The 2020 Presidential Election

[Jestocost]

Like, maaaaan. I'm 39, my Dad is dead 17 years now, I have a wife and two kids, and I own a trucking business.

You're a 15 year old with arthritis, espousing ideals - or lack of - that led to the world I have to navigate.

"I have no friends, am a hippie, and hate Trump" isn't a worldview or a personality. It's a last grasp for relevance in a wasted life.

If you had nutted up and started a family, a business, or original thought you might be more than some aging critic, sitting on the sidelines in between cashing SS checks.

Geriatric kids these days.

 

[mean mr.mustard]

The hate is still flowing freely for all to see.

It's more than obvious.

 

[Guest]

Life is too short to waste.

 

[Jestocost]

Where we live most all of the people are Irish, Italian, Portuguese and more recently Brazilian. I could translate that to Archie Bunker for ya.

All of this hate for foreigners is a trump - ultra right thing. This country has been built by immigrants for 250 years. Why is it a crime now? Who's going to do the shit jobs that nobody else wants?

JFC. FDR put one of the vanishingly few good immigrant minority groups in internment camps.

Archie Bunker worked and kept his family together.
That's not something you can say about most of the immigrants coming to the States these days.

But broken families, low intelligence, and state dependency are cool because Orange Man Bad, right?

 

[mean mr.mustard]

So would you expand a bit on which of the immigrant minority groups you deem "good" and the reasons behind your judgement?

Many immigrants are here because they are trying to get a fair shake and distance themselves from their country of origin.

It's incredibly shortsighted to judge entire nations as unworthy of immigration, but you fit right in with Trump's administration.

The days of the individual being judged on their own character seem to be over.

America must be great again.

 

[Jestocost]

So would you expand a bit on which of the immigrant minority groups you deem "good" and the reasons behind your judgement?

Many immigrants are here because they are trying to get a fair shake and distance themselves from their country of origin.

It's incredibly shortsighted to judge entire nations as unworthy of immigration, but you fit right in with Trump's administration.

The days of the individual being judged on their own character seem to be over.

America must be great again.

Then go back to immigration from Scandinavia, Europe, and E Asia only.

Those "fair shakes" folks need to stay home and fix their own house, instead of bringing their discord here.

Judging a nation by, oh, recorded history isn't shortsighted.

You need to understand how immigration works before talking about it. Dysfunction isn't magically cured upon arrival in a healthy society.

 

[mean mr.mustard]

Still waiting.

 

[Zeez]

Because the majority of our immigrants are now coming from third-world shitholes, and bringing their 85 IQ with them.

It's the thing the Left doesn't talk about. Successful immigration isn't dependent on destination. It's all about origin.

So of course Germans and English built a solid country. That's not applicable here. When you're dealing with Somalis and Hondurans all they do is bring their broken societies and genomes and trash our functioning society with them.

Asians tend to work. But the Left doesn't talk about them, either, due to breaking the minority victim wall.

Congratulations. You have graduated from the Archie Bunker school of political correctness and earned your new fashionable stereotype goggles. You will never know the genius of Norman Lear. It was much easier to identify you Archie when you used names like Guinea, Wap, Kraut, Slope, Mick, Lymie, Pommie, Frog, Nigga, Pollak, Kunt etc. You're fuckin brilliant.

*DING DING DING*
You said the secret words “immigrants, shit jobs, nobody wants”

Slavery may be our original sin as a nation, but we’ve spent the years since Appomattox ensuring a continued voiceless and dispossessed servant underclass just as close to slavery as could be managed while pretending we weren’t. The entire issue with immigrants is wholly the product of wealthy people wanting servants, and trucking or luring them in and abusing them to death has been extremely good business for white businessmen, *and* it’s made it easy And politically profitable to posture *against* those same Immigrants and “stand up for the American working man and woman”...who they won’t hire because it’s slave wages and slave treatment. Which is only part of why this involves “jobs nobody wants”: US people won’t take jobs like that unless there’s absolutely no alternative. Even prisoners refuse to do field work given the pay and conditions (when they can, of course).
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This is only partially true. We tried to get Valley Girls to do the harvest in the San Juaquin Valley but they were busy. Up here in the northeast when you go to a hospital there’s a good chance you get a doctor who is an immigrant. Servant class - I don’t think so. Better chance that this immigrant was attracted by some of the world's best education and decided to stay.

