The IC Organic Growers Community Thread.

[hicksticky]

Beautiful work everybody, luv me some organic buds

Here's what's been stinking up my rooms...
Khalisi (jihad x tha purps)

Pheno #6

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#2

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#1

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All are in 3gal. 50/50 mix, "new"/recycled organic soil.

 

[bluhazy]

3 mextroyer ( mextiza x destroyer ) and a female found in Sam the skunkman freebies, 1 cubic foot of recycled organic sub and 1 cubic foot of vegetation.

3 weeks of flo @ 11/13

detail mextroyer #1

Topfeeding with kelp/nettle/alfalfa/batguano/comfrey/epsom salt , rain water and aact/sst


Peace BH

 

[CimeTempestose]

very nice micro growing .. .. ..

 

[Team Microbe]

Various recycled and no-till containers up to two years of age. Only getting better. I use a variety of fresh and dried inputs as topdress/mulch along with some companion planting. Using local plants that are clean and healthy is a priority to keep in line with actual sustainability.

I'm happy to see so much activity in this sub-forum. It lifts the heart to watch positivity grow.

Here are some plants. May they inspire other growers to continue to strive towards holistic healthy living

Floji #2 at day 56 of flowering under 11/13 on/off light schedule.

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Absolutely beautiful man

 

[Weird]

Hey weird,
Thanks for the information I was going to pm you and ask you about the soil because you had answered my question about it and autos before awhile back but I haven't reached my 50 post yet and unlocked the other features yet so I posted here. But since I got your attention I was wondering since I am doing autos in this mix and they usually take about 75 days will I be able to reuse this mix right after an auto grow with another auto grow or would I have to amend it again?
Also I no its practically the same question but how do I recycle this mix once I have used it do re add the bone, blood and kelp in the same amounts and let it sit and condition again? Or do I add other amenities to it?

Sorry just seeing this.

You have some choices. I like LC's mix, and I have reused it both by mixing and top dressing/teas no til.

IMHE the larger the soil volume to biomass the less you need to add to keep it running efficiently. 1/2 back of what you put in is a good baseline if the plants looked healthy when you pulled them. I don't use much of anything close to mineral but oyster shell.

I have transitioned to using mostly plant meals. Kelp, neem and alfalfa primarily. Plant meals seem to be a quicker bio-availabilty in the soil than other types of meals except maybe some bird/bat guanos.

 

[3rdEye]

Absolutely beautiful man

thank you very much. I do my best to grow ganja without compare and i love to encourage others to get to natural methods. Check out my grow journal if you want to see more of my work.

 

[bluhazy]

Femm. Freakerella ( cinderella99 bx1 x destroyer #3 freaky thai feno , female turned male)

1:3 gallon recycled organic soil

Topfeeding with kelp/nettle/alfalfa/batguano/comfrey/epsom salt , rain water and aact/sst

Peace BH

 

[Team Microbe]

Femm. Freakerella ( cinderella99 bx1 x destroyer #3 freaky thai feno , female turned male)

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1:3 gallon recycled organic soil

Topfeeding with kelp/nettle/alfalfa/batguano/comfrey/epsom salt , rain water and aact/sst

Peace BH

Judging by the leaf burn, that top dressing might be too hot

 

[heady blunts]

hey guys.

lapides has been doing a really nice organic soil indoor beds grow show for almost two years now, and he just had a sudden calcification tragedy strike. he's understandably bummed so i thought we could discuss it here and not stress him out in his thread.

if we come up with some good ideas we can just drop in one post with conclusions in his thread for the benefit of his readers.

here's the post where he discovered his soil had hardened up:

It takes an awful lot of courage for me to come here and say this to all of you who have been along for the ride.

It seems as though my 'retard-proof-recipe-for-success' is a complete and utter failure.

Unbeknownst to me, the gradual combination of dolomitic lime, crushed seashells, and get this - EARTHWORM CARCASSES - eventually forms a kind of cement that hardens COMPLETELY overnight.

I went in this AM and could not believe what I was seeing. Everything seemed perfectly fine last night. Now, I have 8 2.5'x5'x1' beds completely filled with hardened cement in a basement that I cant get out. It's going to take forever to break up the blocks into chunks that I can handle, this stuff is almost as hard as a diamond. FUCK ME.

So the lesson for today folks, if you want to be a successful grower, don't do ANYTHING you've read in this thread.

Today I quit growing pot to chase my number 2 dream - I am now going to be a professional fooz ball player.

to me it seems like a mag lock out situation after the calcium in the dol lime originally used was digested leaving an overabundance of magnesium. i suggested tossing some gypsum on there and watering in some aloe just to see if it would loosen up the soil at all, but no luck.

he went to his local university ag extension and they thought it could be something to do with the composting worms in his beds in combo with anerobic conditions, although i find that hard to believe having run worms in my containers for years and never having similar experiences.

i have seen cheap EWC (wiggle worm) harden up when top dressed. i recently started considering the importance of the bedding the worms are casting from. cheaper castings are bedded on peat, while the higher quality bagged castings are bedded on thermal compost. the peat castings look perfect and are often confused for the better product. the thermal castings may have some unfinished bits of wood and sticks, but are ultimately more nutritious.

i have a feeling that using thermal compost as a major part of the mix, and/or regular top dressing with thermal compost, and/or a diverse and nutritious mulch will mitigate some of these peat-based time-bombs.

ie, using only peat-bedded-castings as the 33% total volume of your base mix (the compost portion) does not accomplish the same benefits as using diverse composts or even all thermal compost in the mix using EWC to top dress or make ACT.

anyone wanna spitball?

 

[Team Microbe]

Personally, I'm not sure of a way to reverse the negative affects that the lime has caused already for Lapides. I gave him some inspiration over there stemming from what I've been through with my PM from hell, but it sounds like he's still in the anger phase of denial (not trying to sound mean here). I went through the same thing, I got really angry with myself and stopped growing all together for a few weeks until I woke up one day and realized I was going to attempt to beat powdery mildew.

We've gotta give him motivation to get back into it, because he's clearly a 5 star grower and it would be a shame to see him let a little dolomite lime get in the way of his future as a grower. I think he needs a little time to think, throw out his faulty mix, and mix up some new soil that will perform well and be stable for the long haul. I've been there, and it's not a fun ride when you're not left with any options due to a soil toxicity/imbalance. I hope there is a way that he can bypass re-filling the beds, but unfortunately I can't offer any advice towards that.

Come back Lapides!!

 

[stihgnobevoli]

Judging by the leaf burn, that top dressing might be too hot

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looks like spidermites.

 

[Obi-Wan]

There are many great posts in this thread. I look forward to participating.

 

[heady blunts]

womp womp.

lapides' garden is perfect...

he's a clever prankster! april fools!

bottom line: living soil beds still rock

 

[Lapides]

And worms are still good

 

[antheis]

nobody expects april fools in september

 

[ghostmade]

I was the first to call it! What i win?a pm when your fucking around.thanks lol

 

[MJtheIndicator]

Femm. Freakerella ( cinderella99 bx1 x destroyer #3 freaky thai feno , female turned male)

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1:3 gallon recycled organic soil

Topfeeding with kelp/nettle/alfalfa/batguano/comfrey/epsom salt , rain water and aact/sst

Peace BH

stems are beautiful, flowers look great, the destroyer really does express well across all your crosses, how many flowering weeks in the pic?

 

[Artisan_crafted]

That Casey jones is a yeilder

 

[Terps]

Ghost OG in living organic soil.

 

[jaded1]

Gooey cross