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The growing large plants, outdoors, thread...

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Blessings!

Blessings!

Nomad: Thanks for the Blessings on the precious ladies!!! I use zip ties for everything (cages, bamboo, fence posts, and Hortonova netting; I even reinforced a laundry line for my wife with them today.):tiphat: Re-read your question: slip tees with the PVC pipes - that is just a small frame for a tarp for a 4 plant light dep starting in about a week... However, it could work well as a frame for rapping Hortonova come August... Currently, using the 1st training cage after plugging plants in, then once they stretch and need more support a 2nd much larger cage is placed around the trees (Hortonova laced over the top) with long bamboo posts rising 2 - 4' above the bigger cage (this way you can drop more Hortonava netting as needed while tree continues to stretch), and finally T posts as the last frame with Hortonova supporting boughs and buds.

At any rate, keep up the hard work... Look forward to your updates.
As always, Blessings & Respect in advance. Peace!
 
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Holy shit,

Make way for Fill because Fill knows wtf Fill is doing. Bout to give us all a lesson in exponential growth in those 12 footers. The yang to answer Mr. Miyagi's yin etc. As soon as a single root finds the edge of the container, growth slows and we're pushing rocks uphill from there. It is at this point that our skill will be put to the test. Forget about root bound, and all these other ridiculous "move plants up one pot at a time" theories, they are all for folks who never mastered the art of watering. Yep, Fill will teach us a thing or two this year, mark my words. Kill it big Fill.

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soon I guess, in talks with a couple folks now about it.

HL, spectacular amigo. They are already touching in mid-June. Again, now our skill will be put to the test.

I guess soon it's time to go ahead and try to tackle the ultimate challenge, The rarely spoke of truth that many of us can spot in each others gardens in a blink of the eye come Sept. Soil born diseases, and what we'll do to stay on top and head them off at the pass.

All is well out this way, got em right where we want em. Supplemental lighting is down for the season as of today. -T

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Looking good bro. We ran our lights for the last night as well yesterday. Real good feeling. Looking Dreamy as usual on your end.
 

resin_lung

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12 footers! Yeah, fill's gonna kill it! Can't wait!

Yours are looking a little on the small side Tom! lol JK amigo. They look great as always.
 

MedResearcher

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I hope that works out Tom, if it does please let us know where ^^

Been craving some DC pollen ever since I first saw it..

Only DC I had the pleasure of growing out was the DC x SC that was offered at BlueSky for a while, would love to have it in its pure form.

Mr^^
 

cfo

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Had to put out seedlings at a size which would normally be a little too small. They only had 4 leaves each. I put cages around them and the plan was to sprinkle diatomaceous earth and slug poison around the outside of the cages the next day (today). When I went to check on them today, 3 of 6 were chewed down to the ground. Do you think these 3 have any chance of growing back? I don't know if it was slugs or ants that did the damage but the diatomaceous earth and slug poison I put around the cages should keep them at bay. What do you think? Write those 3 off or and plant 3 more, or wait and see?
 

nomaad

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if there is still an internode with new growth emerging, you have a chance for recovery. If not, I would say that you are SOL. Sorry for your troubles.

I'd plant 3 more just to be safe.
 
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To stop soil borne disease - Pre Stop WP & Myco Stop WP

www.verdera.fi

Thanks to Nspecta for that one!

Fill - Very nice all around , The Cracker Jack x High End sounds unique. Is that GC / Jack?
 
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theJointedOne

Whats up trinity, hows it going? welcome to icmag lol and thanks for the nice link :)
 
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As soon as a single root finds the edge of the container, growth slows and we're pushing rocks uphill from there. It is at this point that our skill will be put to the test.
I've wondered about that...mainly about the root thing. For sure the plant has to sense where it's boundaries are through it's roots then shift gear a bit.
 

onerha

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Has anyone found the optimal pot size? We're experimenting with 200gal, 300gal and a few 500 gallon smart pots this year to try to see which one is most cost effective to grow... just curious if anyone has found the perfect size?
 

nomaad

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my opinion: it will depend on your strain and how long you are vegging the plant. i would say it will always be "cost effective" to bump up 100 gallons because it would only take 1/4 lb more to account for the cost in dirt, pot, nutes and labor. You are going to have to veg em longer and get them bigger in the preseason to utilize the dirt. but that 100 gallon bump in dirt will serve you..all the way up to 600 gallons, at least.
 
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Brewing Up a Lively Batch!

Brewing Up a Lively Batch!

I brewed up my first nitrogen tea last Sunday: Bird Guano, Thrive Alive, Hygrozyme, Feather Meal, Age Old Grow (12-6-6), compost, 20% worm castings, Mykos, and Alfalfa Meal. Had the Alfalfa Meal left over from last season. Does anybody in the farming community ever use Alfalfa Meal? Did a little research on it the other night (see below) sounds like a great amendment.


ALFALFA MEAL (3N-lP-2K)


Alfalfa meal or pellets is one of the green manure crops and contains small amounts of nitrogen, phosphorous and potassium which feed the plant. However, the biggest benefit of alfalfa is from the work it does in the soil. Alfalfa contains the hormone, Triacontanol, a plant growth regulator. Alfalfa meal can be top dressed and watered in. But quicker benefits are had when alfalfa is brewed into a tea. The primary boost comes from the millions of microbes in the fermented meal that activate the soil organisms that then convert nutrients into forms available to plants. Roses love it. Only apply alfalfa to the surface. If placed in the root zone, the rapid decomposition of alfalfa will generate heat which can damage the roots.

Triacontanol is a naturally occurring plant hormone that acts as a growth promoter. Triacontanol raises plant yield by improving photosynthesis and cell division.

Also, curious what others are using in their aerated compost tea: Last year I used a feather solution, kelp, humic and fulvic acid, liquid Karma, arctic humus, and numerous brands of beneficial bacteria and fungal mediums, along with various forms of the above ingredients. Experimented with Verde from Humbolt Nutrients, 3D, and Earth Juice. Friends and relatives turned me onto Age Old Organics at the end of the season. Everyone had great results using their Grow and Bloom mix. So, I'm using it this year in my aerated brews and cutting out the other brand names.

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nomaad

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Hell yeah. Alfalfa meal is part of my soil mix and a component in my tea recipe (yet to be implemented) and a couple of the products I use. Last year I used Massive by Green Planet which is also a Triacontinol source, but I believe its from bee byproducts rather than alfalfa.

I was very impressed by studies I read on Triacontinol that were done in India. I'll look for links to the studies.

I use Roots Trinity instead of Liquid Karma and I use some Old Age organics products... does anybody know if they are actually Organic? The only place that its mentioned is in the brand name... nowhere else on the packaging does it say its organic...
 
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In the microbulator last time : 1 gallon activated compost 1/2 gal arctic humus
1 gal fish 1 gal kelp 4oz Humisolve 1/4 cup yucca and towards the end of brewing i threw in 8oz of Myco Apply Soluble...(same type thing as RTI's Mykos)

The microbulator is 55 gallons.
 
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