The Haze discussion thread

[Donald Mallard]

its very doubtful its wet man ,
it would go moldy pretty quickly if it is ,
secondly ,, it looks very much the same as stuff I've seen folks score in thailand
wrapped in red string ,
and lastly , that is like the wrapper from tigerbalm ,
which is readily available in asia all over the place ,
and while your reading and comprehension is pretty terrible most of the time
surely you can read back a few posts ago where i said it was not thai i was talking about or posted pictures of ,
its Laos , which as i explained is next door to Thailand and where many of the growers in Thailand moved too after the crackdown ,
eradication programs there in the very early 80s.

thai stick weed stopped a long time ago and it never looked like that hempy ,
this is not thai , its from a country next door . hope i don't have to repeat that again...

 

[Donald Mallard]

We Had Thai stick and then compressed Thai sativa same smoke my mate that traveled to Thai land always got an oz on landing that was never on a stick.

this was probably laos too .. by 86 its doubtful much commercial weed was being grown in Thailand...

 

[@hempy]

its very doubtful its wet man ,
it would go moldy pretty quickly if it is ,
secondly ,, it looks very much the same as stuff I've seen folks score in thailand
wrapped in red string ,
and lastly , that is like the wrapper from tigerbalm ,
which is readily available in asia all over the place ,
and while your reading and comprehension is pretty terrible most of the time
surely you can read back a few posts ago where i said it was not thai i was talking about or posted pictures of ,
its Laos , which as i explained is next door to Thailand and where many of the growers in Thailand moved too after the crackdown ,
eradication programs there in the very early 80s.

thai stick weed stopped a long time ago and it never looked like that hempy ,
this is not thai , its from a country next door . hope i don't have to repeat that again...

That looks far from Dry Donald look at the packaging no way that came from Thailand to the UK in a ship the Thai sativa flowers even compressed dont look like that.

The writing is Chinese not Thai and last time i looked red string or red cotton is found every were that don't make it Thai.

I can read so you going to tell me a Thai sativa wont grow the same in Laos considering Laos is across the river from Thailand that would be a odd thing.

The Laos–Thailand border is the international border between the territory of Laos and Thailand. The border is 1,845 km (1,146 m) in length, over half of which follows the Mekong River, and runs from the tripoint with Myanmar in the north to tripoint with Cambodia in the south.

 

[@hempy]

this was probably laos too .. by 86 its doubtful much commercial weed was being grown in Thailand...

No it was Thai grown by Thais sold by a Thai and the same guy who got us the Golden Buddha line.

 

[Donald Mallard]

That looks far from Dry Donald look at the packaging no way that came from Thailand to the UK in a ship the Thai sativa flowers even compressed dont look like that.

The writing is Chinese not Thai and last time i looked red string or red cotton is found every were that don't make it Thai.

I can read so you going to tell me a Thai sativa wont grow the same in Laos considering Laos is across the river from Thailand that would be a odd thing.

The Laos–Thailand border is the international border between the territory of Laos and Thailand. The border is 1,845 km (1,146 m) in length, over half of which follows the Mekong River, and runs from the tripoint with Myanmar in the north to tripoint with Cambodia in the south.

Hempy hempy hempy ,
you are a difficult old chap arent you ,

no red string doesn't make it thai or laos ,
but given its the exact presentation I've seen ,
and folks have also described finding in Thailand from laos ,
then we can draw a conclusion that is quite possibly the origin ,
it doesn't matter how it got to its destination ,
there has always been issues with importing illegal substances into countries ,
it has never stopped it happening though ...
only a % gets intercepted , most of it arrives successfully ...
borders , customs etc , ,these have only ever been hurdles ,
they are breached every single day man ...
you say its imported also , they have to overcome the same obstacles ,
somehow they managed didn't they??

and no the weed isn't wet of course ,
folks don't tend to export wet weed because by the time it arrives at the destination,
its gone moldy and no one will buy it ,
maybe you cant tell by the photo and your just surmising, wrongly too imo...

did i say thai weed grown in laos ,
nope i said its from laos , laos , laos , laos ,
you see the photos i put up a few pages ago also ,
its from laos ....

its starting to get on my nerves now ,
you are an extremely obtuse individual hempy
and that comment has nothing to do with angles btw...

 

[vanilla dutch]

Cambodian Thai bud 2021.

 

[@hempy]

That is not dry or dose it look like normal compressed Thia Donald i never ever saw Thai sativa look like that no matter if it was imported in or if we grew it here ow self's and once you dried it and cured it to stop the sweating Thai looked like Thai clearly you dont like being wrong.

I find it funny and yet sad at the same time you completely dispel my mate was buying Thia grow in Thailand in 1986 how would you know you were not there he was and the seed his mate sourced for us the Golden Buddha was very special i wish i still had that to be honest.

