The Marijuana Tax War Has Begun!
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Balazar
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We have a tax for everything in this county! Why do we need another one? I am willing to pay sales tax. Tobacco is taxed heavily in Colorado but taxes collected from that go to tobacco related medical programs (lung cancer club & quitters assistance). So if an extra tax was imposed on cannabis what would it go to? Public health commercials that encourage people to eat healthy while they have the munchies? Alcohol has a heavy tax too! But when was the last time you were taxed anything but sales tax for over the counter or even prescription medications? Should it be taxed if sold for recreational purposes? Should it not be taxed when sold as medicine?
Medicine is NOT taxable. And that is how it should be.
What all of you fail to realize is that WE HAVE BEEN PAYING A VERY HEAVY WAR ON MARIJUANA TAX all these years! It's just been taken out of our hides in the form of our self-respect, our standing in the community, high prices, paranoia, police records, drug tests, etc.
We have ALL suffered from this INVISIBLE TAX!
Students can't get loans for college, people get denied jobs, the social stigma, marginalization, criminalization are all far worse than ANY effect of marijuana itself.
Prohibition doesn't work, just like torture, which it is really if you've been hiding your marijuana use or suffered as a result.
It's time we UNIFIED over this one issue so that we can present our case to the public with a common cause and goal. To LIBERATE CANNABIS.
When we free cannabis from its legal restraints, we free ourselves to be who we are, to self-medicate using mother nature's herb, to recreationally use marijuana instead of alcohol, to find our spiritual selves thru the kynd enlightenment cannabis bestows upon us....
What all of you fail to realize is that WE HAVE BEEN PAYING A VERY HEAVY WAR ON MARIJUANA TAX all these years! It's just been taken out of our hides in the form of our self-respect, our standing in the community, high prices, paranoia, police records, drug tests, etc.
We have ALL suffered from this INVISIBLE TAX!
Students can't get loans for college, people get denied jobs, the social stigma, marginalization, criminalization are all far worse than ANY effect of marijuana itself.
Prohibition doesn't work, just like torture, which it is really if you've been hiding your marijuana use or suffered as a result.
It's time we UNIFIED over this one issue so that we can present our case to the public with a common cause and goal. To LIBERATE CANNABIS.
When we free cannabis from its legal restraints, we free ourselves to be who we are, to self-medicate using mother nature's herb, to recreationally use marijuana instead of alcohol, to find our spiritual selves thru the kynd enlightenment cannabis bestows upon us....
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Pistil_Party09
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exactly, if your a current card-holder and either of these bills pass, you should have your right to tax-free medicine, its that simple, if your a rec user, pay up. if you grow a small crop in your garden obviously it shouldnt be taxed. and a 5x5 foot area is more than enough for one person...or was it a per-property thing? if its per person then as far as personal use goes, thats generous, think about it if u know how to grow thats like a pound or 2 every few months, how is that NOT enough?
they do say 5x5 feet, right? so that means theres no height restriction?
they do say 5x5 feet, right? so that means theres no height restriction?
I want to be able to grow it, process it, use it and even give it away for free, but if you're going to sell it you need to be regulated, which means at least some tax to pay for the regulatory bodies work.
Just like booze and Cigs, and just like alcohol and cigarettes I'd like to see import taxes too, budmiles are BAD, Mmkay
Just like booze and Cigs, and just like alcohol and cigarettes I'd like to see import taxes too, budmiles are BAD, Mmkay
There is a larger issue here... Larger than marijuana at least. Should legalization be used as a platform for those larger issues? (Taxation without representation, etc) Or should we just be happy to not go straight to jail for pot anymore?
I for one am willing to see cannabis "illegal" for another decade, before I'd willingly pay yet another tax to the Gov't. Not to mention watching the counter-culture as we know it go the way of the twin towers.
Didn't the theory used to be that the only reason it's not legal is because they've found no effective way to tax it? Should we meet those people half way now?
Or should we force those neanderthal politicians out of office in favor of someone who represents us, the people?
Maybe now is not the right time for legalization. Maybe it's too soon. Maybe we should reconsider when the issue of "The Gov't as it stands won't let us do this, unless they get a piece" is less of an issue.