JFC. FDR put one of the vanishingly few good immigrant minority groups in internment camps.

Archie Bunker worked and kept his family together.
That's not something you can say about most of the immigrants coming to the States these days.

But broken families, low intelligence, and state dependency are cool because Orange Man Bad, right?

For someone putting himself on a pedestal and looking down at minority immigrants as having "low Intelligence" and "state dependency", I'm wondering where your intelligence is for borrowing someone else's stereotype. Maybe what you really mean is that the quota for idiocy is already full with stupid white boys.

I'll bet your knowledge of FDR is very limited.

 

[h.h.]

More so communists than racists I would say.

Then blame the government. This is just a ruse to cover up our own governments fuck ups.
Trump did not take the threat seriously. It was a inconvenience to him. He tried to pretend it away instead of preparing for it. Shutting down China did nothing to stop it.

The MSM is once again doing his job.

 

[h.h.]

Congratulations. You have graduated from the Archie Bunker school of political correctness and earned your new fashionable stereotype goggles. You will never know the genius of Norman Lear. It was much easier to identify you Archie when you used names like Guinea, Wap, Kraut, Slope, Mick, Lymie, Pommie, Frog, Nigga, Pollak, Kunt etc. You're fuckin brilliant.




This is only partially true. We tried to get Valley Girls to do the harvest in the San Juaquin Valley but they were busy. Up here in the northeast when you go to a hospital there’s a good chance you get a doctor who is an immigrant. Servant class - I don’t think so. Better chance that this immigrant was attracted by some of the world's best education and decided to stay.



For someone putting himself on a pedestal and looking down at minority immigrants as having "low Intelligence" and "state dependency", I'm wondering where your intelligence is for borrowing someone else's stereotype. Maybe what you really mean is that the quota for idiocy is already full with stupid white boys.

I'll bet your knowledge of FDR is very limited.

Archie didn’t excuse his racism by showing you his 401k. He was more of an example of our transforming society. He had his beliefs, yet he was still able to progress past the false notions.

 

[Gry]

Smedley Butler and the 1930s Plot to Overthrow the President

In 1934, a colossal claim reached the American news media: There had been a plot to overthrow President Franklin D. Roosevelt, in favor of a fascist government. Supposedly in the works since 1933, the claims of the conspiracy came from a very conspicuous and reliable source: Major General Smedley Butler, one of the most decorated war heroes of his time. Even more unbelievable were his claims of who was involved in the plot – respected names like Robert Sterling Clark, Grayson M.P. Murphy, and Prescott Bush. While news media at the time mocked Butler’s story, recently discovered archives have revealed the truth behind Major General Butler’s claims. Who was Smedley Butler?

Born in 1881, Major General Smedley Butler was the eldest son of a Quaker family from West Chester, Pennsylvania. Butler came from a line of civil-serviceman: his father, Thomas Butler, was a representative for the state of Pennsylvania in Congress, and his maternal grandfather, Smedley Darlington, was also a Republican congressman.

Butler served in several major world conflicts, including the Spanish-American War, the Philippine-American War, the Boxer Rebellion, and World War I. During his time in service, Butler became known for his bravery and relentless leadership in battle, and he was rewarded with several distinctions, including multiple Medals of Honor, an Army Distinguished Service Medal, the Marine Corps Brevet Medal, and a Navy Distinguished Service Medal.

[Major General Smedley Butler. Image reprinted from Philadelphia’s Organized Crime of the 1920 and 1930s by Anne Margaret Anderson with John J. Binder courtesy of the Library of Congress (pg. 11, Arcadia Publishing, 2014).]

