The 'inventor' lawsuits for ice hash kits

[delta9man]

for sure y are right with that,maybe one day gonna test this Xtroator, nevertheless bubble man did great marketing work, with his product and without it nobody would know about... dont know who made first patent mila or somebody else i give a f on patents ....especialy due to so easy made products, everybody who has a little plan can copy them hisself with little work and y cant say their have been big investigastions to make, instead of the marketing
here some old pics of mine still running thruoght the net after OG f down





sorrily all left in size 100x100

 

[Will]

Folks the only thing I want is to teach the method the machines sell themselves. visit my website kingofnepal.net, under articles you can see our contracts with Milla! My sole objective is to teach correct method and improve everyones medicine. Stop destroying your medicine is my message. The lawsuit marches on, the list of pirates selling obsolete system using method which made seiving obsolete is long. Milla, Bubbleman, Scwagg bags, Kabulbabbags, the list is endless and it's all Millas fault for not honoring her contract, but it goes much deeper and the reasons behind all the patent confusion. I have been investigating this copyright infringement case nearly two years and I am sorry if the truth is not what you have been led to believe. This is the biggest ripoff in Canna history. Not only did they rip off the inventor but they ripped off you and I, by not telling us the true patented method. No one knew you could use fresh material, all we were told is to dry,grind up, freeze, then pass thru bags, completely opposite of what patent says to do. So who is lying and who benefits from the sale of cheap fabric! You have been hood winked, bam boozeld, flim flammed, and when you see the truth you will be pissed off as well!!!

 

[Verite]

Funny, I seriously doubt this method has anything better on bubblemans filter bags. HMK is right that fresh material isnt exclusive to the " $1000 washing machine ".

Thanks for the patent number, at least now we can study for ourselves the marvels of the machine and how its going to revolutionize the ice water extraction method.

You also have some explaining to do on how the obvious looking cake beater bars inside the washing machine dont disturb the trichomes like the the bag method does. [ pictures below ]

United States Patent 6,158,591
Date: December 12, 2000

Method and apparatus for extracting plant resins


Abstract
An improved method and apparatus for extracting resin from plant material. Conventionally, plant resins, which are useful in many products, are extracted using chemical solvents, which may alter the extract, and may produce a by-product or residue that may be unusable or problematic. The present invention overcomes these drawbacks by using cold water in a wash process to cause the resins to become brittle, while the remaining plant material becomes more flexible. Separation is accomplished using an extractor (10) having a washing chamber (12) with an open top (14) and a screen filter (16) disposed above a settling chamber (18). A collection bottle (24) is placed below a valve (22), and may include a filter (26) to separate resin particles from the solute. The washing chamber is first filled with cold water and then a quantity of plant material (P) is placed therein, followed by an ice layer (30). An agitator (32) is then actuated to mix the contents to separate the resins. The settled resin is thereafter captured by the filter (26) upon opening the valve (22).

Claims

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What is claimed is:

1. A method of extracting resin from plant material, said method comprising the steps of:

placing a quantity of water having a temperature in the range of 0 degrees to 15 degrees C. into a washing chamber;

placing a quantity of plant material into the water in the washing chamber;

adding a quantity of ice to the quantity of plant material and water in the washing chamber;

mixing the water and plant material to separate resin from the plant material and to create a solution;

filtering the plant material from the resin and solution; and

filtering the resin from the solution.

2. An apparatus for extracting resin from plant material, said apparatus comprising a washing chamber having an agitator and an open top, with a screen filter disposed above a settling chamber and valve, with a quantity of water having a temperature in the range of 0 degrees to 15 degrees C. placed in said washing chamber, and a quantity of plant material placed into the water in said washing chamber, so that when the water and plant material in said washing chamber are agitated, resin is separated from the plant material and passes through the screen filter to said settling chamber.

3. The apparatus of claim 2 further including a quantity of ice placed in said washing chamber.
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Description

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DESCRIPTION

1. Technical Field

This invention relates generally to the processing of plants and agricultural products, and more specifically to an improved method of extracting resin from plant material.

2. Background Art

Plant resins are used in many products. Extraction of plant resins typically involves the use of chemical solvents, which may alter the extract, and may product a by-product or residue that may be unusable or problematic.

