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Day 7 Flower
Day 7 Flower
Heres the first update on this round. 7 days in and all is looking great so far.
Tangerine -
^ She's 35cm(13 1/2"). I was going for a straight up grow...but the week under the MH musta encouraged all kinds of growth. I'm proud of her though...she's going to make one helluva nice plant.
Hempstar -
^^ She's 28cm(11"). Growing outwards instead of upwards seems to be her thing. Gonna be a giant bush.
pontiac - Hempstar is even more potent than she is beautiful. A pleasure to grow. I can't wait myself to see how she turns out.
The first week always seems the longest. Should have some nice mini flowers on next weeks pic update.
Day 7 Flower
Heres the first update on this round. 7 days in and all is looking great so far.
Tangerine -
^ She's 35cm(13 1/2"). I was going for a straight up grow...but the week under the MH musta encouraged all kinds of growth. I'm proud of her though...she's going to make one helluva nice plant.
Hempstar -
^^ She's 28cm(11"). Growing outwards instead of upwards seems to be her thing. Gonna be a giant bush.
pontiac - Hempstar is even more potent than she is beautiful. A pleasure to grow. I can't wait myself to see how she turns out.
The first week always seems the longest. Should have some nice mini flowers on next weeks pic update.
Two nice looking bushy bushes..that hempstar is setting up to be a giver..and the tange is well on her way..should be some good ones..
Thanks PN2P....This will be a good round.
Not much to update on here. You know how the first couple weeks of flowering can be pretty laid back. I'm not training this time around and I'm not spending too much time with the plants. They are pretty much growing on their own with minimal interaction from me.
Tangerine is fast outgrowing Hempstar in the height department, so I've given a few taller tips a lil soft pinch to slow them down slightly.
Maturity is amazing for the flowering time so far. I was comparing to my last Hempstar grow pics and on day 11 this time she looks more mature than day 20 last time. Maybe I can squeeze a week off the finishing time.
Tangerine clone didn't make it
I gave up on her yesterday. Hempstar clone looks like she'll make it ok. At least 1 outta 2 ain't bad. Guess I'll hafta pop a few Tangerine beans soon.
I'm really enjoying my first round of clone/re-veg plants though. Seems clones grow so much more vigourously. Tangerine-B would have been a nice keeper for sure...but I know there is a stronger Orange pheno in there too.
There is something wrong with my Grape!
I checked the veg cab yesterday to find Grape's leaves wilting, curling, and drying out. I've only fed it very slight nutes so far, and given her a Terracycle feeding, and there are worm castings in it's mix. Should have enough food for it's age. Only thing I could figure is that I possibly overwatered. So I transplanted it into the 1G bucket of dried soil. It didn't seem sopping wet or rootbound in transplant. I've yet to get to check on it since. Maybe I'll try and snap some pics after work. Anyone else experience anything similar?
Not much to update on here. You know how the first couple weeks of flowering can be pretty laid back. I'm not training this time around and I'm not spending too much time with the plants. They are pretty much growing on their own with minimal interaction from me.
Tangerine is fast outgrowing Hempstar in the height department, so I've given a few taller tips a lil soft pinch to slow them down slightly.
Maturity is amazing for the flowering time so far. I was comparing to my last Hempstar grow pics and on day 11 this time she looks more mature than day 20 last time. Maybe I can squeeze a week off the finishing time.
Tangerine clone didn't make it
I gave up on her yesterday. Hempstar clone looks like she'll make it ok. At least 1 outta 2 ain't bad. Guess I'll hafta pop a few Tangerine beans soon. I'm really enjoying my first round of clone/re-veg plants though. Seems clones grow so much more vigourously. Tangerine-B would have been a nice keeper for sure...but I know there is a stronger Orange pheno in there too.
There is something wrong with my Grape!
I checked the veg cab yesterday to find Grape's leaves wilting, curling, and drying out. I've only fed it very slight nutes so far, and given her a Terracycle feeding, and there are worm castings in it's mix. Should have enough food for it's age. Only thing I could figure is that I possibly overwatered. So I transplanted it into the 1G bucket of dried soil. It didn't seem sopping wet or rootbound in transplant. I've yet to get to check on it since. Maybe I'll try and snap some pics after work. Anyone else experience anything similar?
