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The 2020 Presidential Election

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armedoldhippy

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I'll give you just one example. I have lyme disease.

As part of a recent military spending budget was a requirement that the Department of Defense coordinate with the Department of Justice to review and report allegations that the DOD intentionally or accidentally released lyme upon the American public. The objective is to achieve justice and more importantly see if the investigation will lead to finding a cure.

Now, whether it was released by the DOD or not (and, more likely the CIA would be the guilty party), or whether my case is related to such an event or not. There is ample and blatent evidence that lyme has continued to be treated differently than most diseases in the US. Medical treatment and diagnosis standards are set by the National Institude of Health Standards. The NIHS has strict protocals which, for instance, call for regular updates of standards so that standards can be maintained as research advances. These standards are not updated for Lyme, in violation of the law. There is a tremendous amount of corruption behind the tests that are allowed for diagnosing lyme. There are two main tests. One works well and is not allowed or recognised. The other is the one that is approved but doesnt work very well.

Then you have a standard in which practices are supposed to be updated with info from the most expert researchers. This is not the case with lyme. So, you have establishment (authoritarian) non-experts deciding what proper treatment and diagnosis should be.

To be continued... Gotta pick up a calzone!

Lyme disease has been around for forever. it is getting more common because of the increased proximity that man & wildlife have due to rebounding populations of whitetail deer in certain areas of the country. Lyme, Connecticut (which gave the disease its name) is an incredibly wealthy area of the country full of "estates" modeled after British country life, chock full of wildlife. huge resulting deer population caused explosion of the disease. many homes there now have big flocks of guinea fowl which evolved eating...yup, ticks, in their native habitat in Africa. other hotbeds involve retirement communities (like Fairfield Glade here in TN) where geezers follow errant golf shots into the brush & come out crawling with ticks so small that they are nearly impossible to see. is there not a conspiracy theory that you don't swallow hook, line, and sinker? you are one sad puppy...:biggrin:
 

Hempy McNoodle

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you are not going to end a war by AGAIN attacking someone that YOU started the fight with nearly 70 years ago by ousting a leader there. would WE stop if some bright boy managed to kill shit for brains trump? do you really think that ? just how damn retarded are you anyway? there will be no peace nor a brighter future as long as we keep electing fired game show host imbeciles to public office.:laughing:



These are complex issues, but yeah. Exactly. How do you get out of a situation in the space of 1 or 2 terms that has been set up for 100+ years. look at what the CIA did to Iran. look at what the US and Europe did to China in the opium wars. If I remember it correctly, US and Europe got china to grow its opium. Opium became a scourge in China due to addiction. China closed itself off from foreign trade. So we launched the opium wars against china and forced them to grow our opium and forced them to have ports for international trade. Then we sold out to china in the 1990s and began indebting ourselves to china. Our corrupt leaders sold us out in many ways to china and now Trump comes in to stop it. That is a hell of a serious problem. For China and the US. No matter how you slice it.


Now for Iran, again our corrupt CIA toppled their wonderful society in the 1950 and put in severe religious extremists who set up militias all over the middle east and over the decades strategized with the global deepstate to have a war across many nations, benefitting the deepstate of each nation, but not the victim nations such as Iraq, Syria, or Yemen. Mostly, Israel, Iran, and Saudi Arabia, the EU, and US. So, in Iran we turned it into the extremist place it is. So, now we have a president who wants out. How best to do it? If we pull out, Iran will take over Iraq and the middle east will be a mess and it will fester and cause us a never ending national security threat. Trump and the military know that they have to take out the key leadership. What would armedoldhippy do? I think the situation is likely to be far more complex than you or I can truly appreciate. But Trump has one shot to get things right. Many, many things, so that none of this ever happens again.
 

armedoldhippy

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our "contractors" in the middle east? (and other places) are mercenaries. think "Blackwater"...yeah, THAT kind of "contractor".

just read that the contractor in question was employed as an interpreter. native born Iraqi, naturalized American citizen. does not specify actual employer, and probably won't.
 

Hempy McNoodle

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If Trump was just a blundering idiot like many of you think, then surly he would have been assassinated by now. The fact is that he and the military know exactly what they are up against and have taken extra precautions to make sure that they do not get stopped like JFK did. and that is why they chose someone with a clean criminal background like Donald Trump. Every attempt to "expose" him will only boomerang on the deepstate criminals.
 