DISCLOSURE OF INVENTION

The invention provides a method and apparatus to extract plant resins from plants (including dried or fresh flowers, leaves, stems, roots, and the like) using only cold water in a wash process. The temperature of the cold water causes the plant resins to become brittle, while the remaining plant material becomes more flexible. Separation is accomplished by agitation, filtering the residual plant matter from the resin particles and solution, and then filtering the resin particles from the solution.

The invention provides an "ice-water" resin extraction method which has several advantages. Other than water there are no solvents necessary, resulting in an unadulterated extract which may be of importance in the use of its fragrant properties or as a food additive. The method produces a very clean product in as little as one step, without further filtration through settling for a specific duration. Small fibrous plant particles take time to saturate and settle, while resins fall out sooner. Pesticide residues are simultaneously removed. The plant material from which the resins are removed stays essentially intact for further processing (e.g., steam or vacuum distillation, solvent extractions, etc.) The water soluble components can be separated from the liquid at different levels. Fresh undried plant material can be processed using this ice-water method.

BRIEF DESCRIPTION OF THE DRAWINGS

FIG. 1 is a side elevation view of an apparatus for extracting plant resins of this invention.

BEST MODE FOR CARRYING OUT THE INVENTION

Apparatus or extractor 10 includes a washing chamber 12 having an open (or openable) top 14, with a screen filter 16 disposed above a funnel-shaped settling chamber 18 having a collection neck 20 and a valve 22. Collection bottle 24 is placed below the valve 22, and may include a filter 26 to separate resin particles from the solute, as described infra.

In use, washing chamber 12 is filled with cold water (e.g. 0.degree.-15.degree. C.) to the level of the initial fill mark 12a. A quantity of plant material P is placed into the cold water, and then ice layer 30 consisting of crushed ice, ice cubes or snow may be placed on top of the plant material until the contents of the washing chamber rises to the level of the maximum fill mark 12b. Agitator 32 (such as an electric mixer with stirring whisks) is actuated to mix the contents, preferably in a sequence of mixing and non-mixing (soaking) intervals, to separate the resins from the plant material, as well as to create a solution of that part of the plant material which is soluble into the cold water. After the agitation is stopped, the resins will continue to settle into the settling chamber. The valve may be periodically opened to allow the resin and solution to pass to the paper filter, capturing the resins and allowing the solution to enter the collection bottle. Alternatively, the collection bottle may be directly connected to the valve, allowing the user to fill the bottle with resin/solute for later separation.

In typical dimensions the apparatus is capable of processing plant material in quantities from several grams to approximately 200 grams (dry weight, depending on the plant species). The development of the extractor was based in part on the result of experiments with resin extraction from the flowers, leafs and stems of the Navarretia sqarrosa (Eschs.). It is a member of the Phlox family (Polemoniaceae). It is a small flower (2 to 20 in.) and is well known for its medical properties to native Americans. The resin is visible to the bare eye and is concentrated on the flowers which are protected by sharp spikes and leaves and stems. It develops during early summer when it smells similar to coffee and changes its odor during ripening to "bacon like". Its strong odor makes it of interest to the fragrance industry.

In the washing or separating process, the container (washing chamber) 12 is filled with cold water to the initial fill mark, which is approximately 1.5" above the screen, to avoid direct contact of the plant material with the screen. After the plant material is placed in the water, smaller fibrous plant particles will absorb water and increase in size before reaching the screen. The plant material will also absorb water and become flexible. Stems are cut to a maximum length of approximately 2". The layer of ice cubes, crushed ice, or snow added on top of the plant material causes it to submerge, accelerating the process of water absorption. The ice will drop the temperature of the water and plant material to a point where the resins become brittle and break off of the surfaces of the agitated, flexible plant material. The separated resin particles are heavy and will drop down to the screen, where the light motion created by the "washing" motion above will wash these particles through the screen. In general a washing time from 30 to 60 minutes will separate more than 90% of the resin.

The screen size is related to the plant species being processed. The gaps have to allow the resin particles to penetrate, and are therefore relative to the specific physical properties of the plant material at cold temperature having been submerged in water.

