The growing large plants, outdoors, thread...

[odkin]

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I've ordered the book, and looking forward to sitting down with it. Thanks again for this!

 

[theJointedOne]

yep that...the silica has some mold fighting properties of its own.

I tend to avoid kelp latte in flower...not 100% sure but fear the cytokinins delay the plant finishing.

interesting, ty for the info

 

[OptionDork]

I was told decades ago by someone who lived at 2500ft that I could expect fatter buds closer to sea level, and elongated thinner buds at high elevations off the same plant. I dont know that his were any later then mine though.

There was a study done in Switzerland, I believe, many years back and they showed lower elevation plants yielded better yet higher elevation plants had a higher concentration of cannabinoids.

 

[OptionDork]

Option, your post seems a strange reply and I don't quite know how to respond. I'm aware of what causes red in leaves, I never implied it had anything to do with anything but being a gorgeous plant. I don't know why you'd point that out in a quote.

Not strange from where I stand just saying what you see are carotenoids. It was simply a statement of fact. Those are interesting compounds as they capture a different spectrum of the sun's light compared to chlorophyll. If you can enhance carotenoid content, which you can, you can translate more of the sun's available energy into plant energy.

Did I say that plant did not look cool or there was something wrong? In fact I said it makes for a pretty picture.

 

[OptionDork]

Option, your post seems a strange reply and I don't quite know how to respond. I'm aware of what causes red in leaves, I never implied it had anything to do with anything but being a gorgeous plant. I don't know why you'd point that out in a quote.

I wanted to follow up. Here's a pic of a plant I posted here on IC Mag 5-24-08...yes I've been here that long and in fact much longer...page 26 of this thread:
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=54915&highlight=riser&page=26

The mom finished September 15 and the purple had nothing to do with temps or the nutrient program. It smelled like Welch's grape juice in flower yet a day or two after cutting the smell disappeared and did not come back until after about 4 months of cure. Either way the smoke still tasted like dirt. The high type was not impressive yet still OK. Yield was acceptable and bud structure kind of sucked. Still though a great early finisher. It was a totally mutant varietal of Early Riser.

That mom was crossed to Kali Mist and about 50% of the offspring showed the same trait. I sent most of the remaining beans I had to Tony at Sagarmatha and in return he sent me back a bunch of Western Winds beans. The pic is of an Early Riser x Kali Mist plant grown guerilla upstate New York and the early finishing quality was appreciated. This plant was grown by Alwaysoutdoor who has long since moved to Cali and growing a nice forest.

Color is pretty and means nothing really when it comes to herb quality. I stopped being impressed with pretty plants a long time ago. Still nice to look at.

 

[OrganicBuds]

I hear ya on that OptionDork, I ran a Magenta99 from dutch grown that was one of the prettiest plants I had grown. Two years after I harvested her I just gave away 3 elbows of it. Never liked it one bit.

 

[Carlos Danger]

Option, we all know colour isn't tied to potency. You're preaching to the choir. All you're doing is pointing out you're not impressed by colour in plants. That's fine. Many of us are gardeners and enjoy these displays though. You don't need to lay out a dissertation on colour and potency OR send me hostile PMs over things I didn't say. Edit: For the record, your purple plant is very pretty. I'm sorry she didn't smoke well.

 

[great brozini]

Pics should start getting real interesting now! Hope to see lots of big fat colas

 

[GreenHands13]

Its definitley getting smelly around here.

 

[ponocrookedbrah]

sweet garden and wow so healthy!

 

[calientecarlos]

Just lovely GH13!!

 

[ponocrookedbrah]

Bog sour strawberry x reservoir chemsour I hope it smells like strawberry baby poop when finished

 

[GreenHands13]

Dam dwarfing that pot beautiful plant man

 

[GreenHands13]

Sour dream

Dj short blueberry there way in already about 2 more weeks till I start pulling them down

 

[milkyjoe]

 

[ponocrookedbrah]

GH13 mad props that garden is pro!!

 

[GreenHands13]

Appreciate it guys its cool to hear good things from great growers like you guys

 

[stickyicky009]

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http://s1146.photobucket.com/user/ickybuds2012/media/OutD13/DSC09030_zps7229f5b6.jpg.html

 

[calientecarlos]

GH13 you def got it down apparently... Salud!!

SI009 Ill macro shot on the pink stigmata!!

 

[Astrobabe123]

Does Tom Hill use bloom nutes or anything else for bloom or is watering enough??

Does Tom Hill use bloom nutes or anything else for bloom or is watering enough??

Hey, I have been searching all over this thread trying to see what Tom Hill uses for bloom. Does he just water since he already heavly amended his boxes and has good soil biology. Or is there anyone out there who grows 10 pounders who amends there soil and doesn have to use bottled bloom fertilizer.Im really curious if Tom does since he published his soil recipe and analysis..?

If anyone could tell me what page or any insight I would greatly appreciate it!