This is what Thia sativa looks like when compressed Donald .

 

[vanilla dutch]

HEMPY. U just posted a pic of dirt weed. Credibility is out the window with u .look at the post above u. Actual thai buds.as spicy as it can get.

 

[@hempy]

What you posted looks like a Dutch hybrid clearly you were not around smoking the Thai sativa imports or real Thai sativas.

This is what a Thia sativa flower looks like after it has been dried and cure right before it was compressed.

 

[Donald Mallard]

That is not dry or dose it look like normal compressed Thia Donald i never ever saw Thai sativa look like that no matter if it was imported in or if we grew it here ow self's and once you dried it and cured it to stop the sweating Thai looked like Thai clearly you dont like being wrong.

I find it funny and yet sad at the same time you completely dispel my mate was buying Thia grow in Thailand in 1986 how would you know you were not there he was and the seed his mate sourced for us the Golden Buddha was very special i wish i still had that to be honest.

This is what Thia sativa looks like when compressed Donald .


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the compressed weed was from laos hempy ,
its not thai anyhow man ,
there was not enough thai stick to fill the market ,
they outsourced and also used weed from neighboring countries . like laos ,
so that compressed stuff you posted is more than likely laos weed anyhow not thai ...

it doesn't matter what you saw man ,
you surmised the 80s was the last imports to Australia also ,
but you were wrong , you look from a small window,
with a bunch of preconceived ideas ,
and you definitely do not see the whole picture ...

how can you tell if that weed is dry from a picture ,
you definitely cant man , are u aware weed goes moldy if its left wet ??
you try putting wet weed in a bag for a few weeks and see how it goes ..

how do you know what your mate got in Thailand was grown in Thailand ,
you cant know ,(thai people regularly tell westerners what ever they want to hear to sell a product btw)
and it most likely was not grown there if it was ounces of compressed pot ,
that is more likely grown in laos then imported to Thailand just like it still is today ...

I'm done posting about this now , its a waste of my time given your lack of knowledge and stubbornness to learn anything new ...
enjoy your misinformation and ridiculous theories ...

 

[vanilla dutch]

What you posted looks like a Dutch hybrid clearly you were not around smoking the Thai sativa imports or real Thai sativas.

This is what a Thia sativa flower looks like after it has been dried and cure right before it was compressed.

Im around rite now today.again another dirt post.look man u know nuthin.that bud i posted is from cambodia. Your words hold no weight.u look ignorant to everyone.ur a nobody.move on.

 

[Chi13]

HEMPY. U just posted a pic of dirt weed. Credibility is out the window with u .look at the post above u. Actual thai buds.as spicy as it can get.

Actually what hempy posted looks to be authentic Laos or Thai compressed pure sativa's. Likely a fantastic smoke either way. I am not sure you understand what people are talking about when they reference old Thai stick or compressed Laos.

 

[Chi13]

Im around rite now today.again another dirt post.look man u know nuthin.that bud i posted is from cambodia. Your words hold no weight.u look ignorant to everyone.ur a nobody.move on.

Cambodia? So you went there and purchased that bud you posted? Strange because you seem to post a lot of bud that you purchased in the US, or claim to have grown inside a freemason lodge.

I don't always agree with hempy, but he knows a lot more about pure south Asian sativa's than you seem to do. You are just coming accross as some ignorant kid.

 

[Gypsy Nirvana]

Wilai Kampilool checks flowers and leaves of the Thai Stick variety known as 'Hang Krarok' - He has 16 of them in his garden. (Photo by Karnjana Karnjanatawe) -

- Happily today cannabis cultivation in Thailand is not quite as restricted as it used to be - and by the looks of it the Thai Stick could make an international resurgence -

After retiring as a school teacher two years ago, Wilai Kampilool, now 62, spends his time farming. His house is located in Ban Sok Nak, in tambon Hin Lek Fai in Buri Ram's Khu Muang district. The village has recently become a destination for those who want to learn about or see ganja (marijuana) plants.

"I never thought that one day I would get involved in growing ganja. Since a young age, I've been told that it was a narcotic. However, the more I learned about its health benefits, the more interested I've become in growing the plant. I told myself 'why not', " said Wilai.

"I fully support the government in legalising ganja so that we can plant and use it for curing sicknesses. Using ganja as a medical herb is tapping into our old wisdom and something we should preserve," he said.

Ban Sok Nak is a small village located about 30km away from Buri Ram and about 420km northeast of Bangkok. Most of the villagers here are farmers and they earn a living growing sugarcane, farming crickets or raising silkworms for silk woven clothes.