Or maybe I'm being an idealistic hippy?
Maybe. But there is principle involved here.
"Those who would trade freedom for safety deserve neither."
I for one am willing to see cannabis "illegal" for another decade, before I'd willingly pay yet another tax to the Gov't. Not to mention watching the counter-culture as we know it go the way of the twin towers.
Didn't the theory used to be that the only reason it's not legal is because they've found no effective way to tax it? Should we meet those people half way now?
Or should we force those neanderthal politicians out of office in favor of someone who represents us, the people?
Maybe now is not the right time for legalization. Maybe it's too soon. Maybe we should reconsider when the issue of "The Gov't as it stands won't let us do this, unless they get a piece" is less of an issue.
Or maybe I'm being an idealistic hippy?
Maybe. But there is principle involved here.
"Those who would trade freedom for safety deserve neither."
ParanoidGrower
Member
This bill sickens me and.... and!....!
Damn it, I feel so negative about this bullshit! I just feel like going out into my garden and having a smoke, while I look at my babies.
Fuck this bill!
Damn it, I feel so negative about this bullshit! I just feel like going out into my garden and having a smoke, while I look at my babies.
Fuck this bill!
ParanoidGrower
Member
I understand regulation. But to say we cannot grow it? That should tell anyone, right there, that this is only a victory for big business interest and a loss for everyone else.
Compassionate people who grow many plants just to give them away or sell them at friendly discounts? What about those people?
Given, not TOO many of those kind of people around, and 50 bucks tax on an ounce? LMAO
I would rather put that 50 bucks into soil and nutes. Insuring me a lot more than a measly ounce.
Compassionate people who grow many plants just to give them away or sell them at friendly discounts? What about those people?
Given, not TOO many of those kind of people around, and 50 bucks tax on an ounce? LMAO
I would rather put that 50 bucks into soil and nutes. Insuring me a lot more than a measly ounce.
5x5ft is a one pound plant. what if i need more than one pound per year? is there a regulation on how many tomatoes i can grow?
get yer head out of yer ass.
Riley Freeman
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just wanted to add that i like Kittens
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Riley Freeman
Member
Take away growing dope and then what comes next ~ The poor gotta slang coke and meth.....gotta start learning to all coke bathtube exctasy?
No big biz here, CCI needs your help
No big biz here, CCI needs your help
Just wanted to offer this about the 100% all volunteer California Cannabis Initiative, aka The Legalize, Regulate, and Tax Marijuana Initiative. Our website is http://www.californiacannabisinitiative.org Please read our initiative for yourself. Please help us get this on the ballot. Its fun, easy and everything you need to get started right now is on the website.
No big biz here, CCI needs your help
Just wanted to offer this about the 100% all volunteer California Cannabis Initiative, aka The Legalize, Regulate, and Tax Marijuana Initiative. Our website is http://www.californiacannabisinitiative.org Please read our initiative for yourself. Please help us get this on the ballot. Its fun, easy and everything you need to get started right now is on the website.
that CCI watermark is tight... gotta give you that.
Your understanding of economics is poor. Not your fault as that kind of thinking is encouraged these days.
Take away growing dope and the poor will be able to get jobs.
anthonytaurus
New member
I don't know as much as I should about Dennis Peron but Jack Herer is not completely against taxes. He is against taxes for personal growing and usage but Section III, part 2 of his CCH Initiative states..
On another note, I think we ought to stop reading that nonsense by Bruce W. Cain. I already said my piece on that delusional fool. So, I'll stop talking about that "article".
anthonytaurus
New member
Can someone point me to this initiative that states that personal growing would somehow be in jeopardy through regulation and taxation. Please, don't link that Examiner article by Bruce W. Cain. He's a fearmonger at best.
I read these initiatives and I haven't seen anywhere in any of them where personal growing is restricted EXCEPT for the space and plant requirements.
Where is this "cannabusiness community" initiative that somehow takes away the ability of private individuals to grow in their own homes?? What section is it in??
I read these initiatives and I haven't seen anywhere in any of them where personal growing is restricted EXCEPT for the space and plant requirements.
Where is this "cannabusiness community" initiative that somehow takes away the ability of private individuals to grow in their own homes?? What section is it in??