Hempy McNoodle

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Thinking about it - the Russians are probably laughing all the way to the bank right now - with the price of oil going up - since oil is Russia's major export -

- so a war in the middle east will surely benefit Russia - plus all the weapons systems they can sell to that region - to keep it all going - just like the west is doing -



Good point, Gypsy
 

armedoldhippy

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These are complex issues, but yeah. Exactly. How do you get out of a situation in the space of 1 or 2 terms that has been set up for 100+ years. look at what the CIA did to Iran. look at what the US and Europe did to China in the opium wars. If I remember it correctly, US and Europe got china to grow its opium. Opium became a scourge in China due to addiction. China closed itself off from foreign trade. So we launched the opium wars against china and forced them to grow our opium and forced them to have ports for international trade. Then we sold out to china in the 1990s and began indebting ourselves to china. Our corrupt leaders sold us out in many ways to china and now Trump comes in to stop it. That is a hell of a serious problem. For China and the US. No matter how you slice it.


Now for Iran, again our corrupt CIA toppled their wonderful society in the 1950 and put in severe religious extremists who set up militias all over the middle east and over the decades strategized with the global deepstate to have a war across many nations, benefitting the deepstate of each nation, but not the victim nations such as Iraq, Syria, or Yemen. Mostly, Israel, Iran, and Saudi Arabia, the EU, and US. So, in Iran we turned it into the extremist place it is. So, now we have a president who wants out. How best to do it? If we pull out, Iran will take over Iraq and the middle east will be a mess and it will fester and cause us a never ending national security threat. Trump and the military know that they have to take out the key leadership. What would armedoldhippy do? I think the situation is likely to be far more complex than you or I can truly appreciate. But Trump has one shot to get things right. Many, many things, so that none of this ever happens again.

go back & re-read. we did not install "religious extremists," moron. we installed the Shah of Iran, who took to brutalizing his fellow countrymen in ways that would make Guatamalan gunmen blush. the religious extremists arose BECAUSE of what the CIA/Shah did to keep him in power. their "leadership" is whoever survived our LAST attempt to "settle things down". you cannot bomb/kill your way out of a situation that YOU caused by bombing/killing. are you calling for the extermination of the middle east? that is what it would take. how many million innocent people do you want to kill to make trump look "presidential" & justify your licking of his house slippers? he does not HAVE any "combat boots", at least, none that ever saw combat of any type.
 

armedoldhippy

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If Trump was just a blundering idiot like many of you think, then surly he would have been assassinated by now. The fact is that he and the military know exactly what they are up against and have taken extra precautions to make sure that they do not get stopped like JFK did. and that is why they chose someone with a clean criminal background like Donald Trump. Every attempt to "expose" him will only boomerang on the deepstate criminals.[/QU

:laughing:
 

Hempy McNoodle

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Lyme disease has been around for forever. it is getting more common because of the increased proximity that man & wildlife have due to rebounding populations of whitetail deer in certain areas of the country. Lyme, Connecticut (which gave the disease its name) is an incredibly wealthy area of the country full of "estates" modeled after British country life, chock full of wildlife. huge resulting deer population caused explosion of the disease. many homes there now have big flocks of guinea fowl which evolved eating...yup, ticks, in their native habitat in Africa. other hotbeds involve retirement communities (like Fairfield Glade here in TN) where geezers follow errant golf shots into the brush & come out crawling with ticks so small that they are nearly impossible to see. is there not a conspiracy theory that you don't swallow hook, line, and sinker? you are one sad puppy...:biggrin:



Plum Island animal testing facility changed hands a few times (CIA). Located just south of lyme Connecticut, there was a policy to shoot any mammal on sight to prevent diseases from reaching the mainland. Unfortunately, the island was declared an Audubon migratory bird sanctuary. Turns out deer ticks feed on birds too. Migratory birds tend to head north or south. Directly north of Plum Island is Lyme, CT. Lyme disease was officially discovered there in 1975.
 

Hempy McNoodle

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go back & re-read. we did not install "religious extremists," moron. we installed the Shah of Iran, who took to brutalizing his fellow countrymen in ways that would make Guatamalan gunmen blush. the religious extremists arose BECAUSE of what the CIA/Shah did to keep him in power. their "leadership" is whoever survived our LAST attempt to "settle things down". you cannot bomb/kill your way out of a situation that YOU caused by bombing/killing. are you calling for the extermination of the middle east? that is what it would take. how many million innocent people do you want to kill to make trump look "presidential" & justify your licking of his house slippers? he does not HAVE any "combat boots", at least, none that ever saw combat of any type.



The shaw was also a religious extremist. And anyway what is your deal dude? Are you even a stoner? who acts like that? LOL
 

Hempy McNoodle

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To put it simply, if we helped put in bad people. Then we need to take those bad people out or there wont be peace there will be bad shit because that's what bad people do. Bad shit. Obviously it's best to strike strategically key human and military targets and leave the population unscathed as can be.
 