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sup TML? is it possible that the grape comes from grape krush? if it's dj short's then there's probably some blueberry in it. they have some leaf deformities. just thought i'd bring it up.....peace
Hiya TML
I see you are taking a more minimalist approach this time - good choice. For me I've noticed that the less I fuss with them, the better they do, keep it simple also saves time, big bonus with a family around.
Since the Tangerine is growing so quick in flower, why not take some of the lower stuff for another batch of cuttings - you could probably easily do 6 or more I'm sure. Takes a bit to get them back to veg but it works for many strains when you're stuck for clones. That's how I got my current am99 clones... And the upper branches get fatter, more than making up for the clones taken...
Definitely IME clones grow quicker than plant from seed. My understanding is the clone is more mature than the seed plant of the same size and ready to rock and roll. I noticed this with Bog's strains - his published flowering time is from clone - from seed my lifesaver needed 3 weeks longer
Sorry about your grape. For a general all around plant problem recovery, I gently bare root the plant in a bucket of room temp water using only my fingers. I mix 3 parts river sand to 1 part seedling soil and replant in a smallish pot, place under weak light. This is a very open mix, and helps the plant recover quickly. Then I water by weight - with the sand if it's moist there's no mistaking the heft. Doesn't need much nutrition if the lights are low. Should noticeably recover before needing to be fed, only then do I feed 1/4 str fert every 2nd watering until she complains it's not enough food. At this point the plant is fully recovered and can be replanted into a big pot in stronger hotter soil.
You've done more or less the same approach, so let's see how she goes. I'd water by weight or moisture meter only - keep her on the drier side of things....
Gotta love that hempstar. GarlicCityGro turned me on to some he grew - it was a real kickass strain - very medicinal.
And 
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I see you are taking a more minimalist approach this time - good choice. For me I've noticed that the less I fuss with them, the better they do, keep it simple also saves time, big bonus with a family around.
Since the Tangerine is growing so quick in flower, why not take some of the lower stuff for another batch of cuttings - you could probably easily do 6 or more I'm sure. Takes a bit to get them back to veg but it works for many strains when you're stuck for clones. That's how I got my current am99 clones... And the upper branches get fatter, more than making up for the clones taken...
Definitely IME clones grow quicker than plant from seed. My understanding is the clone is more mature than the seed plant of the same size and ready to rock and roll. I noticed this with Bog's strains - his published flowering time is from clone - from seed my lifesaver needed 3 weeks longer
Sorry about your grape. For a general all around plant problem recovery, I gently bare root the plant in a bucket of room temp water using only my fingers. I mix 3 parts river sand to 1 part seedling soil and replant in a smallish pot, place under weak light. This is a very open mix, and helps the plant recover quickly. Then I water by weight - with the sand if it's moist there's no mistaking the heft. Doesn't need much nutrition if the lights are low. Should noticeably recover before needing to be fed, only then do I feed 1/4 str fert every 2nd watering until she complains it's not enough food. At this point the plant is fully recovered and can be replanted into a big pot in stronger hotter soil.
You've done more or less the same approach, so let's see how she goes. I'd water by weight or moisture meter only - keep her on the drier side of things....
Gotta love that hempstar. GarlicCityGro turned me on to some he grew - it was a real kickass strain - very medicinal.
And !
Day 14 Flower
Day 14 Flower
User Name - Not exactly sure the genetic line of the grape. I've only bought it commercially and it's too far down the line to even find anyone who knows the growers. I would really love to find out cause it's fantastic weed. Very solid, light coloured buds with a very pungent Grape flavour and scent. The buzz is rather mild, but seems to stick around for awhile...it's the perfect weed for getting things done on and very pleasant to smoke. I'm pretty sure this is a health problem with the plant. Thanks for looking out, your input is appreciated...those are the types of things that can help when someone has grown the same or a similar strain.
Mr GreenJeans - Things are real busy for me in the summer months, a minimalist approach is all I can afford in time right now.
I was thinking the same thing as you 2 days ago. I cut only 1 lower branch off Tangerine and stuck it in a shot glass full of water covered in plastic wrap. I seem to have better luck cloning this way. The clone is still looking perfect, I didn't get it too close to the light this time. Maybe I should take your advice and take a few more "just in case" cuts because of my newbness to cloning.
The Grape seems to be recovering. The problem seemed to start occuring soon after I moved it from under the MH to the weak CFL's in the veg box. Maybe it was some sort of stress. It seemed to stunt growth for a few days, then the leaves got dried, crispy, and curly, and now are even yellowing. The new growth seems to be better although nodes are a little more spaced than they were growing under the MH. It was thriving so well under the MH, what a difference good lighting makes in proper growth.
