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The extent of a drug dog's smelling ability?

badboyg

Member
BLING your NOT helping ..

most your posts I have seen are questionable at best,

your comment about the B-nut butter and gas tank is a MYTH,, they can smell the hand prints full of weed placed while packing and stashing in the tank..... NOT the weed in the gas.....
 

raeky

Member
Thats entirely propaganda. Terpinoids from the pot (the stuff that smells) can't go through glass, and is completely dissolved by gasoline, so if you had it sealed in glass a dog couldn't smell it, likewise if you had it in a container submerged in gasoline a dog couldn't smell it. What they could smell is any residue that was anywhere else on the car...

Odor molecules can't go through glass, don't go through a liquid.

But dogs are very good at detecting free air borne scents, and odors can seep through most plastics. Plus even the most microscopic amount of residue that would be left on you, your clothes, or anything you touched after touching pot is also easily detectable.
 

Joe A. Grower

Active member
raeky said:
But dogs are very good at detecting free air borne scents, and odors can seep through most plastics. Plus even the most microscopic amount of residue that would be left on you, your clothes, or anything you touched after touching pot is also easily detectable.

You're dead on there. I have a friend who is an ex-cop who told me about a demonstration they did for the cadets when he was in police academy. The dog handler pulled out a little bag of cocaine -- less than a gram. He then went around the room and laid the bag down in several places. That's it. He just laid it down, left it there for a few seconds, and then picked it back up.

When he brought the dog into the room and told him to start the search, that furry little sonofabitch hit on every single location where the coke used to be! The residue on the outside of the bag that had seeped through the plastic was all that dog needed.

I would suspect, however, if you have a very tightly sealed jar full of pot or coke, and you thoroughly clean the outside with some solvent like alcohol or gasoline, a dog probably wouldn't be able to smell it. They aren't magical, but they are damn good at what they do.
 
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About Drug Dogs Abilitys?

About Drug Dogs Abilitys?

stoned teacher said:
Do you think a drug sniffing dog would pick up them smell of my grow (7 plankt, 1kw) from about 300 feet away?

If so, would a dog give an indication or lead a police to my door or do they only give a cue when asked to smell something/an area. I'm not sure if they're "always on duty"

Finally, would that be legal ground in the USA for Police to begin looking around my property/around my house, to look for more indicaions to use to get a warrent?

I'm aksing because I have become aware that a dog in he middle of training to be a drug sniffing dog has moved into a house not too far from mine. I'm worried he may walk near my house and start giving signals.

Here are a copy pages of information I have posted online on the ability of the Police Drug Dog's Ability to smell pot grow op's & drugs

I hope they help you with your situation :)

Man’s Best Friend The Dog? About Drug Dogs
http://www.onlinepot.org/legal/mansbestfriend.htm

Concealment Tips Written By A Government Trained Ex Drug & Dog Handler
http://www.onlinepot.org/legal/trainertips.htm

Stay Well
Chris/OLP
 

o.gkushowns

18 and Doh!
I have experience with dog as every year when I go to NZ to visit family I get strip searched because of the dogs.

-I don't smoke 3 days before the flight

-I change all my clothes, socks and underwear from when I smoked

-I shower several times

The fuckin dog still gets me and I admit that I smoked within that week, they strip search me and they let me leave. Every single fucking year arghhhh

anyway that should help you with how insanely good those dogs are (well bad for us)
peace
 
G

Guest

I breed, raise and train hog dogs. My main goal in breeding is a good nose. I have found that my females alert more consistantly than the males. I don't know if it is because they have better noses or if its because they consintrate and take thier job more serious. I can throw a dried pig ear ( which is dried around a stone for weight) as far out in an overgrown alfalfa field as I can and my males will find it about 70% of the time..usually at thier own leasure. My females on the other hand will look for it as if the world depended on it being found....and at a 100% rate. I use these dogs to root up razorbacks in the Florida swamp. Even the high water level don't seem to affect thier smelling ability. I have 1 female that can follow cold trails with amazing success. I have seen what these dogs can find so I have no doubt that a well trained drug sniffer can be very dangerous to us smokers. I'm just glad that the LEO doesn't have my bloodline.

