The Haze discussion thread

[RingtailCanyon]

That’s rich. That’s what I thought.

 

[Tom Hill]

In addition to his full on perfumy ruining of genes wordwide he has unwittingly hermed the scene out.

 

[RingtailCanyon]

I’ve gotta say I love chimeras simply irresistible and it’s straight frankincense.
tom what do you have going this season clone wise?

 

[Sub24ox7]

I got exactly 70% females in 3 cultivators choice haze hybrid lines. Idk if if an intersex male was used or not but that seems to put out that ratio.
could have been luck if the draw.
I wonder who made the current haze hybrids from cultivators choice? Was it Sam?
all of the current offerings seem to use a skunk haze as the male, intersex male maybe?

 

[Tom Hill]

There was no talk of hermie before sam went to europe and fuct it all to hell. Everything he poddymouths is what he did he says he did not but that is a big fat lie.

 

[Tom Hill]

Sam knows this guys

 

[Bnyest]

I got exactly 70% females in 3 cultivators choice haze hybrid lines. Idk if if an intersex male was used or not but that seems to put out that ratio.
could have been luck if the draw.
I wonder who made the current haze hybrids from cultivators choice? Was it Sam?
all of the current offerings seem to use a skunk haze as the male, intersex male maybe?

my first 4 beans of Todd’s were males

 

[Sub24ox7]

I’m thinking the current offerings use a haze/skunk intersex male
yea I’m talking about the current offerings from cultivators choice, the haze/skunk male used.
just curious. I have liked the current haze hybrids a lot been fun to grow and interesting.
anybody ever found an intersex male in a straight haze x skunk?

 

[Tom Hill]

"To be honest the lumbo purp may have been stronger but the thai heavy haze was best.... I never saw intersexed in haze but they are 70% female." Bwuahahaha sam lol x10... Run and fetch rob as to the rediculousness of these coments.

 

[RingtailCanyon]

Nice find

 

[Tom Hill]

Come on rob and sam let's boogie down. You are wise to cower lol i in the mood to spank your ass for your crimes .

 

[Tom Hill]

Yeah... I'd keep my hole shut too.

 

[Tom Hill]

I’m thinking the current offerings use a haze/skunk intersex male
yea I’m talking about the current offerings from cultivators choice, the haze/skunk male used.
just curious. I have liked the current haze hybrids a lot been fun to grow and interesting.
anybody ever found an intersex male in a straight haze x skunk?

Skunk 1 is a boring ass glorified soapy ass perfumy mexican bud that is hermie as hell and sam had no business releasing it to a bunch of clowns who knew nothing but dutch shwag.

 

[Tom Hill]

They every single one of them crossed out to that inferior shit and the entire cannabis world has suffered since. It makes me want to puke. Dot you in your eye fat boy. You are hereby stript of your privlege to call yourself a californian lol. You are well into euro douchery and iQ 76 at best.

 

[l33t]

OH is a breeding tool. This is what has been said by Nevil and repeated by SamS for decades. And won't change suddenly in 2020.
You should listen what I do report from the OH.Not what gets reported after me.
I do not wonder of your post, since I do know very well some of Nevils selected F1 Hazes and trust what I do see in your pics.

Also for outcrossing you will need the right inbred line, and/or to do some serious selections..... Best is with something like original Seedsman OH where SamS has tried to preserve everything. OH that has been held for hay for 25 years by everybody. Not for no reason. Millions of seeds sold by SamS, like Ojd does write all the time.

Also comparing a pure sativa considered hay by everybody, with what is the most legedary indica sativa hybrid of the cannabis history? That is something that should be changed in 2021. But yours is an honest comparasion of somebody who has grown both. Inbred versions of both, at least.

How the magic works? Nobody has understood it other SamS, Nevil and Tom. Requires some time or years of progeny testing the different OH parentals, after having selected them from the right lines. My keeper OH male was the 4th I did progeny test fromn the Seedsman, which also means that at laest 4 of my parents are well progeny tested before sharing with the people. Sharing that is a whole source of information, we can all make use of.



Gollis and my lead. Please.
Without our preserving and our choice to share our lines with the people, you all would be speaking of THH, Todds and maybe OT1.
I also expect Gollis work and sharing to get respected. Not because he is silent, that his OH has inbred and performs well from alone or per coincidence. I know you do respect Nexus, but it is Gollis and me who have shared rare lines. Nobody else. No need to rewrite or cancel history in 2020, like Tom Hill has written on the other subject. Or do you want we regret our sharing?

I think you are missing the point , the point is the magic came from HazeA and hazeC , two plants out of 10 plants that Nevil got and they both passed the magic, no big selections. While all the SamS SKxHZ we grew or OH back in the 2000s was never as good AND THATS BECAUSE THEY ARE DIFFERENT LINES, not that we should mention Sam said he grew thousands of the OH, so we can assume his SK x HZ , haze selection is possibly close to his best . The seeds Nevil got were DIFFERENT and produced magic plants . They smell grow and smoke different. Being breeding material is just some crap Sam made to think the plants change from crap to magic . Well let me tell you the female haze Nevil got and the reversed hazeC he tried he said it was the best smoke he have ever had in his life. HE DIDNT HAVE TO OUTCROSS them to bring the magic out , THEY WERE ALREADY MAGIC. The truth is the OH from SAM is some inbred bad stuff which is only a pale shadow of the seeds Nevil got , you dont need to outcross it to make it fire , it was already fire and by crossing it he made it even more fire. Nevil didnt have 10% good plants 90% bad plants from his seeds. I only know Seedsman OH is "real" haze because someone found frankincense haze in there after a lot of search ( which was the best OH ive ever tried in my life btw ) , only a pale shadow of what hazes Nevil had. In the Nevils Haze f1 seed you could find almost pure haze fire plants , all fire , tell me it was fire because of the 25% outcross to nl5 that produced these fire plants and everyone will laugh.

I dont eat the outcross magic bullshit candy , I have done breeding 15 years . It was just some crap Sam made up to make his unreliable seeds look good. Thats why his SK x HZ was also crap and we flushed them down the toilet , because outcrossing doesn't create some stupid magic.

"only Sam Tom and Nevil" understand how the magic works , ha ha ha . I do too , you have good parents or you dont.

Thanks for listening,
l33t

 

[Ur Humbl Nr8tor]

bioart lol ,,,,two phenos from todds ,,top leather musk,,,bottom sharp metal

Like these a lot! Need to get some of these repros.

 

[SUPER_HAZE]

Tom you haven't found any laos or thailand line that looks like OH? Have you seen the varieties of the real seed company?

 

[Humple W.]

bioart lol ,,,,two phenos from todds ,,top leather musk,,,bottom sharp metal

How's the smoke?

 

[harvestreaper]

How's the smoke?

the leather pheno 3 is good quality uplifting long lasting 3 hours midly trippy lil body Delicious flavour not the strongest i had but i like her and intend to bred her on, already made two crosses with her,, ran her 3 times now ,,,the metal pheno 7 appeared the strongest first run and closer to what i was looking for high wise more up less body sharp citrus lurking in there to etc but i had trouble keeping mum alive so this is only second run of her,, first was small clone so ill hopefully give a better smoke report after this run

 

[CosmicGiggle]

Let's get this thread back on track while Tom contemplates his 10 day staycation, thanks!

Yeah... I'd keep my hole shut too.