Thanks for the tips MGJ...when I did re-pot it I left the soil nice and dry. No nutes have gone back in yet...besides the Terracycle EWC tea. So it's nice to see I'm at least on the right track.
I'm pretty silly for not getting a pic of her while I had the camera out to take the update photo shoot, but I'm stoned now...so I'll get some tonight
I tried something a little different today. I dragged Hempstar out of the closet to see if I could get better pics. I use flourescent lighting though...so let me know which pics you like better.
Hempstar:
^ Filling in nice and fast. 35cm(13 1/2") tall. Hard to get my 250W to penetrate that thick bush, though the canopy will be nice...it looks like I might hafta harvest in levels possibly to get some extra light down low.
Tangerine:
^^I can't believe the canopy is keeping up to height with the cola. Looks like I'll have a multi-cola Tange here. Hopefully some of the others ones can be just as thick as the main cola. She's 44cm(17") which is only 8cm(3") shorter than her mom finished last time, and she had 1 nice cola. Increasing yield was the idea here.
I plan on getting some pics of the grape up here so you guys can take a look. I appreciate all the help that's been added even without seeing a pic. :friends: Cheers to my good friends here at IC.
^^^I'm excited about this time around and it's going great. I couldn't be happier with my plants. I have Hempstar raised a bit to keep an even canopy with Tangerine and they sit about 17cm(6 1/2") from the light (you can get away with that with a 250W and a fan blowing across).
If you notice by the leaves both plants seem to have the perfect 50/50 indica/sativa crosses. Hempstar being the medicinal value buzz and Tangerine being a nice mellow treat. Tangerine will be left for more amber trichs this time, and Hempstar was perfect last time..I'll pull her in the same place. Can't wait to get there.
Thanks to all for stopping in
Day 14 Flower
User Name - Not exactly sure the genetic line of the grape. I've only bought it commercially and it's too far down the line to even find anyone who knows the growers. I would really love to find out cause it's fantastic weed. Very solid, light coloured buds with a very pungent Grape flavour and scent. The buzz is rather mild, but seems to stick around for awhile...it's the perfect weed for getting things done on and very pleasant to smoke. I'm pretty sure this is a health problem with the plant. Thanks for looking out, your input is appreciated...those are the types of things that can help when someone has grown the same or a similar strain.
Mr GreenJeans - Things are real busy for me in the summer months, a minimalist approach is all I can afford in time right now.
I was thinking the same thing as you 2 days ago. I cut only 1 lower branch off Tangerine and stuck it in a shot glass full of water covered in plastic wrap. I seem to have better luck cloning this way. The clone is still looking perfect, I didn't get it too close to the light this time. Maybe I should take your advice and take a few more "just in case" cuts because of my newbness to cloning.
The Grape seems to be recovering. The problem seemed to start occuring soon after I moved it from under the MH to the weak CFL's in the veg box. Maybe it was some sort of stress. It seemed to stunt growth for a few days, then the leaves got dried, crispy, and curly, and now are even yellowing. The new growth seems to be better although nodes are a little more spaced than they were growing under the MH. It was thriving so well under the MH, what a difference good lighting makes in proper growth.
Thanks for the tips MGJ...when I did re-pot it I left the soil nice and dry. No nutes have gone back in yet...besides the Terracycle EWC tea. So it's nice to see I'm at least on the right track.
I'm pretty silly for not getting a pic of her while I had the camera out to take the update photo shoot, but I'm stoned now...so I'll get some tonight
I tried something a little different today. I dragged Hempstar out of the closet to see if I could get better pics. I use flourescent lighting though...so let me know which pics you like better.
Hempstar:
^ Filling in nice and fast. 35cm(13 1/2") tall. Hard to get my 250W to penetrate that thick bush, though the canopy will be nice...it looks like I might hafta harvest in levels possibly to get some extra light down low.
Tangerine:
^^I can't believe the canopy is keeping up to height with the cola. Looks like I'll have a multi-cola Tange here. Hopefully some of the others ones can be just as thick as the main cola. She's 44cm(17") which is only 8cm(3") shorter than her mom finished last time, and she had 1 nice cola. Increasing yield was the idea here.
I plan on getting some pics of the grape up here so you guys can take a look. I appreciate all the help that's been added even without seeing a pic. :friends: Cheers to my good friends here at IC.