Due to a buffer effect of the screen the liquid in the settling chamber below the screen is relatively still, and increasingly so towards the bottom. The bigger resin particles roll to the collection neck above the valve. Smaller particles may settle on the inclined surfaces of the chamber (e.g., approximately 45 degree angle), and have to be agitated to further descend, or will be washed out with the final drainage of the chamber. In the case of some plant material after about 30 minutes close to half, and after 60 minutes all the resin separated will have settled. The green to brown color of the liquid is due to water soluble plant components where the lighter essential oils and waxes are in the top layer, or due to undissolved fibrous plant particles suspended in the emulsion. After approximately 10 hours, these particles will have absorbed enough water and descend, clearing up the liquid substantially.

A highly fragrant waxy component can be removed from the liquid by injecting cold water, aerated cold water or fine air bubbles under high pressure causing a layer of foam to appear. This foam when separated (skimmed off) settles to a waxy liquid which is stable at room temperature, unlike the total liquids which start decomposing at room temperature after approximately 24 hours. After separating this waxy compound, the remaining solution may be used as an organic fertilizer as is, or concentrated.

The resin is finally removed from the container through the valve on the bottom and collected in a paper filter, which allows the water to drain. At the bottom layer of the liquid the water separates easy through the paper filter, while the higher levels may have a sealing effect on the filter.

All processes used to wash fabric (e.g., the use of a clothes washing machine) are of use in this method (washing forward, reverse, spinning, rinsing, settling/soaking times, etc.) The specific mechanical movement applied depends on the specific characteristics of the resins and plant materials to be processed. A plant specific sequence can be programmed and automated.

The filter size to separate the resin from the plant material is also plant specific. Resin particles when submerged require a slightly larger screen than dry particles due to their physical characteristics in a water emulsion. A sequence of different filter sizes allows further separation.

Any paper filter with pores smaller than the resin crystals and fragments removes the liquid from the resin. The bottom layer of the liquid can be passively removed from the resin (drip). To extract the resin from the total liquid large surface filters and pressure may be needed. In general, any combination of settling and pressure filtration is possible with the ice-water method.

While this invention has been described in connection with preferred embodiments thereof, it is obvious that modifications and changes therein may be made by those skilled in the art to which it pertains without departing from the spirit and scope of the invention. Accordingly, the scope of this invention is to be limited only by the appended claims and equivalents.

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-...6,158,591.PN.&OS=PN/6,158,591&RS=PN/6,158,591

The washing machine... The instructions[ click to enlarge pics ]

 

[Babbabud]

TRUTH

TRUTH

I suggest you stop talking in circles and get the equipment to show pictures of your product. Until you show some pictures of some real fmcd no one is going to listen . You show us anything that comes close to comparing with TF's product and we are going to shut up and listen. So do yourself a favor and take some good pics of YOUR product like we have and someone may listen. Till then SAVE YOUR BREATH

 

[mybeans420]

No one knew you could use fresh material

That right there tells me one thing... you don't have a clue about the canna scene.

Have a look at Bubblemans site under instructions...

8. Four small bags of Fresh Frozen plant trim in them.

Those instructions have been there as long as i can personally remember.
It's funny, considering nobody knew they could use fresh material, an aweful lot of people seem to be doing just that.

As for this...

US Patent # 6,158,591, EU patent # 1015118, Canadian patent # 2321815, are very much enforcible. There is no way around this no matter how much these people have confused the patent method.

You obviously have a thing or two to learn about patent law my friend. Good luck in court. You're going to need it.

A little morning star bubble I made using bubblebags.
BTW.... thats just the 73 from a 3 BAG KIT
Such a shame I destroyed that stuff... ROTFLMAO!!!!

Seriously though, I don't have bags anymore but as soon as I can you can bet you ass I'll be ordering from Bubbleman.

So where's yours? I mean seriously, to read your crap you'd think we're just a bunch of ignorant yokels. At least we can work a digital camera though.

