors (to much). I know you do those lil equations with the space that will tell you the exact answer Im looking for. I currently have 2 (what you recommended me at og). My ladyz butt up right against the louvers when I pack the shit out of my room (reduce intake). I jus think that a 3rd one right above the two might help out a lil with a powerdy mildew prob I have.

Can you give me a few more details about your room? What fan are you running, which light, type of reflector, is the fan blowing through a scrubber, etc?

 

[sumo]

I'm always on the lookout for new moms, so I periodically run packs of seeds to see if I can better what I have. ATM, I have a 10-pack of FMS Grapefruit in the wings that'll be sprouted in ~4 weeks. Even though I have a Grapefruit mom, I want to see if I can do better.

So when you find a winner what do you do reveg the plant? That is what would get me into cloning. If I finally found that plant that demands to be revegged. Then of course my lazy ass would have to build a veg box which I don't want to do.

 

[simon]

So when you find a winner what do you do reveg the plant?

For whatever reason, I've had mixed success with revegging - sometimes it works well and sometimes it doesn't. I usually take clones a few days before flowering. As I LST, the first two nodes end up as clones. They keep in stasis up to 12 weeks in a cold crisper.

 

[sugabear_II]

If your ambient temps aren't very high, you should be OK.

68 F or lower if need be - I've got central a/c forced air heat in the room.

I'd suggest placing the intakes in such a way that would allow the most air to be drawn across/through the garden.

so I've got four on the floor running down the middle - I'll add the the 4" dark room louvers in such a way to keep air flowing across the plants. I'll also have 2-3 fans circulating the air.

There's no reason why you wouldn't do well, other than having to keep the plants small due to a height restriction. Are you planning on training the plants?

I'll probably do some modular slanted scrog systems. I'll slant the pair of plants on each side and flat scrog the middle two for a half pipe of sorts. I usally flower small so things shouldn't finish too big - growing in dwc as I do the plants naturally bush out with lots of side shoots.

Simon thanks for your input you seem to have things dailed in your setup - are they c-22's, c-13's, or c-25's - I imagine with the 600 you're using the c-22.

sumo - I have had lots of success with taking clones from flowering plants. Usually it's because I'm running some new things from seed and so I don't know sex until a couple weeks in 12/12. so when I determine sex I toss the males and take clones off of the lower shoots on the females that I would normally remove anyways. In fact I find that cloning a flowering plant around 2 weeks into 12/12 gives a higher success rate then cloning a vegging plant because the long little shoots that come out when stretch starts tend to be less woody and with less nitrogen they root faster. I also have in a pinch cloned a plant at 7 weeks into flower w/o an issue. Sativa doms work better than indicas. I had to do this last round when I lost my trainwreck mom and my other oregon90 indica mom due to a veg cab failure. The oregon90 indica was the hardest plant I ever tried to clone in normal circumstances so I'm not suprised I couldn't get one off the flowering plant. However the trainwreck cloned w/o a problem - again it's important to have a few small under developed shoots to take and sativa doms like the trainwreck or this nl99 I grew usually keep putting out little shoots even late in flower. So I took two clones and both rooted - in about two weeks roots were outta the bottom of the RW cubes - another two weeks and growth returned to normal. check out the cheap ass wick cloner in my signature. It's perfect for this kinda thing - just take a few clones of the flowering plant you want to keep going and toss them somewhere under a 20 watt daylight (6400K) CFL and check and refill the bottom after a week as needed. leave them alone - you'll be suprised in 2 weeks you'll have some slightly yellowing rooted clones but they can be thrown into DWC or soil and in a week or two at most you'll have a normal looking mom. You can also leave them in the wick cloner and just add ferts to the bottom and keep them for another week or so - with the lid off - you'll need to refill the res twice a week, but again the maintence is really low IMHO opinion.


-suga

 

[mysta177]

Can you give me a few more details about your room? What fan are you running, which light, type of reflector, is the fan blowing through a scrubber, etc?

Im in a c13 running a fantech 392cfm 6 in. The light im using is a super sun and has a 4 in air cool ref. You told me to get rid of the 6-4in reducer so I did. I split the 6in duct to pull 1/2 from the reflector and half from under the light (man I love duct tape). The fan is pushing thru my scrubber.
My c13

to the attic with a carbon scrubber on top

carbon scrub

split the duct to pull from inside the hood and under the light. Dropped my temps 6 deg.

 

[ft100]

glad to see simon back on the boards. remember back in the og days he helped a bunch. peace and smoke bro.

 

[mysta177]

Ohhh yea....it is a good day to have the knowledge of a expert back. Just look at the questions hes being asked already. AND HE RESPONDS TRUTHFULLY. I just hope ALL THE trolls from OG the didnt like the truth stayed behind. I especially like the one that said I pulled over a pound of dried bud from the c13. All simon did was some math and basically showed them it wasnt possible. Oh yea I remember.

 

[sugabear_II]

well here we are (sorta)

well here we are (sorta)

Well for the most part the cabinet is assembled. I got the fan in there and the scrubber. and the power strip (one up top) and then another going into the lower section for circulating fans.