^^^I'm excited about this time around and it's going great. I couldn't be happier with my plants. I have Hempstar raised a bit to keep an even canopy with Tangerine and they sit about 17cm(6 1/2") from the light (you can get away with that with a 250W and a fan blowing across).
If you notice by the leaves both plants seem to have the perfect 50/50 indica/sativa crosses. Hempstar being the medicinal value buzz and Tangerine being a nice mellow treat. Tangerine will be left for more amber trichs this time, and Hempstar was perfect last time..I'll pull her in the same place. Can't wait to get there.
Thanks to all for stopping in
Dammit man DG didn't select your pic for the poll..I think it would have done well..I was gonna back ya..
I like water clones..they just take a bit longer..but are very effective..even on thick stem clones..change the water every few days just to keep the slime off..
water quality or pH are not of concern..weak light is the only care they need..no leaf trimming..no domes..just weak light..
The nice thing about clones..you can flower right off the bat and grow buds on a stick if you want..E&F table would be nice for that..
I saw some nice BOAS using 2L soda containers..and potting soil too..
I wanna grow a single kola mother and take all her branches as clones, but the main kola..then flower the main too..just for fun..sorta a spear-stick if you will..
I might do it with one of the BD's if I get 3 girls..might do it either way..BD would be fun as hell to do it with..
I like water clones..they just take a bit longer..but are very effective..even on thick stem clones..change the water every few days just to keep the slime off..
water quality or pH are not of concern..weak light is the only care they need..no leaf trimming..no domes..just weak light..
The nice thing about clones..you can flower right off the bat and grow buds on a stick if you want..E&F table would be nice for that..
I saw some nice BOAS using 2L soda containers..and potting soil too..
I wanna grow a single kola mother and take all her branches as clones, but the main kola..then flower the main too..just for fun..sorta a spear-stick if you will..
I might do it with one of the BD's if I get 3 girls..might do it either way..BD would be fun as hell to do it with..
pontiac - Thanks for stoppin in bro Your compliments are always appreciated. Hope you are enjoying your AK, your harvest was a mighty one for a first time around, you should be very proud. You've given me a harvest amount to aim for with only 2 plants.
packn2puff - Thanks for having my back
There were some mighty pretty pics up there though. I've never really considered myself any sort of photographer and I have a shitty old camera, I'm sure there are other guys who actually spent time working at their photography and have money invested that deserve to win it much more. I've already personally voted for sirharrynugs and his Blueberry shot: http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/4012DSC00779.JPG
I couldn't contend with that, especially under HPS lighting. I just feel honoured to even have been nominated.
I see you're nominated yourself this month. Your photography is always so crisp and amazing, I'm surprised it's not a monthly thing for you.
Last time I cloned I stuck them in water for about 10 days, when only 1 had roots I got frustrated and stuck them all in dirt...they all lived. I like the water method...seems to keep the leaves greener and less wilty looking, which means the less worrying I do. I'm not really concerned with time, I probably have 6 weeks left of flowering on these, I just hope this one roots, I'm finding a liking to growing from clone.
I've seen a few of those 1 branch single cola grows back on OG. Sometimes that's all you need to pull an amazing harvest.
Thanks again for yet more tips and knowledge p2np, I promise you your time doesn't go to waste.
Your compliments are always appreciated. Hope you are enjoying your AK, your harvest was a mighty one for a first time around, you should be very proud. You've given me a harvest amount to aim for with only 2 plants.packn2puff - Thanks for having my back
There were some mighty pretty pics up there though. I've never really considered myself any sort of photographer and I have a shitty old camera, I'm sure there are other guys who actually spent time working at their photography and have money invested that deserve to win it much more. I've already personally voted for sirharrynugs and his Blueberry shot: http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/4012DSC00779.JPGI couldn't contend with that, especially under HPS lighting. I just feel honoured to even have been nominated.
I see you're nominated yourself this month. Your photography is always so crisp and amazing, I'm surprised it's not a monthly thing for you.
Last time I cloned I stuck them in water for about 10 days, when only 1 had roots I got frustrated and stuck them all in dirt...they all lived. I like the water method...seems to keep the leaves greener and less wilty looking, which means the less worrying I do. I'm not really concerned with time, I probably have 6 weeks left of flowering on these, I just hope this one roots, I'm finding a liking to growing from clone.
