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Lyfespan

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9 in the pool, def could have done 6 and been ok... slightly longer veg time.

as for the 16 inches deep soil, def i think if you don't veg too long that does sound ideal, but for TREES with long veg time in the pool, def gonna be able to reach deeper imo.
would love to put my beds on casters.... they are 36 inche squares, except for one is 46" x 35".

The long veggers are the same way, take a good look next time you have to take a girl down and out, and try and see if you can't work from bottom up, and youll find the best roots are from 6-12 inches. The pool allows for wide reaching shallow root systems. My point here is while tall and narrow may save space it's not advantageous for MJ root growth.
 

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The long veggers are the same way, take a good look next time you have to take a girl down and out, and try and see if you can't work from bottom up, and youll find the best roots are from 6-12 inches. The pool allows for wide reaching shallow root systems. My point here is while tall and narrow may save space it's not advantageous for MJ root growth.

yhea, given AMPLE lateral growth space roots def do prefer the top layers of soil... i get what u r saying for sure, agree 100%.
 

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also, been brewing more fermented plant extracts, from kick-down groceries:
one is beets, radishes, strawberries, pineapple, cucumber, carrot with Lacto-bacillus serum & sugar
one is all cannabis fan leaves with lacto bacillus serum and sugar
one is avocado, kale, brocolli, cucumber, radishes, turnips, eggplants, parsnips, chard with lacto bacillus serum and sugar.
all have growth tips of willow and many outdoor flowering plants and quick growing weeds/herbs; including dafodils, iris, willow, dandelion, mint, and other plants i can't identify off the top of my head.

my big (40 lb) batch of bokashi smells all sourdough/sweet old beer/ kombucha after 2 weeks, will let it sit about 2 more weeks, maybe one more, then dry it and start using.
 

Lyfespan

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also, been brewing more fermented plant extracts, from kick-down groceries:
one is beets, radishes, strawberries, pineapple, cucumber, carrot with Lacto-bacillus serum & sugar
one is all cannabis fan leaves with lacto bacillus serum and sugar
one is avocado, kale, brocolli, cucumber, radishes, turnips, eggplants, parsnips, chard with lacto bacillus serum and sugar.
all have growth tips of willow and many outdoor flowering plants and quick growing weeds/herbs; including dafodils, iris, willow, dandelion, mint, and other plants i can't identify off the top of my head.

my big (40 lb) batch of bokashi smells all sourdough/sweet old beer/ kombucha after 2 weeks, will let it sit about 2 more weeks, maybe one more, then dry it and start using.
scobbys and em1 brew will be my research up next, I'm getting tired of mixing, and now with the GH news well, looks like I'm going to go power soil organic
 

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Hey Lyfespan, thanks for making that GH remark, I had no idea.

Do you think that ownership will change the product? Whats your jist against the buy? I don't see how scotts is going to change the forumla and ruin the product, or do you not want to support Scotts?

Just trying to learn here. Thanks!

Nice thread Avi, glad your back in full swing from that hiccup a while back. Sorry to barge in like this.
 

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imo the gh sellout is indicative of a greater shift... cannabis becoming mainstream, legit... big money interests are buying in because they can see the writing on the wall.... soon this will all be above board, what once was hands off black market business for the big guys will soon be and open playing field. my2 cents.

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^^ cloner popped roots, emptied out the clons, (got close to 95% success). refilled it with many clones, 2-5 cuts per node...

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also i'm already getting roots thru the bottoms of my smart beds.... seems like they are already going deeper than 16 inches, even when there is ample lateral growth space.

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room is vegging up, dripline is in and being fine tuned daily....
been feeding sprouted seed teas of alfalfa, barley, and wheat. also been foliar feeding aloe vera & kelp.
finished my first batch of bokashi, spread it around on top of all the soil in veg and flowering.

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glue getting the cure in a 5 gal bucket. ^^
 
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Jhhnn

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Dunno about clones, Miles, but plants grown from seed have very deep tap roots outdoors- as deep as they can send 'em. Makes 'em very drought tolerant.
 