In total, Butler served for 34 years in the Marine Corps, and earned 16 medals for his time in service. He is currently the most decorated Marine veteran of all time. He died in 1940 at the age of 58.

The Business Plot

After leaving the service, Butler held many roles, but became best-known for his activism. Butler’s various accolades made him a household name following World War I, and he was well-known among veteran circles as a champion of veterans’ rights. This included supporting the so-called Bonus Army, a large group of veterans and veteran supporters who lobbied Congress for payments of bonds issued to veterans prior to the war.

This positive public image, and demonstrated ability to rally people under his leadership, were perhaps the reason why Butler was approached by Gerald C. MacGuire and Bob Doyle in 1933. MacGuire, a bond salesman, and Doyle were members of the American Legion, an organization meant to support veteran rights and opportunities.

During their first meeting with Butler, MacGuire and Doyle asked the Major General to speak at a Legion convention in Chicago, claiming they wanted to point out the various problems with the Legion’s leadership. Butler was at first open to this idea, knowing that the Legion had several administrative issues that ultimately compromised veteran benefits.

[Prescott Bush, one of the men implicated in the Business Plot. Public Domain image via Wikimedia Commons.]

However, over subsequent meetings with the two men, Butler quickly began to suspect that something was amiss – during their second meeting, MacGuire showed Butler bank statements amounting to over $100,000 USD (valued at nearly $2 million today), which he hoped Butler would use to bring veteran supporters to the convention. The Major General was stunned: there was very little chance that a group of veterans had been able to gather such a vast amount of funds. Even worse was the speech that MacGuire asked Butler to deliver – a speech which had little to do with veteran affairs, and instead was more critical of President Franklin Delano Roosevelt’s recent move away from the gold standard.

The abandonment of the gold standard was a major sticking point for many high-ranking officials and bankers in the country during 1933. Although there were several recognized issues with money backed by gold (such as dependency on gold production, and short-term price instabilities), many bankers were fearful that their gold-backed loans would not be paid back in full by the President’s new policies.

The departure from the gold standard just added to other concerns about FDR’s policies, particularly his plans to provide subsidizations and jobs for the poor, which businessmen and conservative politicians alike took as an indication of Roosevelt's socialist leanings, or (even worse) a communist. Butler could sense this disgruntlement when he asked to meet with MacGuire’s superior, and found himself speaking with Robert Sterling Clark, an heir to the Singer Sewing fortune. Clark was much more upfront than MacGuire, telling Butler that his real interest was in preserving the gold standard, even claiming that he “had $30 million, and was willing to spend half of the $30 million to save the other half.”

Butler, true to his patriotic form, flatly refused the offer to deliver the speech at the convention in Chicago. After parting ways with MacGuire and Clark, he heard little from the men until MacGuire began travelling through Europe on a trip funded by Clark. MacGuire began sending postcards to Butler from various European locations, including Italy, Germany, and France.

[A portrait of Robert Sterling Clark. Public Domain image via Wikimedia Commons.]

Upon returning to the States, MacGuire called another meeting with Butler, where he was much more transparent about his plans: Admitting that the money he had gathered came mostly from captains of industry, MacGuire told Butler that he had travelled Europe to see how veterans operated within foreign governments. After discounting the governments of Germany and Italy, he described a facet of French government which was run quite well by veterans.

These various observations led MacGuire to believe that the only way to save the country from FDR’s “ill-fated” policies was to create a military state run by former servicemen, with Roosevelt serving as a figurehead, rather than a true leader. Butler asked what MacGuire wanted from him, and was told he would be the ideal leader of these veterans, promising him an army of 500,000 men and financial backing from an assortment of rich businessmen, so long as he would be willing to lead a peaceful march on the White House to displace Roosevelt.