I've seen a few of those 1 branch single cola grows back on OG. Sometimes that's all you need to pull an amazing harvest.
Thanks again for yet more tips and knowledge p2np, I promise you your time doesn't go to waste.
Official Tangerine Smoke Report
Official Tangerine Smoke Report
Official Tangerine Smoke Report
I feel it's about a safe time to do a fair assessment on Willy Jack's Tangerine.
I'm going to approach this report using Tangerine-A and -B seperate and then overall to be fair to the difference in traits from the indica dominate to the sativa dominate plant.
Strain - Willy Jacks Tangerine (Chronic X Cali-O)
To get into specifics Chronic = Skunk/NL/AK-47 and Cali-O = Afghani/Acapulco Gold.
Willy Jack is a seed company out of the Toronto area. There website has been down for quite sometime (shortly after HS scandal )
Willy Jack credits: Willy Jack uses a very strict process of parent selection when breeding these exceptional strains. 50 seeds of each of the strains were purchased from seed companies in Amsterdam. Only the strongest and most vigorous specimens were used to produce seed stock. All Willy Jack strains are regularly tested; germination rates are close to 100%
So far I've popped 2 of their beans and ended up with these fabulous 2 ladies.
Odour - Minimal during the grow which I found odd being of partial skunk.
A - Not a very familiar scent. It has citrusy tones but I'm not quite sure I'm smelling orange. It's slighty sweet and creamish and the smell seems to dissipate quickly. It has it's originalties, I'll give it that.
B - This was actually the more Orange like smelling after a cure. It is citrus/sweet/skunk like.
Tangerine - Both have good similarities besides that creamy oddness from A. I think the denseness of B holds a slightly stronger aroma, yet I'm strangely intrigued by the creaminess of A. Both plants are smokable indoors if you close a door/open a window, the smell isn't like that of Hempstar that will stink up your house for days just by lighting a joint.
Taste -
A - The cream continues to be the story with the sativa dominant A. Orange Creamsicle best describes the flavour. The smoke seems very thick and dense, almost creamy white as it rolls off a joint. Tangerine-A tastes very very good.
B - B is a little less exciting in the taste area. It's pretty common tasting and loses alot of the citrus taste/odour during the burning process.
Tangerine - Both plants are enjoyable to smoke taste wise. I find mixing the 2 also creates a nice medium in taste. I do prefer the taste of A but B does have it's advantages.
Buzz -
A - Very good head high. Takes you up very fast...starts from behind the eyes. Can make you giddy, laughy, and playfull. Good For: social events you don't want people to know you are high at and wake and bakes. Never crashes you, it kinda just fades away....
B - Comes in fast also though tends to treat head and body alike. Stays with you for a good while, never burns you out. Good For: Wake and Bakes, Days where you have stuff to do later that night that you may want to be sober for.
Tangerine - A good all around bud. It's something that you'd never be dissapointed in, yet you would never be awed by. I found mixing the 2 was where I found my favourite buzz. I will be definately be letting it mature a bit more this time around, both could use a little more body stone. Overall I would say the best purpose for bud like this is Wake and Bakes. It never tires you out and lets you down very easy. It is a good all purpose bud.
Hope you enjoyed my report, and hopefully it does Willy Jack and their efforts justice.
Official Tangerine Smoke Report
Official Tangerine Smoke Report
I feel it's about a safe time to do a fair assessment on Willy Jack's Tangerine.
I'm going to approach this report using Tangerine-A and -B seperate and then overall to be fair to the difference in traits from the indica dominate to the sativa dominate plant.
Strain - Willy Jacks Tangerine (Chronic X Cali-O)
To get into specifics Chronic = Skunk/NL/AK-47 and Cali-O = Afghani/Acapulco Gold.
Willy Jack is a seed company out of the Toronto area. There website has been down for quite sometime (shortly after HS scandal
) Willy Jack credits: Willy Jack uses a very strict process of parent selection when breeding these exceptional strains. 50 seeds of each of the strains were purchased from seed companies in Amsterdam. Only the strongest and most vigorous specimens were used to produce seed stock. All Willy Jack strains are regularly tested; germination rates are close to 100%
So far I've popped 2 of their beans and ended up with these fabulous 2 ladies.
Odour - Minimal during the grow which I found odd being of partial skunk.
A - Not a very familiar scent. It has citrusy tones but I'm not quite sure I'm smelling orange. It's slighty sweet and creamish and the smell seems to dissipate quickly. It has it's originalties, I'll give it that.
