The growing large plants, outdoors, thread...

[nomaad]

TJO: Seems like you would lose all the pressure from the 30 foot drop by going uphill 25 feet after the manifold. Can't see it working. As perPurpur's question... methinks you only have 5 ft of effective head which means no way on the 10 psi.

 

[planty]

I will come up and help you out tJO as soon as I have a free minute. Bring that WX10 pump and 1.25" manifold and parts. We will go to town and get the 1.25 hose you need. Get all the transfer Ts etc., that you will want and we'll get it laid out in an afternoon.

 

[MedResearcher]

As far as PSI in a gravity feed situation, the size of the line is irrelevant. It is a simple equation.

Elevation drop/2.3 = PSI

Size of the line is more for the flow.

 

[nomaad]

hence the 23 feet=10psi. good to know. thanks.

 

[Guido Sarducci]

Don't know if anyone is still interested in the moisture meters anymore but here's a link to a manufacturer that has them with 18", 24", 36" and 48" length probes:

http://www.irrometer.com/sensors.html

 

[theJointedOne]

hey so if any of you dudes run with that idea and make a product id like a percentage, it was my idea, lol

 

[GrnMtFinn]

what do you guys think of this soil mix?

-two parts fox farm ocean forest
-two parts happy frog mix
-one part earthworm castings
-one part perlite
-some sand for volume.

i will top-dress with earthworm castings later

 

[localhero]

if youre searching for added bulk density by adding sand, why not just up something more beneficial than sand. it looks like what you have already is pretty dense. probably just up the perlite content.

im just guessing. theres lots of successful mixes on here. if youre gonna buy your medium premade why not go with black gold and Toms mix?

 

[GrnMtFinn]

well it's a hell of a lot better than last year, only a shitty bag of scotts potting soil in an 8 inch pot with a male in it.

 

[Dr. Purpur]

hmmm

 

[theJointedOne]

im starting to agree with butte this thread is just getting awy from its intentions

 

[BotanicalBill]

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[localhero]

Tom talked about his mix getting warm before its properly rested. that happened to me too. I remember him saying something like 80 degrees and below before you can plant in it. did you wet the soil? im not trying to speak for him. i just remember i asked a similar question.

 

[nomaad]

Your soil can absolutely be too hot to plant in... both in terms of temperature and nutrients. Both will fuck up your plants. Hope all the pros have not abandoned us along with Butte. I would like to hear what they have to say on this subject.

 

[humboldtlocal]

My soil mix in my 300 gallon pots had to sit for over three weeks. It was hot. We would dig out a shovel full and it would be steaming. When it finally cooled to about 80 we planted but we also did a thick buffer zone of unamended Roots Organic soil around the root ball just to make sure they wouldn't get cooked. I have fried plants before with some hot mixes. It ain't pretty.

 

[Tom Hill]

My friend the chemists says plants love 100f soil temps, I assure you guys he's done the controled experiments too. If you are thinking of going a little early, closer to two weeks instead of 3, water again now and you should be ok in a week - at week 2 with a watering in at transplant. I disagree with the chemist on this point (100f) and worry about root damage providing an infection court for things like fusarium. I know Butte would agree with this too, I know he thinks he'll skate around such things with teas and no hole turning and such (watch guys, this may get brother Butte back in here, lol, I saw him cruising the halls this morning). Butte is right about the crap in here, I am as guilty as anybody in regards to the larf and will clean this thread up (as well as get caught up with PM's and many other threads) as soon as I'm caught up with la grande terraza, yet to be unveiled - it's gobbling-up all my time for now.

Every single garden I've posted, or will post this year of outdoor, I've used the exact same soil recipe that is listed at the start of this thread. It works, it works really well. Don't worry folks, it's time tested and rocks the house.

Time laps, over the crappiest spring in 100 years. -T

April 22

May 26

 

[Private Joker]

upset plants

upset plants

OK OK

Here is a more severe example, these plants are upset, they are having problems with transpiration rates due to insufficient root matter, too much up top. The are wanting to shut down and shed leaves. But, the same clone, smaller, same transplant day, same soil, same site, coming out of the same greenhouse etc, etc, are having no problems at all, very happy. It happens, but it is much preferred that it's happening now than sucking up two weeks of June.

I'm plugging another garden in the next few days. I think I'll go ahead and give cloning wax a try maybe, it should help quite a bit. Too late for these though I reckon. But they'll be fine in due time.

How are the plants doing?

 

[BrianBadonde]

My friend the chemists says plants love 100f soil temps, I assure you guys he's done the controled experiments too.

I have found this to be true with regard to some "strains", some seem to love the heat and a arid atmosphere/enviroment, Chemo did for some reason, I've also treated Sour D this way to have good results.. maybe a connection to Mexican heritage or such?

 

[darwinsbulldog]

amazing stuff mate!

 

[BotanicalBill]

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