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The 2020 Presidential Election

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igrowone

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It most certainly is political. A rock could figure that out and it has no brain.

And I think you show ho NASA has changed their data you would loose the argument about who would be believed.
and i respect your right to choice
but NASA is not a political entity, it's a scientific one
you can't see that because it's all politics to you
 

White Beard

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I'm here to have a conversation, what are you disagreeing with?

My Rights have been taken, we've been lied to. We have to counter the lies and have discussions to help voters determine the truth.

There's nothing wrong with what I'm posting. In fact, many people are thanking me and giving me positive reputation for sharing!

What do you have to share? :smoke:

I’m disagreeing with you.

Specifically with your assertion that you are “here to have a conversation”. I don’t believe you. You’ve made NO ATTEMPT to start a conversation or to join one, and you reject all efforts to address the articles you keep posting as if they speak for you.

These articles can’t speak for you: it’s an undifferentiated swirl of paranoid fantasy, wishful/hateful thinking, deliberate deception and misinformation. They only speak for fanatics and paid agents - and there’s no conversing with fanatics OR paid agents.

It’s the same as using a megaphone and someone else’s script: that’s not a conversation, that’s a harangue.

To make this simple: I started digging into “this stuff” in the mid 60s; I’ve been shocked, surprised, shaken, and I’ve learned a lot. The stuff you post is DISinformation, much of it with fake roots and true antecedents from the 60s and 70s. The real threats to this nation have been sandbagging the so-called “right” for DECADES. They DECIDED to dupe you. They worked diligently. They now have a sizable number of “patriots” who never learned the first real thing about how to protect themselves (and others) from lies and their liars.

So, there you are, nipple-deep in the swamp, slinging sludge as loud and fast as possible, and never listening to a goddam thing anyone says in response. You don’t want a conversation.

You want hallelujahs. You want recognition. You want to WIN.

Prove me wrong.
 

Microbeman

The Logical Gardener
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Look up founding fathers of America writings. Bad ticket said I can't post links, so if I post something it needs to matter. You can do your own research into history! Go! :smoke:

This is the very advice I gave you and you have still not responded to my challenge to your assertion that a law must be broken for impeachment. Also, I posted a comment about Trump's letter the very first time you posted it. There are many times you do not respond and then you say nobody addresses what you post. Sometimes you just post a deflective comment or say someone needs to repeat what they said rather than you looking it up.

You research the foundational documents as I've suggested many times. I already posted links previously. Please do not accuse others of what you do yourself.

PS. My comment about you owning a weapon being scary is related to the seemingly 'crazy' inflationary comments you make. I have nothing against sane people owning weapons. Just ask Armed Hippy.
 

Microbeman

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Exactly my point. You wont accept what I say and I wont accept what you say.

There are loads of other people out there that refute global warming. Hell I think even Time did a article in the seventies about how the planet was cooling.

Gee. That's why the northwest passage is open.
 
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Capra ibex

I’m disagreeing with you.

Specifically with your assertion that you are “here to have a conversation”. I don’t believe you. You’ve made NO ATTEMPT to start a conversation or to join one, and you reject all efforts to address the articles you keep posting as if they speak for you.

These articles can’t speak for you: it’s an undifferentiated swirl of paranoid fantasy, wishful/hateful thinking, deliberate deception and misinformation. They only speak for fanatics and paid agents - and there’s no conversing with fanatics OR paid agents.

It’s the same as using a megaphone and someone else’s script: that’s not a conversation, that’s a harangue.

To make this simple: I started digging into “this stuff” in the mid 60s; I’ve been shocked, surprised, shaken, and I’ve learned a lot. The stuff you post is DISinformation, much of it with fake roots and true antecedents from the 60s and 70s. The real threats to this nation have been sandbagging the so-called “right” for DECADES. They DECIDED to dupe you. They worked diligently. They now have a sizable number of “patriots” who never learned the first real thing about how to protect themselves (and others) from lies and their liars.

So, there you are, nipple-deep in the swamp, slinging sludge as loud and fast as possible, and never listening to a goddam thing anyone says in response. You don’t want a conversation.

You want hallelujahs. You want recognition. You want to WIN.

Prove me wrong.

You need to process this, Pipeline.
 

pipeline

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If you don't believe NASA then no discussion can be had. Nobody has studied the climate like them. Now your posting the fruit loops from youtube because no respectable university will hire them. Your videos never have them debating anybody. Just spoken word.




I posted this earlier, but it may have got deleted by the mods or got buried, I couldn't find it.


Hopefully Bad Ticket will cool down. I will be courteous. Lets see if we can debate. I will address some of the other ones inluding White Beard, if you guys are nice, tomorrow.