B - This was actually the more Orange like smelling after a cure. It is citrus/sweet/skunk like.
Tangerine - Both have good similarities besides that creamy oddness from A. I think the denseness of B holds a slightly stronger aroma, yet I'm strangely intrigued by the creaminess of A. Both plants are smokable indoors if you close a door/open a window, the smell isn't like that of Hempstar that will stink up your house for days just by lighting a joint.
Taste -
A - The cream continues to be the story with the sativa dominant A. Orange Creamsicle best describes the flavour. The smoke seems very thick and dense, almost creamy white as it rolls off a joint. Tangerine-A tastes very very good.
B - B is a little less exciting in the taste area. It's pretty common tasting and loses alot of the citrus taste/odour during the burning process.
Tangerine - Both plants are enjoyable to smoke taste wise. I find mixing the 2 also creates a nice medium in taste. I do prefer the taste of A but B does have it's advantages.
Buzz -
A - Very good head high. Takes you up very fast...starts from behind the eyes. Can make you giddy, laughy, and playfull. Good For: social events you don't want people to know you are high at and wake and bakes. Never crashes you, it kinda just fades away....
B - Comes in fast also though tends to treat head and body alike. Stays with you for a good while, never burns you out. Good For: Wake and Bakes, Days where you have stuff to do later that night that you may want to be sober for.
Tangerine - A good all around bud. It's something that you'd never be dissapointed in, yet you would never be awed by. I found mixing the 2 was where I found my favourite buzz. I will be definately be letting it mature a bit more this time around, both could use a little more body stone. Overall I would say the best purpose for bud like this is Wake and Bakes. It never tires you out and lets you down very easy. It is a good all purpose bud.
Hope you enjoyed my report, and hopefully it does Willy Jack and their efforts justice.
- very fine report TML! Makes me want to go out and get some! Now look I'm the one who's droolin ROTF... You did a bang up job mate!Howz hempy doin?
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well done, sounds like something i'll be keeping an eye out for
Back in the day..we called um 50/50 bars..orange creamsicles..it was my fav at the ol ice cream truck..
So that smoke report is gonna require a drool bucket over here as well..
So that smoke report is gonna require a drool bucket over here as well..
Mr GreenJeans - Thanks. This was the first smoke report I did in this fashion. I did a half assed one back on OG with P#1.
Tangerine's not something that I would recommend as a medicine, but definately a good leisure smoke. You have probably had lots of similar smoking experiences with your Cali-O.
Hempstar is doing awesome and she thanks you for asking. She's growing nice bulbous bazooka style buds and at day 20 I am enthralled at the early productivity. I am going to be one happy camper in just 6 short weeks.
User Name - Thanks for hangin out with us. Willy Jack has some amazing crosses available and I had a very hard time deciding on my what was my first Willy Jack strain. Their genetics stand up to the test and I'd be more than happy to grow any of their stuff. I'm sure Chronic and/or Cali-O are wonderfull strains, but Willy Jack came up with a winning cross here for good yielding, good smoke buds.
packn2puff - 50/50 bars eh. I must be too young to remember that. The creamy taste is odd in smoke form, not exactly something i was expecting. I somewhat regret only keeping the B clone now, though the yield is much better.
Tangerine-A is quite the treat to smoke for the taste enjoyment, going to be something I miss when it's gone. Might hafta search the bean pack for another pheno with that taste.
I had taken some pics of Grape a few days back, but it's made a 100% turnaround the last 2 days. New growth is looking great and everything is back on track. Nodes are a little more spaced under the CFL's, but that's ok.
Waiting for it to naturally show sex...but I'm getting impatient. I want to stagger it in next week or so.
Day 21 update coming up tommorrow...stick around.
Tangerine's not something that I would recommend as a medicine, but definately a good leisure smoke. You have probably had lots of similar smoking experiences with your Cali-O.
Hempstar is doing awesome and she thanks you for asking. She's growing nice bulbous bazooka style buds and at day 20 I am enthralled at the early productivity. I am going to be one happy camper in just 6 short weeks.
User Name - Thanks for hangin out with us. Willy Jack has some amazing crosses available and I had a very hard time deciding on my what was my first Willy Jack strain. Their genetics stand up to the test and I'd be more than happy to grow any of their stuff. I'm sure Chronic and/or Cali-O are wonderfull strains, but Willy Jack came up with a winning cross here for good yielding, good smoke buds.
packn2puff - 50/50 bars eh. I must be too young to remember that. The creamy taste is odd in smoke form, not exactly something i was expecting. I somewhat regret only keeping the B clone now, though the yield is much better.