Seed
 

Pythagllio

Patient Grower
Veteran
If it's likely a dog will alert after drugs have been removed wtf is their sniff considered probable cause of anything?

Good news in the Supreme Court today letting the FL ruling stand. Would have been better to get a decision upholding but it's nice to know the precedent is there. Details for those unaware, man in FL was arrested for possession in his car, cops now want to search his home, the cops took a dog to his front door, it indicated, they got a search warrant, seized 64 plants, the dog sniff was ruled illegal search based on Kyllo, the evidence gathered in the home tossed.
 

badboyg

Member
CLOTHES SHIT.. ok any way to wash this crap out.,.. I mean how much do we track this shit around on us????? I have wondered just how much scent is tranfred just by our touching our weed and clothes.,...
 

raeky

Member
i'd imagine that the amount of smoke clothes are subjected too the less likely it is to wash out. THC and other cannabinoids and terpinoids are very non-polar, and although laundry detergent is a very powerful soap it may not be enough to remove them in a normal wash.

Without some pretty strict testing it would be hard to determine how much smoke VS. how much soap&time is needed to remove it all.

If this is a big concern for you then my recommendation would be to buy new clothes before you go somewhere dogs will sniff you (airport, etc..) and everything you carry on your person be new, never entered your house or anywhere it can come in contact with smoke or something that has smoke on it.

Although drug dogs can't be SUPER sensitive since like 95% of all US currency is contaminated with cocaine... if they can't smell the small amount on the bills in your wallet then any small trace amount on your clothes will also probably not hit.

New clothes, be careful where you smoke :p
 

Bozo

Active member
I trust the dogs alot more than the handlers.I think it is too much power for 1 cop to have and i have a hard time beliving there isnt rampant abuse of this special blind search tatic
 

etrusco

New member
Well, I don't think that dogs are trained to be so sensitive, because there would be too many "false alarms".

I remember once I and 3 friends of mine were passing in front of a drug-searching dog, we all had been smoking some hours before but the dog ignored all of us except the one who actually had some grams of hash in his pocket...
 
In Albuquerque NM airport they run the dog through the crowds all the time. I saw him go off on people a few times and the handler lets the dog make a big rucuss and then keeps going, all the while the victim is cleaning his shorts. I look for them and head the other way. so far so good. they also have a major profiling operation there as I have been followed around on several occassions... however the amateurs couldn't keep their cool and looked so obvious. the fools....
When I was a wild and crazy kd I worked for an importer in Cali and I always had to take the merchandise through the drug check point, but one day I forgot an 8 ball in my pocket and went to clear customs. Saw a dog coming and instincly felt me pockets and bam I had a lump and an instant memory... 'oh shit, I'm done' I thought, but the poochie walked right past me by about 1 foot.... go figure
 

etrusco

New member
badboyg said:
^^^^ opps... so did they stop you or what??

They stopped my friend. We didn't abandon him, and told the cops we were with him.

Luckily there were only 2-3 grams of hash and they let us go away without any problems. They sometimes do, at least here in Italy. Or at least they did, since laws here have become harsher lately...
 

Pythagllio

Patient Grower
Veteran
^^^In most of the US, you would have just been volunteering to join him in jail. While the sentiment is nice were I the guy carrying the hash I'd much rather have you show your support by posting my bail than sitting in a cell together.
 

etrusco

New member
Pythagllio said:
^^^In most of the US, you would have just been volunteering to join him in jail. While the sentiment is nice were I the guy carrying the hash I'd much rather have you show your support by posting my bail than sitting in a cell together.

Of course you're right: normally that would be pretty a silly move...
 

Verite

My little pony.. my little pony
Veteran
Four pages and still no one has bothered to mention probable cause??

Without probable cause the dog and officer dont have any legal right to come onto your property to sniff around in the first place. Its also illegal for them and the dog to go around sniffing private property without either a warrant or probable cause.

Even if the dog is passing your house in the alley or the front sidewalk and starts to bark/signal its still violating your privacy rights to unreasonable search the same way they arent allowed to randomly heat scan your house. Not without probable cause.
 
G

Guest

Can dogs smell cannabis in foods? For example, if I used only kief/hash and made a bunch of cookies, could the dog detect the hash in the cookies?

Thanks!
 

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