The McCormack-Dickstein Committee Investigation

Astonished by MacGuire’s plans, Butler knew he would need someone to corroborate his story if he was going to stop the intended coup. Having previously worked as the police captain of Philadelphia, Butler reached out to Philadelphia Record writer Paul Comly French, who agreed to meet with MacGuire as well. During this meeting, MacGuire told French that he believed a fascist state was the only answer for America, and that Smedley was the “ideal leader” because he “could organize one million men overnight.”

Armed with French’s mutual testimony, Butler appeared before the McCormack-Dickstein congressional committee, also known as the Special Committee on Un-American Activities, to reveal what he knew about the plot to seize the presidency in November 1934. The committee at first discounted a large part of Butler’s testimony (even writing in their initial report that they saw no reason to subpoena men like John W. Davis, a former presidential hopeful, or Thomas W. Lamont, a partner with J.P. Morgan & Company).

However, with the testimony of French, and the erratic testimony of MacGuire, the committee began to further investigate the plot. The final reports of the committee sang a different tune, finding that all of Butler’s claims could be corroborated as factual. However, they also stressed that the plot was far from being enacted, and it was not clear if the plans would have ever truly come to fruition.

Quickly becoming known as the “White House Coup” and “Wall Street Putsch,” many major news sources derided Butler’s claims, as the committee’s final report was not made available publicly. Those implicated, ranging from the DuPont family to Prescott Bush, the grandfather of future President George W. Bush, laughed off Butler’s claims. Evidence of the validity of Butler’s testimony was not released until the 21st century, when the committee’s papers were published in the Public Domain. No one was ever prosecuted in connection to the plot.

Butler, for his part, went on to continue advocating for veterans. He also became a staunch opponent of capitalism, which he felt fed war efforts. His views were published in his well-known short book War is a Racket, which was published in 1935. There’s no telling how far the plot to overthrow the President may have gone without Butler’s intervention, but one thing is certain: its failure was the work of one patriotic Major General, and his life-long love of democracy.

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[h.h.]

Like, maaaaan. I'm 39, my Dad is dead 17 years now, I have a wife and two kids, and I own a trucking business.

You're a 15 year old with arthritis, espousing ideals - or lack of - that led to the world I have to navigate.

"I have no friends, am a hippie, and hate Trump" isn't a worldview or a personality. It's a last grasp for relevance in a wasted life.

If you had nutted up and started a family, a business, or original thought you might be more than some aging critic, sitting on the sidelines in between cashing SS checks.

Geriatric kids these days.

https://youtu.be/whmzEXywq40

 

[med4u]

Im backing new legislation to prioritize hospital care,space and ventilators...For Trump supporters
Only....dems won't need them as their heads are firmly lodged up their asses

 

[Microbeman]

Like, maaaaan. I'm 39, my Dad is dead 17 years now, I have a wife and two kids, and I own a trucking business.

You're a 15 year old with arthritis, espousing ideals - or lack of - that led to the world I have to navigate.

"I have no friends, am a hippie, and hate Trump" isn't a worldview or a personality. It's a last grasp for relevance in a wasted life.

If you had nutted up and started a family, a business, or original thought you might be more than some aging critic, sitting on the sidelines in between cashing SS checks.

Geriatric kids these days.

Well, that explains it. What were you saying about the 85 IQ?

 

[h.h.]

Well, that explains it. What were you saying about the 85 IQ?

Be nice. He has a truck.

 

[Absolem]

Think he's been feasting on too many lot lizards.

 

[Jellyfish]

Im backing new legislation to prioritize hospital care,space and ventilators...For Trump supporters
Only....dems won't need them as their heads are firmly lodged up their asses

PROOF: Donald Trump himself is on ICMAG!!!

 

[Gypsy Nirvana]

If so - maybe we can help him get something started - in the White House Gardens?

- Unleash Operation Green Capital -

PROOF: Donald Trump himself is on ICMAG!!!

 

[h.h.]

Melania is building a tennis pavilion for the people.

 

[NEW ENGLAND]

If so - maybe we can help him get something started - in the White House Gardens?

- Unleash Operation Green Capital -

I would suggest a mexican landrace just to keep the media happy during those rose garden announcements.