Tangerine-A is quite the treat to smoke for the taste enjoyment, going to be something I miss when it's gone. Might hafta search the bean pack for another pheno with that taste.
I had taken some pics of Grape a few days back, but it's made a 100% turnaround the last 2 days. New growth is looking great and everything is back on track. Nodes are a little more spaced under the CFL's, but that's ok.
Waiting for it to naturally show sex...but I'm getting impatient. I want to stagger it in next week or so.
Day 21 update coming up tommorrow...stick around.
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Guest
right on, where'd you find the beans, locally or did you order em?
Day 21 Flower
Day 21 Flower
User Name - I bought them locally in person, but they are available over the net. http://www.willyjack.com/ has been down for quite a little while, but they are still available through many vendors on the net. They have quite the variety...over 50 strains to choose from at least.
Here's the update
Hempstar -
^ That first sideview pic doesn't do her justice, I was in a hurry when taking pics and I got too low. If you see the bud shot though...she's already frosting at day 21!
Tangerine -
^^She's starting to steal the show. I'm finally gonna get the yield to start me off on my voyage to never paying for weed again. Bud shot looks like crap...lights went out and I attempted some lights out photography...it just didn't work
Grape - Still Vegging
^^^ Here's those pics...you can see that wicked curl in the leaves. It seems to be doing alot better now...these pics were from 2 days ago, and she grew almost 3cm(1") since then. The transplant, letting it dry out, and slowly reintroducing it to the nutes worked wonders. Wish it'd show sex already.
I stopped using urine for veg nutes finally broke down and bought some 5-1-1 muskie ferts.
Hope you enjoyed the update...sorry for the pic quality, I was in a hurry this time around. I'm sure day 28 will be a treat.
Day 21 Flower
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I bought them locally in person, but they are available over the net. http://www.willyjack.com/ has been down for quite a little while, but they are still available through many vendors on the net. They have quite the variety...over 50 strains to choose from at least.Here's the update
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^ That first sideview pic doesn't do her justice, I was in a hurry when taking pics and I got too low. If you see the bud shot though...she's already frosting at day 21!
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^^She's starting to steal the show. I'm finally gonna get the yield to start me off on my voyage to never paying for weed again. Bud shot looks like crap...lights went out and I attempted some lights out photography...it just didn't work
Grape - Still Vegging
^^^ Here's those pics...you can see that wicked curl in the leaves. It seems to be doing alot better now...these pics were from 2 days ago, and she grew almost 3cm(1") since then. The transplant, letting it dry out, and slowly reintroducing it to the nutes worked wonders. Wish it'd show sex already.
I stopped using urine for veg nutes
finally broke down and bought some 5-1-1 muskie ferts. Hope you enjoyed the update...sorry for the pic quality, I was in a hurry this time around. I'm sure day 28 will be a treat.
They are definitely on their way to being big fatties...glad to hear you're cutting back on the urine..I know the he said/she said on all that..
My problem is with the control and refinement..not that it doesn't work..but it's kinda a crap shoot..many ferts are derived from urea..but it is controlled and refined..
Found this on GREEN EARTH® MUSKIE FISH EMULSION
The scrap from fresh water fish processing is converted into a creamy emulsion-like liquid. The method liquifies the protein of the tissues into organic nitrogen, releases the phosphate plant food from the fish bone and natural potash is released and becomes part of the liquid plant food.
The result is a low sodium, low salt index plant food that is essentially non burning and controlled release liquid fertilizer. GREEN EARTH® MUSKIE FISH EMULSION has been tested on a wide range of plants. It's slightly acidic organic complex seems to further release nutrients inherent in the soil while its slow release protein nitrogen encourages the soil bacteria and provides the fullest possible growth potential for all plants.
So it's a good slow-release..think about mixing it with an organic tea like Pure Blend, bio-grow, etc...it has some of the beneficial bacteria in it and faster more ready available nutes..the bacteria will thrive in, breakdown and process the fish emulsion nutes.. 
My problem is with the control and refinement..not that it doesn't work..but it's kinda a crap shoot..many ferts are derived from urea..but it is controlled and refined..
