The 2020 Presidential Election

[Hammerhead]

The Italian Society for Rheumatology studied 65,000 patients on longterm hydroxychloroquine for RA and Lupus.

Only 20 patients tested positive for COVID-19. No ICU, no deaths.

This is a 90% reduction in infection rate compared to the rest of Italy


For now, in support of this "prophylaxis" effect, there is a recent publication, involving 211 people. It was published in the International Journal of Antimicrobial Agents, the official body of the International Society of Antimicrobial Chemotherapy. Of 211 people exposed to Covid19 positive individuals and subjected to prophylaxis with hydroxychloroquine, none were infected.

Well, maybe ol T-Rump may be on to something after all.....

Not really, Taking any antivirals would do the same. A true test would be hydroxychloroquine vs other antivirals. Which does the least harm.

 

[Microbeman]

Hempy, You said it's over the counter in India. I told you everything is over the counter in India - third world country. It doesn't matter if they are taking a drug for malaria or cat scratch fever. You just go to the pharmacy and get what you need. They don't do prescriptions in third world countries.

Your initial comment inferred that it was "over the counter in India" because it was so benign. Now you're way off course Hempy.

Speaking for Mexico, some things are by prescription but a lot is over the counter. HCQ was right up until Trump flapped his jowls and the govt said by scrip only.

 

['Boogieman']

Education, and advertising.

Do you believe education is more important than freedom? I have looked into how Cuba is ran today after a conversation with you long ago. Doctors who drive taxis to make money and live a miserable life, it makes me wonder what the point of getting an education is if they can't use the education to better their lives or make any real decisions in life?

 

[igrowone]

i believe it may be somewhat inaccurate to lump all drugs available without prescription into the 'over the counter' umbrella
different countries, different practices
pharmacists may provide information, not everyone is going to start stuffing meds down their throats without some help

 

[NEW ENGLAND]

I can tell ya the taxis run regularly from the pharmacies in mexico to the post office.

 

[igrowone]

I can tell ya the taxis run regularly from the pharmacies in mexico to the post office.

i get the personal feeling that USA citizens are probably the most likely to self medicate
i get the impression many places of more modest means put more responsibility on their citizens to make sensible choices
which is what is was like in the USA for quite some time

 

[Hammerhead]

What do you expect. Look at the people we continue to elect to gov us. On many issues we aren't even close to the same as what 3rd world country's do for there people.

 

[Zeez]

Speaking for Mexico, some things are by prescription but a lot is over the counter. HCQ was right up until Trump flapped his jowls and the govt said by scrip only.

Last couple times I went to Mexico everything was available. I wasn't looking for schedule 1 so, really can't say.

 

[NEW ENGLAND]

i get the personal feeling that USA citizens are probably the most likely to self medicate
i get the impression many places of more modest means put more responsibility on their citizens to make sensible choices
which is what is was like in the USA for quite some time

Thanks to Dr Google,I cant argue with that.
Cant tell you how many people give me a list of current meds that include an array of vitamins,and herbs.
Without seeking out the adverse interactions with prescribed medications,they think because it's over the counter,and pumped by late night infomercials that they are harmless.

 

[hubcap]

Do you believe education is more important than freedom?

in many ways, they are synonymous. at least in my view.

-cap

 

[hubcap]

Wouldn't the 1st step be a POTUS that will work with both sides.

No. Having one that works with ALL sides would be the preferred 1st step. Once again...."my side v your side." There are some in the middle of the two. In my view, that's the majority of America. But, again....just one opinion of many.

Having a moron that shits on everyone that doesn't agree with him is a bad starting point.

The last 6 presidents were morons that shit on everyone that didn't agree with them. They were just better at disguising it than the Mango Mussolini that you refer to. They were more "politically correct" when they acted in the same manner. More polite, if you will.

again. just one opinion of many.

At the end of the day, at the end of all long winded diatribes.....Trump's our president whether we like him or not.
We'd be petty and foolish to wish failure upon him.
Kinda like shooting off your own pinky toe.

Unity is an elusive character, indeed. In fact, we see it already in this election....with people saying vote Biden because he's 'not Trump."
Really???
This is a platform to run on?
If youre ok with that, youre part of the problem.

Elect people that you think will acutally accomplish something in your interest. Not just because they wear a different shirt than the guy or gal you dont like.............
....once again circling back to the "my side is better than your side" crap that has gripped this nation.

our problem lies in the fact that the normal, rational people will never make it to the final ticket.

As yourself why, exactly, that is........................

and lets, collectively, drop the 'my side is better than yours' crap.


-cap

 

[Gry]

Do you believe education is more important than freedom? I have looked into how Cuba is ran today after a conversation with you long ago. Doctors who drive taxis to make money and live a miserable life, it makes me wonder what the point of getting an education is if they can't use the education to better their lives or make any real decisions in life?

the point of an education is to appreciate and maintain our democracy. what is it that you find objectionable about driving a cab. I was taught that it was an admirable thing to work to improve one's lot in life. Why would it be any different in Cuba?

