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The 2020 Presidential Election

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Ichabod Crane

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When you are done with that video which is only about 12 minutes here is something for you to read.

https://www.manhattancontrarian.com...eatest-scientific-fraud-of-all-time-part-xxii

There are a lot of people who have recorded data from NASA and other places that contradict what is said today because the data has been changed. If we can not have a honest discussion what is the point?

I am done because like I said you believe what you believe and wont change your view. And I wont change my view so it is a dead argument.
 

Absolem

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When you are done with that video which is only about 12 minutes here is something for you to read.

https://www.manhattancontrarian.com...eatest-scientific-fraud-of-all-time-part-xxii

There are a lot of people who have recorded data from NASA and other places that contradict what is said today because the data has been changed. If we can not have a honest discussion what is the point?

I am done because like I said you believe what you believe and wont change your view. And I wont change my view so it is a dead argument.

If you don't believe NASA then no discussion can be had. Nobody has studied the climate like them. Now your posting the fruit loops from youtube because no respectable university will hire them. Your videos never have them debating anybody. Just spoken word.
 

Ichabod Crane

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OMG. If you used that as you source in college you would be laughed at.


Sorry Chap. Not going to believe Steven Goddard/Tony Heller who has been a proven liar.

Exactly my point. You wont accept what I say and I wont accept what you say.

There are loads of other people out there that refute global warming. Hell I think even Time did a article in the seventies about how the planet was cooling.
 

Absolem

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Exactly my point. You wont accept what I say and I wont accept what you say.

There are loads of other people out there that refute global warming. Hell I think even Time did a article in the seventies about how the planet was cooling.

I can give you links to the climate charts at NASA. Can you give me links to any climate charts you believe? I don't accept what you say because it's NOT SCIENCE. It's just some dudes on youtube who have no respect in the science community. It's like not believing what a commercial grow like Jungle Boys has and believing some newbie.

All I can say is get yourself some better science on the climate.
 

Ichabod Crane

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I can give you links to the climate charts at NASA. Can you give me links to any climate charts you believe? I don't accept what you say because it's NOT SCIENCE. It's just some dudes on youtube who have no respect in the science community. It's like not believing what a commercial grow like Jungle Boys has and believing some newbie.

All I can say is get yourself some better science on the climate.

You said he is a liar but provide no proof. So get yourself better science.

And like I said it wont change shit. So lets get back to how the dems are lying about Trump.
 

Absolem

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You said he is a liar but provide no proof. So get yourself better science.

And like I said it wont change shit. So lets get back to how the dems are lying about Trump.

Here's your proof. Unlike the junk videos you hand out.
https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/

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igrowone

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Exactly my point. You wont accept what I say and I wont accept what you say.

There are loads of other people out there that refute global warming. Hell I think even Time did a article in the seventies about how the planet was cooling.
these people only skills are posts/videos that are seemingly cool
but they have no real, science is real
but i accept you believe it
but reality steamrollers false beliefs
 

ambertrichome

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If the US military is facing up to the climate crisis ...
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/nov/12/us-military-pentagon-climate...





New U.S. Army War College Report Urges Action on Climate ...
https://imccs.org/.../08/01/new-u-s-army-war-college-report-urges-action-on-climate-change

Aug 01, 2019 · Climate change is radically altering the theater of operations and the homefront, increasing the challenges the U.S. military faces at each stage of its national security mission. This report echoes the need to more fully incorporate climate threats into our security awareness and military

U.S. Military Report Warns Climate Change Threatens Key Bases
https://insideclimatenews.org/news/18012019/military-bases-climate-change-risks...

Jan 18, 2019 · U.S. Military Report Warns Climate Change Threatens Key Bases A new Pentagon report identifies significant risks from climate change at scores of military bases …
 

Ichabod Crane

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It is not just him. It is also the records from around the first world war showing no ice in areas that now have ice. And other shit that you guys just dismiss.

