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The 2020 Presidential Election

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minds_I

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I believe many Republicans are corrupt including Mitch McConnell. It's not a conversation I'm going to have with people like you who obsess over Trump and the Republican party 24/7. You think I'm team Republican, I don't even consider Trump a Republican. If Trump provides a strong economy, positive trade deals, and just about everything else he campaigned on then I will be satisfied. I stopped listening to your warning signs after years of the Russia nonsense and always chasing the next scandal. I believe you just want your party in power by any means necessary and you won't change my mind.


Hello all,

At what cost though....the man lies to you, me and all of America daily, the man lashes out in anger to a 16 yo activist cause he did not make the cover of Time and she did. The man demeans his perceived opponents with childish verbal nicknames....I could go on.

So, as long as your interests are benefited, you would trade what most would consider common decency, morals, integrity and some would say Christian values? Should they exist in any measure.

So, it is clear you made your choice....but again at what cost?

minds_I

Interesting timing ey?

Republican senator: ‘I don’t think President Trump, as a person, is a role model’

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...k-president-trump-as-a-person-is-a-role-model
 
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Mr D

Forest management budget was cut by 2b$. When you don't have the funds how can you do the job. Ca spent 111M$ since 2017. Half of which was spend on Fed lands. Ca Budget was paying to keep fed lands upkeep. It was the Fed gov that caused the fire issues here in Cali by slashing funds to rake those leaves.

Tax payers should not be funding forest management to prevent wildfires from destroying homes, or beach replenishment to save homes, or flood plain controls to save peoples homes.

If you want to live in areas where natural disasters predate humans then that should be your problem. Raking 33 million acres of forest is lunacy to even suggest.

The answer to poor planning and or poor decisions is not to throw more money at them.
 

minds_I

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Tax payers should not be funding forest management to prevent wildfires from destroying homes, or beach replenishment to save homes, or flood plain controls to save peoples homes.

If you want to live in areas where natural disasters predate humans then that should be your problem. Raking 33 million acres of forest is lunacy to even suggest.

The answer to poor planning and or poor decisions is not to throw more money at them.

Hello all,

We agree....and yet Impotus said that California should rake there forests more...even though the majority of Ca forests are BLM owned....go figure ey?

minds_I
 

minds_I

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If anyone thinks a politician, professional athlete, actor should even be considered a role model that speaks to how fucked up pop culture and society at large has become.

Hello all,

Well, as a kid, I was raised that anyone can be grow up to be president....looks like that went just a little to far ey?

minds_I
 
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Mr D

I believe many Republicans are corrupt including Mitch McConnell. It's not a conversation I'm going to have with people like you who obsess over Trump and the Republican party 24/7. You think I'm team Republican, I don't even consider Trump a Republican. If Trump provides a strong economy, positive trade deals, and just about everything else he campaigned on then I will be satisfied. I stopped listening to your warning signs after years of the Russia nonsense and always chasing the next scandal. I believe you just want your party in power by any means necessary and you won't change my mind.

Why bother they can't even understand that there echo chambers are shrinking with every new "outrage".

They and there news sources have no credibility outside of there shrinking circles. Today for instance..

Meet Erin Biba, a science writer who has contributed to National Geographic, BBC, Scientific American, NBC News, PopSci, The Daily Beast, Gizmodo, Earther, Dame and WIRED magazine.

She blamed last night's attack at a synagogue in Monsey, by a black man, on white supremacy.

I wonder how many of the fake news tool bags in here have used people like her to make the claim of a surge in attacks by white supremacist is a "fact".
 
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Mr D

Hello all,

Well, as a kid, I was raised that anyone can be grow up to be president....looks like that went just a little to far ey?

minds_I

Only adults with the mind of a child do not understand that all politicians are corrupt liars.

It's parents job to be role models for their children.
 
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Mr D

Up to 40% of homeless Americans are employed
#themoreyouknow

Do you have a source for that?

I looked it up and found it to be dubious claim based on a survey done in 1996.

A report by the Urban Institute, a Washington think tank.