 

[NEW ENGLAND]

No. Having one that works with ALL sides would be the preferred 1st step. Once again...."my side v your side." There are some in the middle of the two. In my view, that's the majority of America. But, again....just one opinion of many.



The last 6 presidents were morons that shit on everyone that didn't agree with them. They were just better at disguising it than the Mango Mussolini that you refer to. They were more "politically correct" when they acted in the same manner. More polite, if you will.

again. just one opinion of many.

At the end of the day, at the end of all long winded diatribes.....Trump's our president whether we like him or not.
We'd be petty and foolish to wish failure upon him.
Kinda like shooting off your own pinky toe.

Unity is an elusive character, indeed. In fact, we see it already in this election....with people saying vote Biden because he's 'not Trump."
Really???
This is a platform to run on?
If youre ok with that, youre part of the problem.

Elect people that you think will acutally accomplish something in your interest. Not just because they wear a different shirt than the guy or gal you dont like.............
....once again circling back to the "my side is better than your side" crap that has gripped this nation.

our problem lies in the fact that the normal, rational people will never make it to the final ticket.

As yourself why, exactly, that is........................

and lets, collectively, drop the 'my side is better than yours' crap.


-cap

Or voting for biden for his VP pick,whoever it is.
Kamala ?

 

['Boogieman']

the point of an education is to appreciate and maintain our democracy. what is it that you find objectionable about driving a cab. I was taught that it was an admirable thing to work to improve one's lot in life. Why would it be any different in Cuba?

Nothing is wrong with driving a taxi at all. From what I have read many people in Cuba are well educated but can't use their education to better their lives like we can here. Apparently many doctors get assigned by their Government to drive taxis because of the tourism industry. I just want to know what you think about that.

 

[Hempy McNoodle]

I wonder where it came from.
'Released' by who?
Private individual?
Ukrainian?

Makes great sense to me
You'll never guess how I found out about this video...

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/zelensky-probe-audio-biden-ukraine

 

[Hempy McNoodle]

If I had the answer to that, I'D be running for office to do just that, Hempy. Even though I don't have the ego or narcissism required.....
I would do it just to have that end result and ride off into the sunset. No pay required. No special healthcare or security detail for life. Achieving that goal would be more than enough reward.

Back to the point Ive been harping on in multiple posts....

Too much "my side is better than your side" bullshit to see a clear-cut path to unity.

There's just
Too much finger pointing.
Too much corruption.
Too much passing the buck.
Too much hypocrisy.
Too much spite.
Too many extreme elements (right and left) poisoning the soup.
Too much big state vs little state crap going on.
Too much "Im better than you are" crap going on.

The list of ailments is long. And, frankly, all of those capable of cutting through all of that to unite the country, in my opinon, are wise enough to keep the job they currently have.


I truly wish I could give you an answer, Hempy. I care deeply for this country. Even for those that may disagree with me. Or think they are better than me.
At the end of the day, we all sleep in the same barn.

Thanks for your kind words. It was my pleasure to serve in the military. I'd lace up today, if called to do so again.

-cap

Greetings hubcap, I think this response of yours above was misdirected to me. It was actually New England who asked the question and thanked you for your service. But I also thank you for your service and appreciate your sentiment, insight, and respectful discourse. We are all in this together.

Cheers!

 

[Gry]

Nothing is wrong with driving a taxi at all. From what I have read many people in Cuba are well educated but can't use their education to better their liveHHhhhs like we can here. Apparently many doctors get assigned by their Government to drive taxis because of the tourism industry. I just want to know what you think about that.

All work has dignity.

It would not hurt to expand your horizons when 'looking into things'.

 

[Hammerhead]

No. Having one that works with ALL sides

I just said the same exact thing.. There is only 2 sides. Tell me when there was a POTUS that wasn't a dem/rep. Its obvious you cant tell who's much worse. You think what Ass clown does is the same as what previous ass clows have done, you have blinders on just like all Trumpturd supporters do. What passed POTUS have done aren't even close to the idiocy of Trump. Your comparing apples to oranges. I have no dog in this fight. Neither of these dummies is my side. It ain't that hard for me to tell who's more corrupt.

 

[Microbeman]

Nothing is wrong with driving a taxi at all. From what I have read many people in Cuba are well educated but can't use their education to better their lives like we can here. Apparently many doctors get assigned by their Government to drive taxis because of the tourism industry. I just want to know what you think about that.

Actually Cuban trained doctors are in demand all over the world but the wages they receive are low, like everyone in Cuba.

https://www.economist.com/the-americas/2020/04/04/cubas-doctors-are-in-high-demand

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-48214513

https://theculturetrip.com/caribbean/cuba/articles/why-cuba-has-the-best-doctors-in-the-world/

 

[packerfan79]

Hey look we should be at an advantage in the Covid battle.

https://youtu.be/zUCPrLusiKU