And there is a shitton of money in the global warming scam. That is why shit is changed. But also there is peer pressure by people like you that belittle anything you dont agree with.
It is common on the left to chastise anyone that does not conform to group think and call them stupid or what not. You simply refuse to accept that you could be wrong so you put yourself on a platform and claim the high ground. Then you try to bury anything that you disagree with. You censor the other side. Ala youtube, goggle,facebook.

So I think I am right and you think you are right. Time will show.
 

Absolem

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It is not just him. It is also the records from around the first world war showing no ice in areas that now have ice. And other shit that you guys just dismiss.

And there is a shitton of money in the global warming scam. That is why shit is changed. But also there is peer pressure by people like you that belittle anything you dont agree with.
It is common on the left to chastise anyone that does not conform to group think and call them stupid or what not. You simply refuse to accept that you could be wrong so you put yourself on a platform and claim the high ground. Then you try to bury anything that you disagree with. You censor the other side. Ala youtube, goggle,facebook.

So I think I am right and you think you are right. Time will show.


You should check out "Google Scholar". It's google's search engine for peer reviewed lab and University Studies or case law. I use it all the time to look up plant research regarding my grow.

https://scholar.google.com/
 

Absolem

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It is not just him. It is also the records from around the first world war showing no ice in areas that now have ice. And other shit that you guys just dismiss.

And there is a shitton of money in the global warming scam. That is why shit is changed. But also there is peer pressure by people like you that belittle anything you dont agree with.
It is common on the left to chastise anyone that does not conform to group think and call them stupid or what not. You simply refuse to accept that you could be wrong so you put yourself on a platform and claim the high ground. Then you try to bury anything that you disagree with. You censor the other side. Ala youtube, goggle,facebook.

So I think I am right and you think you are right. Time will show.

If we were presenting our sides to a person who had no knowledge of climate change and you showed them your videos and I explained to them about NASA putting a man on the moon, studying the climates of planets around our solar system, sent probes to mars. etc.

Who do you think a third party would be more convinced by? Sometimes it's best to remove yourself and ask how would a third party view the situation.

I accidentally hit like on your post.
 

igrowone

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It is not just him. It is also the records from around the first world war showing no ice in areas that now have ice. And other shit that you guys just dismiss.

And there is a shitton of money in the global warming scam. That is why shit is changed. But also there is peer pressure by people like you that belittle anything you dont agree with.
It is common on the left to chastise anyone that does not conform to group think and call them stupid or what not. You simply refuse to accept that you could be wrong so you put yourself on a platform and claim the high ground. Then you try to bury anything that you disagree with. You censor the other side. Ala youtube, goggle,facebook.

So I think I am right and you think you are right. Time will show.
and this the fundamental stumbling block
you're seeing it as political, and that blinds all other considerations
 

Ichabod Crane

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and this the fundamental stumbling block
you're seeing it as political, and that blinds all other considerations

It most certainly is political. A rock could figure that out and it has no brain.

And I think you show ho NASA has changed their data you would loose the argument about who would be believed.
 
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It is not just him. It is also the records from around the first world war showing no ice in areas that now have ice. And other shit that you guys just dismiss.

And there is a shitton of money in the global warming scam. That is why shit is changed. But also there is peer pressure by people like you that belittle anything you dont agree with.
It is common on the left to chastise anyone that does not conform to group think and call them stupid or what not. You simply refuse to accept that you could be wrong so you put yourself on a platform and claim the high ground. Then you try to bury anything that you disagree with. You censor the other side. Ala youtube, goggle,facebook.

So I think I am right and you think you are right. Time will show.

Scientific consensus is the determining factor.
People trust scientific consensus because it is the CONSENSUS of hundreds of thousands or millions of scientists.... all their work is cross checked, peer reviewed etc. etc.
Yes, not ALL scientists will agree on everything but the overwhelming CONSENSUS is what makes theories accepted.
 

Absolem

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It most certainly is political. A rock could figure that out and it has no brain.

And I think you show ho NASA has changed their data you would loose the argument about who would be believed.

Post your evidence NASA has changed their data. If not. It's just your opinion and hearsay. Peer reviewed. Not some youtube video.
 
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