The report -- "Homelessness: Programs and the People They Serve: Findings of the National Survey of Homeless Assistance Providers and Clients" -- found that "almost half (44 percent) of homeless clients did some paid work during the 30 days before being interviewed."
 

minds_I

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Only adults with the mind of a child do not understand that all politicians are corrupt liars.

It's parents job to be role models for their children.

Hello all,

First, should we not expect more from our politicians? Or just except the status quo?

And second, wtf, can a person have more than two role models?

minds_I
 
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Mr D

https://apnews.com/caa4c5aaf88e982e...Twitter&utm_medium=AP&utm_campaign=SocialFlow
The Taliban’s ruling council agreed Sunday to a temporary cease-fire in Afghanistan, providing a window in which a peace agreement with the United States can be signed, officials from the insurgent group said. They didn’t say when it would begin.

A cease-fire had been demanded by Washington before any peace agreement could be signed. A peace deal would allow the U.S. to bring home its troops from Afghanistan and end its 18-year military engagement there, America’s longest.


If this happens how long until the left starts crying about how we should stay.
 

h.h.

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I believe many Republicans are corrupt including Mitch McConnell. It's not a conversation I'm going to have with people like you who obsess over Trump and the Republican party 24/7. You think I'm team Republican, I don't even consider Trump a Republican. If Trump provides a strong economy, positive trade deals, and just about everything else he campaigned on then I will be satisfied. I stopped listening to your warning signs after years of the Russia nonsense and always chasing the next scandal. I believe you just want your party in power by any means necessary and you won't change my mind.

The economy started with Obama.
Nancy fixed the USMCA.
Now the republicans do nothing.
It won’t make a shit of difference to us anyway.

Trump follows all of the republican policies. Tied at the hip with Mitch.

Russia and “I love Wikileaks” was corruption and the swamp at its finest.
I don’t support democrats just because I want to be a democrat.
I’m not a never trumper due to him being an honest guy.

Trump is a disgrace.
 
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Mr D

Hello all,

First, should we not expect more from our politicians? Or just except the status quo?

And second, wtf, can a person have more than two role models?

minds_I

I was never wired to be a follower or need a role model. I have met people who I have a great deal of respect for and would make a good role model for those in need of one.

The media does not shine the spot light on those who could serve as role models for those who need one. Going back to JFK I can't think of a single president worthy of being considered a role model.

Politicians deceive as a matter of course which makes them horrible role models unless your goal is to be a sociopath.
 

Cannavore

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Do you have a source for that?

I looked it up and found it to be dubious claim based on a survey done in 1996.

i'll have to look it up but it's probably the same institute who did the study in 96.... urban institute i think they're called.

and yes my comment was a bit incorrect because it's more like 40% are either employed or looking for work.
 
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Mr D

i'll have to look it up but it's probably the same institute who did the study in 96.... urban institute i think they're called.

and yes my comment was a bit incorrect because it's more like 40% are either employed or looking for work.

Back in the 80's I moonlighted as a food vendor in AC. The visible local homeless population was small, maybe 20 - 30 people. I would feed 20 or 30 of them a night and employ one of them as an errand runner on a rotating basis. If one of those 20 - 30 people were asked if they were paid for work within the last 30 days they could honestly say yes.....but that didn't make them employed.
 

minds_I

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I was never wired to be a follower or need a role model. I have met people who I have a great deal of respect for and would make a good role model for those in need of one.

The media does not shine the spot light on those who could serve as role models for those who need one. Going back to JFK I can't think of a single president worthy of being considered a role model.

Politicians deceive as a matter of course which makes them horrible role models unless your goal is to be a sociopath.

deflection? can't answer questions... kinda what I expected.
 
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Mr D

deflection? can't answer questions... kinda what I expected.

Deflection? Not sure I follow?

If you need 10 role models that's your cross to bare, you can have as many as you want.

I preferred to steer my children away from outsiders or media endorsed role models. My wife and I felt it was our job to serve as our children's role models. I'm guessing your parents were different. That's OK and I guess I can understand your need for a role model or two. It's just not something I support personally.
 
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