The Mill's Pride Club

[pinecone]

Im a total newb so I was wondering at how many nodes or at what height exactly do you guys flip the lights in your c25s?

Im also kind of worried about when i switch to flower. I could go to 12/12 in one gallon buckets and then when i know which are females, transplant them into 3 gallons. I was wondering if thats safe on the plant. I dont want hermies, i bought some vitamin b to help reduce stress.

I thought about waiting for them to show their sex in veg, but i was worried that might take so long that theyd overgrow the cab. They are c99 and a11.

I would suggest vegging them until they show sex. C99 shows sex earlier and even if you end up halving to wait a bit - both A11 and C99 are weak stemmed so they can be trained (even deep into 12/12).

As for the repotting - you should be good in 1-gallon contains for 1 month. By the time they are a month they should be sexable with a magnifying glass.

I grew C99 (in a C13), vegged the plants for 5-6 weeks, and the tallest one finished at 21". All the plants I grew out showed sex before 1 month.

Pinecone

 

[sumo]

StOn3r, they may show sex in veg. Mine almost always do. I switch to veg at around 12". If I have one or two plants that start getting tall early I fem or top these. Now I don't care about which seeds or what kind of plants are growing at same time. My shortest plant goes right under light tallest plants around the outside. Transplanting never stresses my plants. More like not transplanting stresses them when they need more room and use water everyday. The hardest thing to do with your plants is nothing and usually nothing is what they need. I think over watering and overfertilizing are very common and effects of these can be missinterpreted as something else like heat. Good luck guys and wait and see is the order of the day.

 

[pinecone]

Transplanting never stresses my plants. More like not transplanting stresses them when they need more room and use water everyday. The hardest thing to do with your plants is nothing and usually nothing is what they need. I think over watering and overfertilizing are very common and effects of these can be missinterpreted as something else like heat. Good luck guys and wait and see is the order of the day.

It is hard to do nothing.

One of the things you have to be careful of when doing seed grows in a small cab is transplating too early. You want to start a bunch of seeds so that you are guaranteed females and so that you can get the pick of the litter. If you transplant too early - like to pots bigger than 1-gallon - you may end up having to chuck some plants before they can be sexed (because you can only fit so many big buckets in a c13, c22, c24, or c25).

Pinecone

 

[wickedpete66]

It is hard to do nothing.

One of the things you have to be careful of when doing seed grows in a small cab is transplating too early. You want to start a bunch of seeds so that you are guaranteed females and so that you can get the pick of the litter. If you transplant too early - like to pots bigger than 1-gallon - you may end up having to chuck some plants before they can be sexed (because you can only fit so many big buckets in a c13, c22, c24, or c25).

Pinecone

on the flip side of this is if you transplant to late and rootbound the 1 gal pot. it might not root at all in the bigger pot when you finally do transplant. I have 2 plants flowering now that this occured on, they have skimpy buds on them.

 

[pinecone]

on the flip side of this is if you transplant to late and rootbound the 1 gal pot. it might not root at all in the bigger pot when you finally do transplant. I have 2 plants flowering now that this occured on, they have skimpy buds on them.

Roots grow the fastest during the stretch period of flowering. Thus, if you transplant after all the plants have been sexed, but prior to the start of 12/12 lighting, the plants should have no problems rooting in their new pots. Where people seem to run into problems with the roots not growing into the new pots is when they transplant well into 12/12.

I have a C13 and I aways start with 16oz cups (for 3 weeks or so) and then move to 0.8 gallon nursury containers, 2-gallon nursury contains, and finally 4-gallon nursury containers (depending). I'll generally start about 20 seeds and keep 18 plants (in the 0.8 gallon contains) until about 5 weeks when all the plants can be sexed. At this point I transplant to the 2-gallons containers (chucking my least favorite 13 plants) and switch the lights or transplant to 2-gallons (chucking my least favorite 13 plants), let the grow another 2 weeks, transplant to 4-gallons (chucking another plant), and switch the lights.

I've never had a problem with plants not rooting out although I have had some dud plants (which is why I start so many seeds).

