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*The K.I.S.S. Method*
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Hindica
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First off let me say Just Say No To Hydro!
If this is so great and so simple a caveman can do it, which i don't doubt, then how is it that there are three growers i know that are using this method and are having almost every problem a plant/grower can have? Maybe they just simply don't have a green thumb?
If this is so great and so simple a caveman can do it, which i don't doubt, then how is it that there are three growers i know that are using this method and are having almost every problem a plant/grower can have? Maybe they just simply don't have a green thumb?
Possibly..
Ive yet to experience a situation where maxibloom doesnt do it, maybe a little N def here or there, but that can be amended with maxigrow, otherwise, anyone having problems with maxibloom must have an environmental issue affecting transpiration rates, or ph is off, otherwise this works in hydro configs or coco as I am doing.. I run a little more than 7 grams tho, 8-9 but I use RO water so perhaps that could be their issue?
It's not idiot proof.. Like stated lots of other things play a role in it. And as a grower by now you should know all plants require a Lil something different.. The cheese lacks big time in mag an N running at 7g. It's also under 75+ watts psf. I also had a problem one time when I was running a diluted amount. Like 5g a gal. Not wanting to pump it up due to having .4 ec start water, once I said the hell with it an ran at full dose everything turned around big time! Epsom salt is cheap if you need to bump up the mag an don't want to by increasing the maxi.
darkvade420
Active member
im surprised this thread is so big and very small amount of pics.i guess im just a visual learner seeing is beliving i guess im just old school.
It's not idiot proof.. Like stated lots of other things play a role in it. And as a grower by now you should know all plants require a Lil something different.. The cheese lacks big time in mag an N running at 7g. It's also under 75+ watts psf. I also had a problem one time when I was running a diluted amount. Like 5g a gal. Not wanting to pump it up due to having .4 ec start water, once I said the hell with it an ran at full dose everything turned around big time! Epsom salt is cheap if you need to bump up the mag an don't want to by increasing the maxi.
This.
I run something like 11 strains, and some of them simply require more or less nutrients than others, gotta learn to read your plants, and if your environment isnt dialed, you are wasting your time trying to diagnose your problems.
If temps are off, this will cause a nutrient imbalance when the plant uses a higher ratio of water in relation to the nutrients in the water, ultimately raising ec be it in the reservoir or media itself.
This is most likely going to be "nute burn" for the newer grower, not realizing the environment is not conductive to proper growth..
Gotta get some grows under your belt before it becomes clockwork.
Google "lucas formula" its probably the most documented nutrient regimen in regards to plant health photos....
Epic avi btw...
mattkilla420
Member
All u had to do was say something Vader..
It took little convincing to get me to try maxi and i love it. On my 3rd grow now and I've progressively gotten better. I don't have much to compare to bc i was a complete rookie when I used technaflora. Not as much mixing and awesome results. I use 3ml pro silicate pee gallon as well. Have not tried koolbloom yet but I've been using awesome blossoms from technaflora as a PK / flower booster, and it works great with the maxi.
Snowcap and sour diesel.
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Sour diesel
View attachment 188883 my personal favorite snowcap. Both these strains are bagswed. But we keep cloning off them bc the genetics are kick ass. Better than the ssh and WWxBB I purchased from attitude. View attachment 188884
Remember k. I. S. S.
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It took little convincing to get me to try maxi and i love it. On my 3rd grow now and I've progressively gotten better. I don't have much to compare to bc i was a complete rookie when I used technaflora. Not as much mixing and awesome results. I use 3ml pro silicate pee gallon as well. Have not tried koolbloom yet but I've been using awesome blossoms from technaflora as a PK / flower booster, and it works great with the maxi.
Snowcap and sour diesel.
View attachment 188882
Sour diesel
View attachment 188883 my personal favorite snowcap. Both these strains are bagswed. But we keep cloning off them bc the genetics are kick ass. Better than the ssh and WWxBB I purchased from attitude. View attachment 188884
Remember k. I. S. S.
Sent from my C771 using Tapatalk 2
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Ganja Maker
Member
Here ya go darkvade, KQK 400w
Ganja Maker
Member
another
mattkilla- what are your watts per foot??
lucas formula is foolproof, maxibloom isn't...i've decided after a year and a half of trying to get it too mix, with several ways from this very thread...I HAVE NEVER ONCE GOTTEN IT TO COMPLETELY DISSOLVE! it's cheep junk, imo koolbloom(made by the same company, but more expensive) fully dissolves almost instantly, so why can't maxi? because it's cheep junk, it just happens to have a good nutrient profile, but the solubility of it is total crap...so you can put a scoop in water and never know exactly how much dissolved to be useful to plants and how much is gonna be settling at the bottom of your rez or watering can afterward...
that plus the crap changes volume to ridiculous amounts...i don't like owning a scale, it's just one more way for them to prove i sell pot, but when i finally weighed my scoopful, it was only 3 grams! i had gone from giving them full dose to less than half dose because the powder got fluffier! it was the first time ive had an issue with my garden in 2 years, and it was directly caused by my choice of using maxibloom...
i say that because it can't happen with THE REAL KISS! the real kiss in my opinion is flora micro and flora bloom...it costs ten extra bucks, but the volume NEVER changes like with maxibloom, and it mixes instantly! literally 3 shakes and it's totally homogenized...