Have a good weekend! :smoke:








NASA discusses how The Melankovich model for predicting climate was found to be true and accurately explained weather back 600,000 years which they could verify using deep-sea sediment cores.

https://www.naturalnews.com/2019-08...e-change-not-caused-by-suvs-fossil-fuels.html

https://halturnerradioshow.com/inde...olar-orbit-and-axial-tilt-not-man-made-causes




NASA website:


milankovitch_title.gif
Using these three orbital variations, Milankovitch was able to formulate a comprehensive mathematical model that calculated latitudinal differences in insolation and the corresponding surface temperature for 600,000 years prior to the year 1800. He then attempted to correlate these changes with the growth and retreat of the Ice Ages. To do this, Milankovitch assumed that radiation changes in some latitudes and seasons are more important to ice sheet growth and decay than those in others. Then, at the suggestion of German Climatologist Vladimir Koppen, he chose summer insolation at 65 degrees North as the most important latitude and season to model, reasoning that great ice sheets grew near this latitude and that cooler summers might reduce summer snowmelt, leading to a positive annual snow budget and ice sheet growth.
orbital_variation.gif

But, for about 50 years, Milankovitch's theory was largely ignored. Then, in 1976, a study published in the journal Science examined deep-sea sediment cores and found that Milankovitch's theory did in fact correspond to periods of climate change (Hays et al. 1976). Specifically, the authors were able to extract the record of temperature change going back 450,000 years and found that major variations in climate were closely associated with changes in the geometry (eccentricity, obliquity, and precession) of Earth's orbit. Indeed, ice ages had occurred when the Earth was going through different stages of orbital variation.
Since this study, the National Research Council of the U.S. National Academy of Sciences has embraced the Milankovitch Cycle model.



https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/features/Milankovitch/milankovitch.php


https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/features/Milankovitch/milankovitch_2.php


https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/features/Milankovitch/milankovitch_3.php
 

pipeline

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This is the very advice I gave you and you have still not responded to my challenge to your assertion that a law must be broken for impeachment. Also, I posted a comment about Trump's letter the very first time you posted it. There are many times you do not respond and then you say nobody addresses what you post. Sometimes you just post a deflective comment or say someone needs to repeat what they said rather than you looking it up.

You research the foundational documents as I've suggested many times. I already posted links previously. Please do not accuse others of what you do yourself.

PS. My comment about you owning a weapon being scary is related to the seemingly 'crazy' inflationary comments you make. I have nothing against sane people owning weapons. Just ask Armed Hippy.


Bring it out again, what do ya got? :smoke:


How is Donald trump going to be guilty without breaking a law again?
 

pipeline

Cannabotanist
ICMag Donor
Veteran
I’m disagreeing with you.

Specifically with your assertion that you are “here to have a conversation”. I don’t believe you. You’ve made NO ATTEMPT to start a conversation or to join one, and you reject all efforts to address the articles you keep posting as if they speak for you.

These articles can’t speak for you: it’s an undifferentiated swirl of paranoid fantasy, wishful/hateful thinking, deliberate deception and misinformation. They only speak for fanatics and paid agents - and there’s no conversing with fanatics OR paid agents.

It’s the same as using a megaphone and someone else’s script: that’s not a conversation, that’s a harangue.

To make this simple: I started digging into “this stuff” in the mid 60s; I’ve been shocked, surprised, shaken, and I’ve learned a lot. The stuff you post is DISinformation, much of it with fake roots and true antecedents from the 60s and 70s. The real threats to this nation have been sandbagging the so-called “right” for DECADES. They DECIDED to dupe you. They worked diligently. They now have a sizable number of “patriots” who never learned the first real thing about how to protect themselves (and others) from lies and their liars.

So, there you are, nipple-deep in the swamp, slinging sludge as loud and fast as possible, and never listening to a goddam thing anyone says in response. You don’t want a conversation.

You want hallelujahs. You want recognition. You want to WIN.

Prove me wrong.




I've been so disrespected by most of you guys, and the arguments you have are never of substance.



The arguments you propose utilize controlled mainstream media which has been proven to be fake-news propaganda, no less! Prove me wrong.


Also, the arguments are never detailed, so I have nothing to refute. Perfect, no need to respond, once again....




What do you have for me? :smoke:
 
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Capra ibex

I've been so disrespected by most of you guys, and the arguments you have are never of substance.



The arguments you propose utilize controlled mainstream media which has been proven to be fake-news propaganda, no less! Prove me wrong.


Also, the arguments are never detailed, so I have nothing to refute. Perfect, no need to respond, once again....




What do you have for me? :smoke:

This attitude will leave you in the dark forever dude.
You may as well live in North Korea.
Have a great life.
 
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