Brother Nature

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Not sure, but that's a good question. The quote above is from Frank Church of The Church Committee on illegal CIA domestic activities in 1975 (coinciding with George HW Bush becoming CIA director). I think that the quote references an upcoming opportunity, perhaps due to advances in surveillance technologies. I believe the NSA was established in the early 1950s around the same time period as the CIA.


I was referring to the fact it was the Republican administration of Dick and Bush that gave the NSA the powers they have today, the same administration that your bro Trump chose to run under, not against, but under. As much as I like your idea of the guy getting into the system to destroy it, he's not proving that endgame.


The NSA essentially started under the Wilson administration in World War 1, but wasn't branded as the NSA until Truman decided to rebrand the US's cryptology sector as such.


I like Frank Church myself, not sure if I agree with your interpretation of the quote though, I feel like he's talking about a current reality (even then). The advances the NSA alread have in Quantum computing should be enough to scare any real American. It's not just the NSA though, look at what facebook, google, amazon, etc... know about us. Data and information are gold and it's not just those in government that know this.
 

Hempy McNoodle

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I was referring to the fact it was the Republican administration of Dick and Bush that gave the NSA the powers they have today, the same administration that your bro Trump chose to run under, not against, but under. As much as I like your idea of the guy getting into the system to destroy it, he's not proving that endgame.


The NSA essentially started under the Wilson administration in World War 1, but wasn't branded as the NSA until Truman decided to rebrand the US's cryptology sector as such.


I like Frank Church myself, not sure if I agree with your interpretation of the quote though, I feel like he's talking about a current reality (even then). The advances the NSA alread have in Quantum computing should be enough to scare any real American. It's not just the NSA though, look at what facebook, google, amazon, etc... know about us. Data and information are gold and it's not just those in government that know this.

I would say Trump had to wait until the Russian collusion scam was exposed for what it was; a coup. Trump could not dismantle the deepstate while the news media had credibility over peoples minds. The media would say that we were under attack by a russian asset. So, that is finally over. Trump and his admin can now work more quickly on things now.
 

Hempy McNoodle

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I heard someone make a good point; why wont the media interview any of salami's victims or families. Why wont they show what a piece of shit he was, instead of trying to make him look good. The media praises Soleimani and relentlessly puts down the president. Weird.
 

Brother Nature

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Maybe it's cause I'm drunk, but I'm actually interested in how you think Donald Trump can take down an institution that's been in place since the literal inception of the USA?


Qassem Soleiman was pretty much a Che Guavera figure in the Middle East, so perhaps that's why it's hard to find a bad word about him. Probably why we think he should have been assassinated too.
 

bigtacofarmer

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If Trump was just a blundering idiot like many of you think, then surly he would have been assassinated by now. The fact is that he and the military know exactly what they are up against and have taken extra precautions to make sure that they do not get stopped like JFK did. and that is why they chose someone with a clean criminal background like Donald Trump. Every attempt to "expose" him will only boomerang on the deepstate criminals.


Not yet but fingers are crossed
 
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I understand that there is corruption everywhere on all different levels by all kinds of people, and that when 2 corrupt people get together they can get even more than twice the power if they team up.

I do believe that none of us are completely incorruptible or completely corruptible.
I think the attitude of WE and THEY is a pretty simplistic view.
If there is a 'deep state' with a crisp line of who we are compared to who they are, who are they?
I don't believe that everything is a complete conspiracy, i am not religious, but i don't believe that in this stage of human evolution (or maybe even ever) that a group of people have the power to CONTROL everyone as much as a conspiracist does.
Influence, sure.... but just because there is TV on, no one is making you watch it and you can pretty much find whatever information you want these days.... you can spend your day doing whatever you like pretty much, in most countries.
If i want to learn about this or that i can- freely.... if i want to travel here or there and do whatever i want, within some human decency, i can.
That's pretty good freedom.... is life perfect, of course not.
We are they.
There will always be a pecking order of some kind, we choose to live like that.... what are you going to do to start from scratch?
Kill the 'deep state' and have Donald Trump and Kid Rock trying to create peace??
Government is more complex than that, no matter how much of an anarchist libertarian you feel you are.

This video is people with a persecution complex, and fear mongering, trying to free people from something that isn't there (again, influence from powerful people or groups?- yes, total control of the human race?- no).
Capitalism, straight pure capitalism, doesn't equal 'work hard get paid', it would eventually boil down to one person having all the money and the whole earth and everyone else would be dead :biglaugh:
I don't believe of an evil deep state or cabal all linked together with twisting their moustaches of how badly they can ruin everyones lives.... everyone has their own level of evil.... EVERYONE.... that's what this symbol means :ying:

(Wow, bit of a CBD mango haze and sour livers ramble there.... i'm not even going to reread what i wrote to see if it makes sense :bigeye: )
 
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