there is no shaking jars of hot water for half an hour, leaving in buckets for hours and mixing sporadically, just squirt 8ml of one and 16ml of the other and you are DONE! it takes 20 seconds and its ready to go on your plants, it's consistent every time...
i sat around and did the math, i spent 15 to 30 mins a day shaking jars and later, entire gallon jugs of maxi water, for a year and a half...if you do the math thats over a week of shaking 24 hours a day, all because i was lead to believe that maxibloom is a quality product and that it's normal for powdered mixes to disolve slow...turns out it's cheep crap in exactly the right amounts, so if you put up with the insane amount of work to weigh it out with a digi and shake it till your arms go numb everyday your plants WILL be healthy, but you are trading entire days and weeks of your life shaking, stirring, and mixing to save ten dollars over the floramicr/bloom version of lucas...
i am so incredibly happy i threw out the maxi bloom, and i will never ever use that garbage again, my plants love floramicro/bloom, probably because it's already fully dissolved, even though the amount and nutrient profile are exactly the same as i gave them before with maxi, they are getting more out of it because half of it is not stuck at the bottom of my watering jug in a white paste...
that doesn't even account for the fact that some nutrients likely disolve better than others in the mix, so if 20% of your mix doesn't dissolve, for all you know it could be significantly more of one nutrient than another, throwing off the lucas formula and explaining why people have trouble with maxibloom lucas compared to the other versions of lucas that ALL dissolve instantly!
MAKE THE SWITCH, I PROMISE YOU WILL BE SOOOO GLAD YOU DID!
the lucas formula IS idiot proof!...if you are having a deficiency, you up the dose of the entire formula...with the lucas formula, if you are using too low a dose, usually one will show first, in veg magnesium and nitrogen show first and in flower you will see a P or K, but they are almost always low on everything, they just show one more than the other, if you up the dose of the whole formula, everything gets back in check...i haven't had a deficiency in 2 years thanks to lucas formula, and i've grown a lot of strains and random freebee seeds...
lucas formula is foolproof, maxibloom isn't...i've decided after a year and a half of trying to get it too mix, with several ways from this very thread...I HAVE NEVER ONCE GOTTEN IT TO COMPLETELY DISSOLVE! it's cheep junk, imo koolbloom(made by the same company, but more expensive) fully dissolves almost instantly, so why can't maxi? because it's cheep junk, it just happens to have a good nutrient profile, but the solubility of it is total crap...so you can put a scoop in water and never know exactly how much dissolved to be useful to plants and how much is gonna be settling at the bottom of your rez or watering can afterward...
that plus the crap changes volume to ridiculous amounts...i don't like owning a scale, it's just one more way for them to prove i sell pot, but when i finally weighed my scoopful, it was only 3 grams! i had gone from giving them full dose to less than half dose because the powder got fluffier! it was the first time ive had an issue with my garden in 2 years, and it was directly caused by my choice of using maxibloom...
i say that because it can't happen with THE REAL KISS! the real kiss in my opinion is flora micro and flora bloom...it costs ten extra bucks, but the volume NEVER changes like with maxibloom, and it mixes instantly! literally 3 shakes and it's totally homogenized...
there is no shaking jars of hot water for half an hour, leaving in buckets for hours and mixing sporadically, just squirt 8ml of one and 16ml of the other and you are DONE! it takes 20 seconds and its ready to go on your plants, it's consistent every time...
i sat around and did the math, i spent 15 to 30 mins a day shaking jars and later, entire gallon jugs of maxi water, for a year and a half...if you do the math thats over a week of shaking 24 hours a day, all because i was lead to believe that maxibloom is a quality product and that it's normal for powdered mixes to disolve slow...turns out it's cheep crap in exactly the right amounts, so if you put up with the insane amount of work to weigh it out with a digi and shake it till your arms go numb everyday your plants WILL be healthy, but you are trading entire days and weeks of your life shaking, stirring, and mixing to save ten dollars over the floramicr/bloom version of lucas...
i am so incredibly happy i threw out the maxi bloom, and i will never ever use that garbage again, my plants love floramicro/bloom, probably because it's already fully dissolved, even though the amount and nutrient profile are exactly the same as i gave them before with maxi, they are getting more out of it because half of it is not stuck at the bottom of my watering jug in a white paste...
that doesn't even account for the fact that some nutrients likely disolve better than others in the mix, so if 20% of your mix doesn't dissolve, for all you know it could be significantly more of one nutrient than another, throwing off the lucas formula and explaining why people have trouble with maxibloom lucas compared to the other versions of lucas that ALL dissolve instantly!
MAKE THE SWITCH, I PROMISE YOU WILL BE SOOOO GLAD YOU DID!
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sweetestsin420
nice what light do yu use webcat?
senorsloth, warm/hot water causes calcium to solidify, fact, that's why you wont have any problems when your water is mixed at room temps. i use 6/9 micro/bloom with RO water from start to about three weeks into flower then i switch to maxibloom and 50/50 RO/tap water for the next four to five weeks (BAM!). using both works great.
KrazyieFosho
Member
can also use jungle juice even has lucas on the bottle lol
BullnAChinaShop
Member
Wow. Thanks for this.
There is plenty of available Calcium and Magnesium in Maxibloom. Should you need extra magnesium, epsom salts will work just fine... up to a teaspoon per gallon.
Stay Safe!