Peace,
Beans

 

[Will]

It's so easy to sell machines to bag users. Every bag user potential client. I'll be at the cup wearing my clown shoes come and visit ICECOLD booth. Bubblebags is being sued out of existence just as GW sued Cannasat out of business. When you figure out the truth, I'll forgive your transgression. Again sticking bag system to Ice Water Extraction Method retarded. Put the same material thru bags and same material thru machine, if you can honestly believe you can beat the machine, can I sell you the Brooklyn bridge. Anyway have you noticed the further we go, the less bags people are using, the only bag you need is the 150 micron to make the cream you should in your picture. All the machine does is put out that product, quantity and quality can not be beat, the final step is 5 micron coffee filter that catches all loose terpinoids, which slip thru the bags. I could improve the above technique 3X. But seeing is believing come to the cup!

 

[gaiusmarius]

posted by Will, who most definitely should take a chill pill Will:

I made some concentrate using fresh Haze in Spain left everyone catatonic. I really like the results from ATF pure rocket fuel. Making hashish from fresh plant is the best in the world. No drying, no grinding, no freezing, no passing thru 4-8 diluting bag process. Its the purest, the less handling the better when making the cream.

diluting bags! pah what a fool. have you ever looked at the stuff that the 190 and 160 screen takes out under a microscope or other magnification? have you? it's shit, full of green bits of leaf and calyx hair bits. so tell me how taking that away is diluting will you? what a funny little man.

by the way, you got one thing right and one thing only; fresh frozen makes the best.

here is some destroyed 73, it was destroyed by the 160 screen taking shit out that looks like trim and budlet particles, as well as little fragments of calyx hairs under a microscope. we call that purifying it. if you call that destroying then thats your business. but doesn't make it real. notice how melty my destroyed trichomes are?

yeah mon, deez trichomes 'ave destroyed me after i destroy 'em wid fire in my bong.

destroyed ha!

until you can show some full melt you are just blabbing.....yawn. it's easy to show up over night complaining about shit. but where were you in all the time tf has been here helping out and sharing his pics. your just here to start shit by the looks of it?

 

[Perhaps]

sorry I don't have the equipment.

In this day and age that is just hogwash, borrow a camera off of one of your shills and show us your full melt.

When you use completely fresh material it comes out so pure, it's hard to handle, so he freezes it to solidify it, it will melt if you just set it out it will melt in your hand, can not be put into plastic, sticks to your hand like hand rub, you have to scrap it off with knife. The more you press it out into a sheet the more see thru it becomes. Again every strain is different

Check !
With Bubblebags, which have never included instructions to dry, grind and then wash the living shit out of your starting material, some people just seem to take it upon themselves to do that. Alot of people have been also using fresh trim, alot of ice and minimal agitation from the get go, the gland heads are not forced through the screens and fall through gravity to their resting place. In these cases I would say terpeniod loss would be similar to the results you credit your machine with but seperation has been achieved and we are not facing the prospect of emptying the stratiform in the 'bladder'.


Come on, show us your full melt.


Something from stage five of the dilution method.

 

[Babbabud]

the cup is a joke POST SOME PICTURES . Beside we have our own cup.

 

[gaiusmarius]

Originally Posted by Will

No one knew you could use fresh material

hahahahahahahaha idiot hehehehehehehe

i was doing bubble runs with fresh frozen back on OG and others have been doing it, for years before that lol.

 

[Guest]

ok so far you've called out(see if I can remember); bubbleman, Clarke, Rosenthal, Mila, Sam, Trichomefarmer. Yet everyone thats a member here on icmag that you called out responded with some pics of the melty goodness...your comments about diluting hash are just plain asinine, ever since you made that comment your credibilty went way down with hash heads who know. All your really doing here, is promoting the bubblebags, which is groovy by me, cause they are the best thing for making hash. Keep up the good work

diluted hash via the bubble bags:

 

[Gypsy Nirvana]

.....and yeah.....even I have been DESTROYED.....by Trichomefarmers and Bubblemans hash.......

.....lets see your hash Will........c'mon.....put up or..........