Right now the air flow is through four 2" intakes running down the center of the floor then through the scrubber into the top section and then into the blower and just out of the back. I'm happy with the scrubber position for the time being, but may consider moving it to the top section or even just hanging it off the back as a blow through filter.

the darkroom louvers arrived today and I'll be adding them soon. Right now the fan is pulling so hard I need two hands to open the doors and I have to brace my foot against the cabinet to avoid pulling the whole thing down on me - so I know I need more intakes for sure - just didn't have a chance to put them in yet.

There are 2 air pumps on the dresser next to the cabinet that have air lines running into the cabinet - this way they pump the 68 degree ambient air into the buckets as opposed to the warmer air in the upper section of the cabinet.

I'm still waiting on my 400 hps - should arrive on Monday. In the mean time I have my old faithful 150 watt hps in there - the ballast is above in a 4" junction box.


Right now I have 4 plants in there;

the two bushy ones on the right are a cross I made myself of a super potent indica called oregon90 and reeferman's burmese pure - these were vegged for around 2.5 weeks and they have now been in flower under the 150 for 21 days or so.

The other two plants are woodhorse trainwreck from clone, one had been in flower about 2 weeks and is already budding up nicely.

the other small trainwreck is also from clone but just started 12/12 a few days ago.

I also have two seedlings of my last burmese pure seeds in veg about 2.5 weeks now - they'll be going into flower next week.

Gotta add some scrog screens to support these plants soon as DWC just doesn't give them much to hang on to. I've just been soo darned busy setting up this cabinet. oh and I gotta get the back panel covered in mylar or at least painted reflective white. If I get too lazy I'm just going to cut a piece of the white cardboard back that came with the cabinet and put that in there.

anyways I'm just happy to have it up and running - these plants were too big for my other cabinet and I was down to the wire to get this ready.

The seedlings were also getting too big for my small veg cabinet so I'm now happy that I can use the my old flower cabinet (u-2) as a veg cabinet.

so again thanks to simon and those other folks who provided advice.

So now do I get to be a double (u-2 and c-25) cabinet member of the mills pride club?

suga

 

[ARTofMAKINGfire]

Abbie - HELLO!!! A fellow Maliboo student! Do you have any Stardust 13?

 

[ARTofMAKINGfire]

HEY sumo! What's up? Remember me?

 

[ARTofMAKINGfire]

SOrry for the multipost I AM PHYCHED I FOUND THIS THREAD

 

[Guest]

What do you guys use to keep your water temps down? I want to do 4 plants in this single 22 gal rubbermade. it fits so cleanly in the c24.

is there a formula for how much ice it takes to cool however many gallons?

Anyone that does DWC please chime in and tell me what your temps are.

 

[sugabear_II]

st0n3r - I don't measure the temps in my res so I don't know what they are but my plants do well - 2 recommendations;

1. air pumps outside the grow space - keeps them pumping cooler air then what's in the cabinet
2. hygrozyme

-suga

 

[sumo]

HEY sumo! What's up? Remember me?

Yes. Didn't you cut your finger off taking clones once? Hope all is well. I missed abbie doobie. Did he change his name? PM me . Just want to be up on the shit.

 

[ARTofMAKINGfire]

LOL. No never cut my finger.
But I might when I send out those Stardust 13 clones....

 

[simon]

Im in a c13 running a fantech 392cfm 6 in. The light im using is a super sun and has a 4 in air cool ref. You told me to get rid of the 6-4in reducer so I did. I split the 6in duct to pull 1/2 from the reflector and half from under the light (man I love duct tape).

It's a very nice setup. How are the temps relative to ambient?

The fan is pushing thru my scrubber.

Is that a Can33? I run Can50s with my boxes and I keep waiting for them to expire. I've had them running 24/7 for over 2 years and they're still going strong. I've started flowering AK/GG in one of the boxes, so in about 6-7 weeks we'll see if the fitters pass the biggest smell test I've come across.

FT100, good to see you around.

Suga, I have a pair of C22s, each with a 600HPS.

 

[mysta177]

It's a very nice setup. How are the temps relative to ambient

Thank You very much. My temps are crazy and just getting to be under control As of now the tem inside are 75 and outside 73 deg. There is usually about a 2 deg diff. One time when i cleaned my filter from the intake there was no diffrence in temps. I can get my ladys 8in from the light with no probs.
This is the can 33. I did a run with some of the smelliest shit around (superDiesel) and it worked perfect. I noticed that adding carbon looks pretty easy in these.

 

[erratic_eddie]

ive seen a lot of setups with 2 dark vents on one side of the cabinet. i know the idea is to have the dark lovers on the opposite side of the intake fan so you can draw the air across the cabinet, but wouldnt it make more sense to have one lover on each side, this way you know air is being sucked in from both ends at the bottom? it seems that if you had both on one end, the other side may not have as much fresh air coming in. then again, maybe i dont know what im talking about. any ideas?