Growing ganja has provided new hope for the villagers to diversify their income. Since the government legalised the use of cannabis for medicinal and research purposes in Feb 2019, ganja has become a highly-regarded cash crop. The Kasikorn Research Centre forecasts that the market value of medical cannabis in Thailand will reach anywhere between 3.6 billion to 7.2 billion baht this year.

To further promote cannabis cultivation among households, Deputy Prime Minister and Public Health Minister Anutin Charnvirakul launched the Non Malai model in Ban Sok Nak on Feb 11. He handed over cannabis seeds to the Non Malai Thai Herb Community Enterprise and this marked the first step to allow households to legally grow six ganja plants in their yards.

The movement is also pushing to transform Buri Ram's image into the "City Of Ganja" and also the location where the ganja expo is expected to be scheduled annually. In the meantime, ganja clinics are gradually opening. More than 15 community enterprises are farming cannabis plants to supply dry flowers to local hospitals to produce cannabis oil.

Moreover, market demand for ganja in the food and cosmetic industry is also booming. After the government pulled ganja leaves, stalks, stumps and roots from the narcotic list on Dec 15 last year, some local restaurants and resorts are now offering food and drinks with a mix of ganja leaves (the flowers and seeds are still in the type-5 narcotic list). Prototypes of health products are still under development and soon, spa and wellness centres in Buri Ram will offer these with ganja extract.

SIX PLANTS PER HOUSEHOLD

At present, individuals are not allowed to farm cannabis and hemp unless they register themselves as a community enterprise. Each group must have at least seven members and must have contact with a local hospital, including small-scale Tambon Health Promotion Hospitals (THPH).

In Ban Sok Nak, the Non Malai Thai Herb Community Enterprise has partnered with Non Malai THPH.

Wilai is among the first seven people who are legally allowed to grow six marijuana plants in his garden. Every morning, he waters the plants and checks the stems, leaves and soil. He gently flips up some leaves and when he finds yellow spots caused by spider mites, he carefully removes the tiny bugs by hand. Sometimes, he uses natural pesticides like neem oil to spray on sick leaves.

"Chemicals are not allowed since our group grows the plant for medical purposes. We know that our plants have to be safe from hazardous chemicals," he said.

The plants must be grown in a secure environment and within 10m of a home. The construction of the nursery where the plant grows is simple -- it is made of bamboo poles with green scaffolding mesh and a barbed-wire fence. The entrance door must have a lock and two signboards, one which must state that the site is for the production of a type-5 narcotic while the other must show the name and the address of the owner. The Buri Ram Agricultural Office also records how many ganja plots there are in its system by using GPS coordinates.

Health volunteers known as aor sor mor visit the nurseries daily and check the plant's health. If they find dry or fallen leaves, they will collect them and measure the weight. They report the data daily to the hospital, which then submits the report to the Department of Food and Drug Administration. Each week, local police also pay a visit to check the safety of the site. Wilai has a CCTV camera to record every movement inside the nursery.

From the village roadside, the ganja garden plot looks like a typical nursery and easy to break into. Fortunately, there has been no attempt so far.

"The project is a joint venture among people in our community. Everyone knows who is growing ganja in our village," said Riam Seetha, 43, chief of public health volunteers.

"There is no need to break the rule," she said.

Above Ganja cookies are available at the Ganja and Hemp Expo in Buri Ram. Karnjana Karnjanatawe

Riam also grows six ganja plants in her garden. She believes it is another form of making merit.

"Although I had to invest about 5,000 baht for the nursery and buy water for the plants, I am glad to do so because my ganja will be used to cure people's sickness," she said.

Within the next couple of months, the plants will mature and the ganja flowers will be harvested and sold to Tambon Health Promotion Hospital of Non Malai. After harvest, the grower will be able to use or sell leaves, stalks, stumps and roots. Riam plans to use leaves to enhance the taste of food and snacks for sale under the name of the community enterprise. The food that will be mixed with ganja leaves includes deep-fried crickets (jingreed lanla), chilly dip (nam phrik susa) and sugar cane juice.

"I look forward to harvest. I don't know how much I can earn but I am confident that it will be fruitful," she said.

MEDICAL GRADE FARM

About 18km north of Ban Sok Nak, ganja plants are cultivated in an indoor farm in a garden zone of Play La Ploen Boutique Resort and Adventure Camp on Road No 2074 in Khu Muang district.

The facility used to be a tulip nursery but now it is an air-conditioned room with a humidity control system. The property's owner, Pornthip Asadathorn, has offered the nursery to Play La Ploen Herbal Community Enterprise (PHC) for farming medical-grade cannabis.

"I provide the facility to PHC for free because I want to support people living near our property to have extra income," she said.

Before growing ganja plants, 30 PHC members grew herbs and vegetables in an organic farm in the resort for six years. The vegetables were supplied to the resort's kitchen while the herbs were sent to Khu Muang hospital. When the hospital opened a Medical Cannabis Clinic almost two years ago, they searched for local cannabis suppliers and the hospital chose to work with PHC.

