Yes i smoked a lot of coffee shop haze there was only 1 or 2 shops that carried it "pure" and it was straight teak leather and pretty trippy.
Naw man the haze 19 and hybs came later and were labled as such. Sam has said in the past he gave them o haze seeds no takesy backys lol.
The only haze hybrids they had back then was orange 1 x haze and sk1 x haze, then the grip of original haze seed they had. This as well as that sk1 "hand pollinated by the skunkman" all came from sam and was not the work of posi at all.
same goes for the thai x haze hybrid stuff, all of that came more than a decade later. This what i grow at the time was refered to as original haze by sam and everyone else.
Trust me if any of that soapy perfumy dutch weed showed itself upon recombination i would have ditched that haze line decades ago - it is straight tropic sally zero doubt.
my only horse in the race is that you guys not be intentionally duped out of pursuing what i believe to be the best ever haze. I've not done anything with it in over a decade and have no plans to. That lumbo heavy one been done to death globally and the thai heavy one was better and seems far more in danger of being lost.
Soap like ladies bath soap? Some of Todd's have that going on.
I keep firing up the octopus looking THH and starting to think that one might be the keeper from the batch. A long one too but I think the fluffy one is longer. Still judging both honestly.
"i'd warn folk to eat their meat as well before diving into their pudding. Always always always do the open pollination first and burry that seed deep prior to diving into hybrid investigation. Hybrids do not improve haze - they mearly pick up the slack on the overwhelming hay population. I can see how it may seem to folk (l33t, sam, nevil et al... lol) that this is an improvement but it is an illusion haha." Tom Hill
Glad I took that route didn't want to miss out on anything.