Found this on GREEN EARTH® MUSKIE FISH EMULSION
The scrap from fresh water fish processing is converted into a creamy emulsion-like liquid. The method liquifies the protein of the tissues into organic nitrogen, releases the phosphate plant food from the fish bone and natural potash is released and becomes part of the liquid plant food.
The result is a low sodium, low salt index plant food that is essentially non burning and controlled release liquid fertilizer. GREEN EARTH® MUSKIE FISH EMULSION has been tested on a wide range of plants. It's slightly acidic organic complex seems to further release nutrients inherent in the soil while its slow release protein nitrogen encourages the soil bacteria and provides the fullest possible growth potential for all plants.
So it's a good slow-release..think about mixing it with an organic tea like Pure Blend, bio-grow, etc...it has some of the beneficial bacteria in it and faster more ready available nutes..the bacteria will thrive in, breakdown and process the fish emulsion nutes..
eh there packn
You are right about the crap shoot. That was my conclusion to the minor problems I had with grape. Maybe I was having a bad health day that day.
I'm in very good shape and I eat very healthy and usually mostly organics. Like you said though there is no control or refinement.
I've been involved in many discussions on the pros and cons of urine as a fert and it seems to be that your argument is the only valid con to it's usage. I have now experienced why....or at least that's my conspiracy theory.
GREEN EARTH® MUSKIE FISH EMULSION was exactly what I bought. For $5 I figured I could leave my pride of making my cost as little as possible and call it an essential.
I have looked into Pure Blend and Bio-grow and the prices seem fair. Though you know how I am about spending $$ on my grow. It's not that I'm cheap....I just have this moral standard that weed should be virtually free because like us, it is one of natures creations. However...I have been using Terracycle - http://www.terracycle.net/products.htm
What do you think of that stuff in comparison? I got a deal where you buy 2 2L and you get a free 250ml bottle with sprayer. The houseplants seem to love it. I will consider Pure Blend or Bio-grow though. Now that I know what to look for.
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I found a link to the new soil mix I've been using. I bought a couple extra bags because they don't seem to carry it in winter. It seemed to be the final key to my growing needs, because this is definately going to be my best run yet and I'm really hoping I could actually hit a .5 gram per watt weight here.
Biomax Shrimp Compost:
http://premierhort.com/eProMix/Gard...diaTM/Biomax/ShrimpCompost/fShrimpCompost.htm
I'm gonna go spend some time with the ladies now 
I havn't seen them for over 24 hours.
You are right about the crap shoot. That was my conclusion to the minor problems I had with grape. Maybe I was having a bad health day that day.
I'm in very good shape and I eat very healthy and usually mostly organics. Like you said though there is no control or refinement.
I've been involved in many discussions on the pros and cons of urine as a fert and it seems to be that your argument is the only valid con to it's usage. I have now experienced why....or at least that's my conspiracy theory.
GREEN EARTH® MUSKIE FISH EMULSION was exactly what I bought. For $5 I figured I could leave my pride of making my cost as little as possible and call it an essential.
I have looked into Pure Blend and Bio-grow and the prices seem fair. Though you know how I am about spending $$ on my grow. It's not that I'm cheap....I just have this moral standard that weed should be virtually free because like us, it is one of natures creations. However...I have been using Terracycle - http://www.terracycle.net/products.htm
What do you think of that stuff in comparison? I got a deal where you buy 2 2L and you get a free 250ml bottle with sprayer. The houseplants seem to love it. I will consider Pure Blend or Bio-grow though. Now that I know what to look for.
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I found a link to the new soil mix I've been using. I bought a couple extra bags because they don't seem to carry it in winter. It seemed to be the final key to my growing needs, because this is definately going to be my best run yet and I'm really hoping I could actually hit a .5 gram per watt weight here.
Biomax Shrimp Compost:
http://premierhort.com/eProMix/Gard...diaTM/Biomax/ShrimpCompost/fShrimpCompost.htm
I'm gonna go spend some time with the ladies now
I havn't seen them for over 24 hours.
G
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that compost looks like some good shit
terracycle is overpriced IMO. i've got a friend who swears by the stuff. he didn't want to hear it when i told him he could make his own terracycle by bubbling with a teabag of EWC, for much cheaper.
terracycle is overpriced IMO. i've got a friend who swears by the stuff. he didn't want to hear it when i told him he could make his own terracycle by bubbling with a teabag of EWC, for much cheaper.