Right The Charlotte Angel variety is grown by Play La Ploen Herbal Community Enterprise. Karnjana Karnjanatawe

PHC has partnered with the Government Pharmaceutical Organisation (GPO) to start its medical cannabis cultivation project. During the first year, the community grew four varieties of ganja plants, including Hang Krarok and Tanow Sri, which belong to the Thai varieties and two imported varieties -- Sensi and Charlotte Angle -- whose seeds they received from the GPO. The group later chose to grow only the Charlotte Angel variety from the Netherlands. "The Charlotte Angel variety has high CBD output. It is the compound that Khu Muang Hospital needs to cure patients who have epilepsy, Parkinson's and Alzheimer's disease," she said.

Based on the requirements of the hospital, the community enterprise grows about 90 ganja plants per crop. Last year, the group supplied its first cultivation of 6kg of ganja flowers to the hospital for free, said Sasikarn Lorjilopart, the chairwoman of PHC.

After the first harvest, the leftovers had to be destroyed but the group converted it for use as fertiliser.

The community enterprise started to earn from its second crop after Khu Muang Hospital bought the dry flowers for 40,000 baht per kilogramme. After the second harvest, Khu Muang allowed the farmer group to take advantage of leaves, roots and stems. Today, the group partners with universities to produce healthcare products under the PHC brand. They have sample prototype products of toner, sunscreen, soap, toothpaste and herbal drinks. The products will soon be available for sale in Arokaya Wellness Sala in Play La Ploen Boutique Resort and Adventure Camp.

Recently, PHC has also worked with the Characterisation and Testing Centre of the National Science and Technology Development Agency (NSTDA) to test the quality and safety of cannabis plants. "Soon we will expand the facility to a 360m² room. This farm will be able to grow up to 800 plants," said Sasikarn.

The new facility will also have an observation window to facilitate visitors. They can see how the group grow the plants. Not far from the cannabis cultivation room, Play La Ploen has a Cannabis Learning Centre that provides knowledge about cannabis and hemp to general visitors.

"Play La Ploen Herbal Community Enterprise is like a one-stop-shop for those who want to grow cannabis," said Panida Krongsanan, an agriculturist of the farm. "We have had many trial and errors until we found the best solution for growing ganja for medicinal purposes. We are willing to provide the knowledge to those who are interested as we believe knowledge is for sharing," she added.

link: Ganja -- a future cash crop? (bangkokpost.com)

 

[yesum]

^^ You notice they have a 6 plant limit. Copy cali much? The whole thing started here. I hate cali btw but credit is due. I will skip the deep-fried crickets but take the Thai Stick please. Would the Thai Stick pictured do justice to what ThaiBliss loved so much? The guy is old enough to have saved good seeds.

 

[vanilla dutch]

Old internet pictures with a history lesson included. Versus actual bud shot from 2021.wow. U guys are a trip.no wonder u guys get into arguements.

 

[CannaT]

schwag weed is cheap, low-grade marijuana, often produced in large quantities and under unfavorable conditions.

THAT WHAT YOU POST HEMPY IS JUST SCHWAG AND NOTHING MORE.

IN AFRICA 20EUR KG IN ALBANIA 100EUR KG....ALL IN ALL I RATHER NOT SMOKE THAN SMOKE THOSE SCHWAG....EVEN PREMIUM CBD IS BETTER.

 

[@hempy]

schwag weed is cheap, low-grade marijuana, often produced in large quantities and under unfavorable conditions.

THAT WHAT YOU POST HEMPY IS JUST SCHWAG AND NOTHING MORE.

IN AFRICA 20EUR KG IN ALBANIA 100EUR KG....ALL IN ALL I RATHER NOT SMOKE THAN SMOKE THOSE SCHWAG....EVEN PREMIUM CBD IS BETTER.

You keep growing you high grade CBD swag CANNATORIUM and leave the cannabis chat to the people that like getting high.

 

[JohnnyChicago]

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Reminds me some of the stuff I used to smoke in Thailand 20 years ago.
I guess it's what the Thais called lao ganja.
Not sure, but it's something I have often seen there.

 

[@hempy]

Hi Johnny i only ever saw Thai in sticks and compressed form imported here but all had the same smell and color and taste even the plants we grew here from those genetics were the same after harvest.

The last genetics we collected came from Thailand in 86 from with in Thailand given to a close friend by a friend he had made and he was told it was the best Thai sativa in Thailand called golden Buddha.

There are Thai sativa lines here that are 40 plus years here still being grown by some people the flower pics i posted vanilla dutch calls dirt came from seed found in imported Thai sticks in 1978.