Pinecone

 

[Guest]

cool, you guys are a big help

edit: can you recommend a good magnifying glass?

 

[pinecone]

can you recommend a good magnifying glass?

I have a 15x jewelers loop that works well. If you want to sex them really early you need a lot of magnification (like the loop). Later on (like by 5 weeks) you should be able to sex them easily without a loop.

If you don't want to purchase a loop, they you can pick up a small magnifying glass from the drug store. Something like 4-5x should be ok.

Pinecone

 

[Guest]

Hello again mills pride. I was wondering what the soil growers are using in thier cabs to waterproof the floor. I was thinking about just getting a pond liner and making a small ledge near the door to keep everything in, but I dont want a bunch of water just sitting at the bottom. If anyone has any suggestions or tricks please let me know. Thanks

guerilla

 

[pinecone]

Hello again mills pride. I was wondering what the soil growers are using in thier cabs to waterproof the floor. I was thinking about just getting a pond liner and making a small ledge near the door to keep everything in, but I dont want a bunch of water just sitting at the bottom. If anyone has any suggestions or tricks please let me know. Thanks

I generally just use the drain pans that were made for the containers I use if I'm in pots bigger than 2-gallon. When I use the 16oz cups and the 0.8 gallon containerss I use the trays that come with seedling flats. These trays are 24" long and about 5" wide - so 5 of them will pretty much cover the floor space of a C13. Of course there are seems and some water gets through - just not enough to cause problems.

Pinecone

 

[Guest]

thanks pinecone, thats just what I was hoping to hear.

guerilla

 

[Guest]

How much stuff are you guys hanging from the top? I think I might be overloading the ceiling. The heavy things are my fan and filter, 36lbs, ballast, 25lbs, i want to put a fish tank up there, 10 gallons, 80lbs. Im thinking about putting a peice of 5/8" melamine on top of the ceiling and the shelf peice directly underneath the ceiling and screwing it in place through the sides for an extra beefy ceiling.

Can you imagine if my fish tank collapsed the ceiling and fell through my grow? omg!

I might just give up on the fish tank idea, but it gives me a perfect excuse to have wiring running up to the top of my cab, and the air pump makes some decent noise. How are you guys addressing the problem of suspicious looking wiring running in to the cab?

 

[pinecone]

I might just give up on the fish tank idea, but it gives me a perfect excuse to have wiring running up to the top of my cab, and the air pump makes some decent noise. How are you guys addressing the problem of suspicious looking wiring running in to the cab?

I suspect the cielling would warp and deform - rather than outright break. This is what happens to kitchen cabs made of the similar material over time.

As for the wiring - I stuffed my box in a closet, drilled some holes in the floor, and ran the wiring to the utility room below the closet. There is no suspicious wiring unless your looking real closely at my utility room.

Pinecone

 

[sumo]

How I make hash. I bought a sift box over the internet for around $30-$40. First I rough sift my trim by putting it in can or tupperware container with a panty hose stretched over it and shake. Then I screen this rough sift in my sift box. This is easier than just sifting trim in box. After I sift my trim and make fine hash I then take same trim and put in big jar with ice a little water and shake, stir, agitate, let sit upside down open jar just enough to let water out upside down into a fine strainer catching water in a container you can pour from. Then I take this water and run it through the screen for my sift box catching water again. this screen catches almost all contaminate. Then take this water and let it sit till all trichs are at bottom. Pour water off too slowly. When you have just enough water left to flush trichs pour the rest into coffee filter. Let dry. I forget the rest its just a blur.

 

[DeadlyFoez]

I made the 420th post on this thread....woohooo

 

[NorCalRx]

HAHA no you didnt! Sumo did!

 

[sumo]

i just so happen to be VERY proud.

Who do you think this was?

 

[Pheno Phreak]

I made the 424'th post! !

*Always a lil late* haha

 

[simon]

Simon - if you see this - hit me with a PM

Hi, Pine! PM sent.

Hello to everyone else, too.

Simon

 

[Guest]

How do you get your doors to stay shut nicely up against the cab? Mine doesnt want to stay shut.

 

[rastamonunika]

simon from OG>?