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tleaf jr.

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I feel that I usually just remove leaves blocking productive sites , I really laxed this round didn't even prune suckers but I do have plans for making butter from them sooo. I had an apprentice that cut off every fan leaf and cut all sugar leaves in half , he said all the pics he seen had no fan leaves and only the tip of sugar leaves sticking out the buds lol lets just say he wasn't happy come harvest time
 

TheArchitect

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Stuff like this gets cut, too spaced out between nodes, it'll never produce anything other than some popcorn, I'd rathersave the leaf and focus energy into the tops

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this is one id keep, notice its getting more light, and its actually stacking, as opposed to the others that had over an inch between nodes.
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this is what my goal is nice stacked tops
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TheArchitect

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Watch that bad boy turn into a gram

It always surprises me what those will do, and because it will weigh a gram it'd be a bad trade off, as that isn't going to translate into a gram more up top.

Those others though won't even form a solid nug and would weigh maybe .2 grams and not to mention be a pain to trim.
 

tleaf jr.

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Yea I never get around to trimming the little shits , once I get up to your level I'll have to grab a trimmer shit I hate trimming one lb I can't imagine 14 lol any pics of your trimming machine if you gots one
 

tleaf jr.

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God damn , talk about some work ethic lol .... Pretty sure you could find a trimmer somewhere for the lows , are you still trimming last harvest...pm if you don't wanna clog your thread with a whole damn convo lol
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sometimes you gotta go all Edward sciccor hands lol
 

theother

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Stuff like this gets cut, too spaced out between nodes, it'll never produce anything other than some popcorn, I'd rathersave the leaf and focus energy into the tops

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this is one id keep, notice its getting more light, and its actually stacking, as opposed to the others that had over an inch between nodes.
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this is what my goal is nice stacked tops
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That is another excellent canopy management tip! Dude your killing it with all the little tips. Canopy management, lamp height, leach tests, all this stuff is what makes a garden work. Honestly I don't see this stuff on forums enough. Great thread
 

TheArchitect

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I trimmed for 8 days straight, about 10-12hr a day, had bout 4-6 hours a day of extra help. the nice thing is there was not one fluffy bud, not a gram of larf, every flower was marketable
 

TheArchitect

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That is another excellent canopy management tip! Dude your killing it with all the little tips. Canopy management, lamp height, leach tests, all this stuff is what makes a garden work. Honestly I don't see this stuff on forums enough. Great thread


Thank you. One of my peevs with the forums in general is that its usually a "look at me" scenario. There are only a few threads with detailed pictorials or instructions. I figure, if I'm going to show results, I should share how I got there, I mean none of this is proprietary information its just general best practices.

Really I'm just trying to give back to the community that helped me get to the point I am now. We are/were all standing on the shoulders of giants at some point.
 

TheArchitect

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And that's not to say the forum isn't chock full of good info it just seems scattered all over. I'm just trying to put as much information as I can into one place.
 

tleaf jr.

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When you remove your lowered do you take the plants out of the room or is the trellis put on by then and do you remove the suckers yourself or get help?
 

TheArchitect

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When you remove your lowered do you take the plants out of the room or is the trellis put on by then and do you remove the suckers yourself or get help?

They are in there until harvest, there is a double trellis across the entire room. I do all garden work myself, i only get help come harvest.
 

G.O.T.

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I like your style Arch. I too do it all except for some help at trim.

i've found finding the perfect amount of secondary branching is specific to each strain, but canopy management, IE a level canopy is the key to a nice harvest... I remember an old article from some local BC grower that talked about growing tips per plant, per light. Had it all worked out mathematically...

so those 1 g nugs add up if thats the plan... or sometimes a strain will be better untopped, ect.

ramble off, basically saying good work dialling that sassy lady
 

theother

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Stuff like this gets cut, too spaced out between nodes, it'll never produce anything other than some popcorn, I'd rathersave the leaf and focus energy into the tops

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this is one id keep, notice its getting more light, and its actually stacking, as opposed to the others that had over an inch between nodes.
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this is what my goal is nice stacked tops
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Do you manage your canopy gradually or do you have cleanup days where you remove everything subpar?
 

TheArchitect

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Do you manage your canopy gradually or do you have cleanup days where you remove everything subpar?

It depends, but mostly I do it in one or two days.

This run I had to go in at day 8 or so and hack away a bunch of suckers, but because I did it so early I'm going to have to do it again on day14

Edit, normally the clean up gets done just before flower, and then at day 18 or so, but I wanted to try something different.
 
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theother

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It depends, but mostly I do it in one or two days.

This run I had to go in at day 8 or so and hack away a bunch of suckers, but because I did it so early I'm going to have to do it again on day14

Edit, normally the clean up gets done just before flower, and then at day 18 or so, but I wanted to try something different.

Sounds like I'm on par with your normal. I usually go through one last time and get anything coming back like day 26 but the real clean ups are before flip and then a couple weeks in. It's a big job cleaning up a canopy.
 

TheArchitect

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Sounds like I'm on par with your normal. I usually go through one last time and get anything coming back like day 26 but the real clean ups are before flip and then a couple weeks in. It's a big job cleaning up a canopy.


Another thing I thought about, and will photo-document is the difference in flower development between branches in the proper zone of the canopy, and the lower sucker branches.

The lowers will look like they are 3-5 days behind in development and that is another deciding factor in what gets kept or cut.
 
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