 

[Will]

Thank the Bubbleman for diluting everyones dope as much as 11 times. Now I hear from a three bag user, it went from 8 bags, then 7, then 6, then 4, then 3, finally 2 the Ipaylater (ISOLATER) original pirated system from 1998, now that patent released the patented machine only uses one filter, the same machine we introduced as XTRACTOR 420 at 1997 Cup, when we introduced ICE WATER EXTRACTION. All they have done is add bags, now their subtracting them and then they call me a clown. You see there are alot of confused people who were taught wrong wrong wrong. You only need one filter, and fresh material to make the product shown above. These idiots have diluted everyones medicine if you happen to be a med pot person licensed like I am. Medicine being so precious, and to teach people how to waste it and destroy it is a mortal sin against the culture I helped create over 40 years ago, so yes this is personal. Again I am only licensing two bag systems, by the way Kootenay Bubble makes this system in Canada under our License!!!!!! Somebody stick a fork into Bubblehead he is done. There is a High Times issue coming in November where Subcool rights an article about bags, first they changed recipe to now using fresh herb because of my posting at OGF, but it doesn't matter because everything I told HT made his article obsolete, they were mad as everyone should be for patent confusion. Dude and Dudettes you have not lived until you make hash from fresh right off the plant, at prime ripeness buds. Whose the clown!!! No we are the patent holders, I have a real name Joseph R. Pietri, I don't have to hide behind false misnomers!!!

 

[Guest]

man you type a lot, whats the big problem with posting a pic? talk all you want but take a quick break pull out your cam and take a freakin pic, though at this point in my book your a scam. so post or don't post a pic, but this website has some intelligent people on it, and won't be wooed by your name dropping or long posts...

 

[Guest]

, I have a real name Joseph R. Pietri, I don't have to hide behind false misnomers!!!

why call yourself will then ?

 

[Gypsy Nirvana]

.....I get dry sieved hash thru the passive trichome collection screen in one of my stash-boxes.....and thats a 150 micron screen........but it don't melt like what comes out of Bubblemans smallest gauge screen........can't really compare it...

..and I made hash with the guy from fresh trim 5 years ago...

 

[gaiusmarius]

you really don't understand what you're talking about do you. do i really have to show you what comes out thanks to the 190 and 160 bags, if you really mean well you need to inform yourself better before you start misinforming people. take the time to look at the product that's being taken out of the best stuff. look at what the so called diluting bags actually dilute. sure i can make one quality if i want. but i certainly won't buy an expensive machine to get all the stuff in the 190, 160, and the 25 included in my high quality 45, 73 and 120. if i wanted one grade of hash made from it all, i'd use a brewers net and a bed sheet, lots of fresh frozen material ice and water and we are away, one quality ice hash from fresh plants for the price of a brewers net and a bed sheet.

but for those of us who really want clean hash we'll continue to use the bubble bags, thank you.

 

[Will]

All that destroyed dope to get alittle something something, a little gratification in order to buy cheap fabric at wedding dress prices, measure all the melt you lose and you can buy 5 machines. Dude I don't make false accusations, I have over 300 documented pieces of evidence from every individual mentioned. Clarke and Skunkman now work for the darkside of Cannabis GW PHARM, who by the way is dedicated to putting medical marijuana out of business. Oh have I told you I am the expert witness in this case. You'd be surprised how many of your medical marijuana heroes have stock in GW Pharm!!!! All the jealousy lust and deceit that came from that show (1997 Cup)with the introduction of ICE WATER EXTRACTION, has shown the Cannabis culture where the cancer is in our culture. You know I'm old school smuggler going back 40 years, for forty years I have been fighting these SOBS and now some of us are them. I'm back with Swiss Ice Cold and fighting for your freedom to grow and make your own hash. Think of this is Rheinhard would have sold formula to Bayer and never shown at cup, or given seminars, nobody would have known the method, we would still be using ancient techniques, there be no bubble no ice hash. Rheinhard is a true Canna hero, who had a major impact in our world. He did not sell out he did not go to the dark side, but those who stole from him did! How about that for irony! This clown has been investigating this going on 2 years and still working

 

[trichomefarmer]

clown indeed...

 

[Will]

Again a lot of mis information and patent confusion concerning the Ice Water Extraction method has been taught. The method is for fresh bud right into machine, you do not get the results you can get from machine. All seiving made obsolete in 1997!!