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The 2020 Presidential Election

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Gypsy Nirvana

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I've got a sneaking feeling that we are going to see more planes fall out of the sky over the middle east - in the coming weeks/months - with all the missiles deployed over there - and the whole area so close to all-out war - its bound to happen -
 

mean mr.mustard

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Oh didn't you hear?

Our bumbling Commander in Chief, in his great and unmatched wisdom, has already diffused the war..... AGAIN.

If people can't see him for the sloppy shoddy hack he is I can't weep for them.

He's going to fuck up in a very regrettable way.

Millions of people who live and breathe in the US have been wary of the implementation of idiocy that is our current administration.

But I'll hand it to him.... he's an entertainer.
 

armedoldhippy

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I've got a sneaking feeling that we are going to see more planes fall out of the sky over the middle east - in the coming weeks/months - with all the missiles deployed over there - and the whole area so close to all-out war - its bound to happen -

i worked as a fuel sys. spec in the USAF years ago. watching the maintenance done on them, i'm surprised they don't fold their wings & fall out of the sky every damn day. it doesn't take a missile, just a bolt not tight enough/too tight. or even one tightened in the wrong order...
 

h.h.

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Being a Centrist, I don't care which party has dirty laundry. The players need to pay. Don't you feel the same? There will likely be Republicans in there too. You wont welcome that? Are you still playing sides? I thought you had progressed beyond that?


Im for draining the swamp, and I don't care which side they hail from.

Yet you faithfully repeat trumps words.
Whatever.
 

h.h.

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So, orange man bad, doesn't get the same rules. No precedent have been followed up onto this point, so I am not surprised. Thanks for exposing your hypocrisy. I almost get tired of saying that.
:laughing:

You do realize Pelosi had her chance, they wouldn't even try to get their witnesses. Pelosi has NO power, in the Senate. She's done, her speakership is done, again.

Have you heard about the investigation into the IC IG now we know he was deeply involved in the Russiagate hoax. Nothing to see here either.
Wanting truth is hypocritical?
 

Gypsy Nirvana

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Im for draining the swamp, and I don't care which side they hail from.

Yet you faithfully repeat trumps words.
Whatever.

'Draining the Swamp' - as a term goes way back before Trump was involved with the Presidency -

Drain the swamp is a phrase which since the 1980s has frequently been used by American politicians. The phrase alludes to the physical draining of swamps to keep mosquito populations low to combat malaria, and Washington D.C. being founded on a supposed swampy ground. It has been used as a metaphor by:

Helen Hunt Jackson (1830–1885) who wrote that to "clear the swamp" (the first obvious step to reclaiming "poisonous and swampy wilderness") was an apt metaphor for how to start addressing "the disgrace to us of the present condition of our Indians."

Winfield R. Gaylord (1870–1943) to describe the socialist desire to "drain" the "capitalist swamp".

Victor L. Berger (1860–1929), who in his book Broadsides referred to changing the capitalist system as "drain[ing] the swamp".

A. Philip Randolph (1889–1979) and Bayard Rustin (1912-1987) in A Freedom Budget for All Americans (1966), argued that "The breeding grounds of crime and discontent will be diminished in the same way that draining a swamp cuts down the breeding of mosquitoes, and the causes of discrimination will be considerably reduced."

Ronald Reagan, who called to "drain the swamp" of bureaucracy in the federal government in 1983 when commissioning The Grace Commission.

Jessica Stern in "Preparing for a War on Terrorism", where she calls on the U.S. to see failing and failed states as sources and sanctuaries for terrorists and terrorism (the swamp) and to use foreign aid and soft power to combat them (the draining).

Pat Buchanan during his 2000 presidential campaign, when he invoked the saying in opposition to the dominant political parties: "Neither Beltway party is going to drain this swamp: it's a protected wetland; they breed in it, they spawn in it".

Nancy Pelosi in 2006 while announcing her 100-Hour Plan in response to more than a decade of Republican rule.

Donald Trump to describe his plan to fix problems in the federal government. Subsequent protests against the role of Goldman Sachs alumni in his administration also used the metaphor.

Traditional Unionist Voice on the front cover of their manifesto for the 2017 Northern Ireland Assembly election

Henry Bolton, the leader of UKIP when referring to its National Executive Committee (NEC) on 22 January 2018.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drain_the_swamp
 

h.h.

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'Draining the Swamp' - as a term goes way back before Trump was involved with the Presidency -

Drain the swamp is a phrase which since the 1980s has frequently been used by American politicians. The phrase alludes to the physical draining of swamps to keep mosquito populations low to combat malaria, and Washington D.C. being founded on a supposed swampy ground. It has been used as a metaphor by:

Helen Hunt Jackson (1830–1885) who wrote that to "clear the swamp" (the first obvious step to reclaiming "poisonous and swampy wilderness") was an apt metaphor for how to start addressing "the disgrace to us of the present condition of our Indians."

Winfield R. Gaylord (1870–1943) to describe the socialist desire to "drain" the "capitalist swamp".

Victor L. Berger (1860–1929), who in his book Broadsides referred to changing the capitalist system as "drain[ing] the swamp".

A. Philip Randolph (1889–1979) and Bayard Rustin (1912-1987) in A Freedom Budget for All Americans (1966), argued that "The breeding grounds of crime and discontent will be diminished in the same way that draining a swamp cuts down the breeding of mosquitoes, and the causes of discrimination will be considerably reduced."

Ronald Reagan, who called to "drain the swamp" of bureaucracy in the federal government in 1983 when commissioning The Grace Commission.

Jessica Stern in "Preparing for a War on Terrorism", where she calls on the U.S. to see failing and failed states as sources and sanctuaries for terrorists and terrorism (the swamp) and to use foreign aid and soft power to combat them (the draining).

Pat Buchanan during his 2000 presidential campaign, when he invoked the saying in opposition to the dominant political parties: "Neither Beltway party is going to drain this swamp: it's a protected wetland; they breed in it, they spawn in it".

Nancy Pelosi in 2006 while announcing her 100-Hour Plan in response to more than a decade of Republican rule.

Donald Trump to describe his plan to fix problems in the federal government. Subsequent protests against the role of Goldman Sachs alumni in his administration also used the metaphor.

Traditional Unionist Voice on the front cover of their manifesto for the 2017 Northern Ireland Assembly election

Henry Bolton, the leader of UKIP when referring to its National Executive Committee (NEC) on 22 January 2018.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drain_the_swamp
And the battle cry of trumpeters today.
Stick to the subject.
 

h.h.

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That's weird. Whether I hit first page, page 1, click your link or go to page 2 and click the back a page arrow, page 1 just won't open for me. Can't imagine its worth worrying about missing, but a true mystery.

The quoted link sends me to a blank page. Black screen.
Using Firefox.
 

Gypsy Nirvana

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The subject is Trump and his bid for the 2020 election - his battle-cry 'Draining the Swamp' is not a new term - at all - and was used by many before -

And the battle cry of trumpeters today.
Stick to the subject.
 
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