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Dunno about clones, Miles, but plants grown from seed have very deep tap roots outdoors- as deep as they can send 'em. Makes 'em very drought tolerant.

there is no plant from seed in that bed... only clones... but ya, taproots do work for sure.
 

Lyfespan

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The comment about depth was for me, lol. That's killer to see AM and not just lil ones either look like good sized ones too, I'm going to have to transplant even sooner and see what happens.
 

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sprayed neem, iso, organocide, kelp, aloe the other day, 3way (essential oil mix) today to get rid of that fish smell... covered it up nicely with the lemongrass smell of the 3way....
pretty sure the room is clean of pests, altho i did just bring in a few new plants (silver grapefruit MCD is clean, but the medium sized bubba kush i brought in is all infested with mites badly). The bubba is THE grapey berry kushy bubba... somehow this lady made her way back into my life, so i figured i'll give her a few more runs, hopefully drop some pollen on her and get a batch of seed crosses from her.

Still fine tuning the drip line, trying to have it feed for about 1 minute anywhere from 4-8 times a day.... trick is getting it to only feed a lil bit in that single minute so nothing (or very little) comes thru the bed and onto the floor. I considered using adjustable emitters, but dont want any point of possible clog in the lines. Insead i've used smaller pumps and shared lines to limit how much comes thru the lines in the one minute feed.
I could just go out and buy and ART-DNe timer, but the cheapo in me wants to dig thru ALL the gear i have and find ALL the pumps and fittings and shit for driplines, re-assemble, observe results.... tinker, test, repeat.

Also added another intake and another exhaust in flowering and a better exhaust in veg, prepping for warmer temps coming soon as spring creeps around the corner.
 

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That is a bucket 'O' glue lol, nice nugs in there Avi. Cloner is on fire.

thanks A_s, gotta love the glue....
and I've always had a special place in my heart for those aerocloners... can't imagine why i ever STOPPED using one, just love the results. was getting horrible rates on my rockwool lately, so this is like a dream come true, and just in time for spring....
 

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opposite for me... 99.99% success with the rapid rooters... much, much worse in a bubble or aero cloner...
never tried rockwool, but I certainly still have some that refuses to decompose floatin in that soil for me to pick out at till time...
 

Miraculous Meds

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opposite for me... 99.99% success with the rapid rooters... much, much worse in a bubble or aero cloner...
never tried rockwool, but I certainly still have some that refuses to decompose floatin in that soil for me to pick out at till time...

Same here with the rr. I don't even think about cloning probs anymore. Only time I will have a prob is if for some reason the temps get too hot/cold. Otherwise its pretty close to 100%, all the time. Slime got in all my hydro stuff way back and I gave up on growing roots in water, till I did the flooded tube vert. That worked out pretty well. I think the quick recirculation of water made the difference for me with healthy water roots.

Rockwool works just fine. I just don't like the insulation like itchiness. Plus those fine particles aren't good for ur lungs.
 

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seems like when i have a foolproof cloning method (rockwool, aero cloner, or soil) then the season changes, my environment goes kinda wonky, results plummet and I'm forced to tweak, tinker, or in this case switch it up entirely.... glad I did it.

hanging 2 more 600w hps in flowering, one over a large cookies plant in a 40 gal tote, another over a group of smaller plants in various containers; 3 cookies, 2 canna tsu, and one unlabeled plant that is probably a bluberry lemon larry or a lime cookies bubba, time will tell.


did a bunch of staking with extra tall stakes, getting ready for that stretch that ushers in flowering, gave each potential top a stake, cleaning up the under-growth still, also.
been spraying regularly with neem & aloe & kelp, just to be sure... ladies seem to like it, also trying to clean up that new bubba in the room that came in super-infested.

finished my first batch of bokashi, top-coated all plants with it (on top of soil, beneath hay mulch), after 24 hours there is already a white fuzzy film of growth on the surface of the soil.
 
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