I have not smoked anything with NC genes yet, the seeds come from @elanius and I just test this cross to see what's hidden in those seeds; From what I understood the New Caledonia from ACE seeds are not pure landraces or at least have been worked for generations to get the faster phenotypes possible; As I told @elanius I don't want to have some plants going longer than 12 weeks so he sent me something who should be ready to harvest in the 10/12 weeks range, it is a cross with only 50% New Caledonian genetics coming from the pollen, the mother is a Tropicanna Cherry dominant female, the mix of those very different genetics should make great hybrids.
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Thai weed from Thailand
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its a shame it has come into this thread really ,
it should be debated in the thread of that name ,
anyone with any knowledge of the country would know they were grown in totally different areas , a long way from each other , by people of different ethnicities, who dont do business with each other ,
so the idea of using a waste product on the other is ridiculous and complete folly , made up stories for around the camp fire but not for serious folks who enjoy facts ..
There were many who kept growing , in Lao Cambodia and Burma as well
Also most "thai sticks" from back then was being shipped out of Thailand ,
doesnt mean all thai sticks came from thailand , they have been made in Vietnam , Lao, Thailand , Cambodia , for very long time , Way before Vietnam war , Every family had cannabis growing in there yard for cooking flavoring , thats how sticks came about , they would use them soup / Pho , has similar taste to MSG , many of the stick we got back in day were not thai grown cannabis , It came from surrounding countries also
, You guys need to get Mike Ritter's "Thai Stick" book , all this info in the book , or watch some interviews with on you tube with him .... there are some vids on you tube where they also talk to very old famers , they kept growing , Just like we did when it was illegal ....
Even Howard Marks (Mr Nice, RIP) in his book talked about how weed was bought in Vietnam, packaged as Thai and resold as Thai...
5. The smugglers themselves said it was a myth.
6. No evidence in seizures from that time. Illegal drugs were tested. If opium was present in cannabis at the time the authorites would have shouted from the rooftops; press were all over dangerous cannabis stories.
It is boring at this point and belongs in the other thread anyway.
@hempy
The Haze Whisperer
You guys should do a little research on the history of that region of Asia, Vietnam was over run by the Communist as was Laos, and we all know what happened in Cambodia with Pol Pot.
Thailand was unaffected by this and the Golden triangle, that was controlled by the warlord that was armed and supported by the CIA, this was where a lot of it came from.
Thailand was unaffected by this and the Golden triangle, that was controlled by the warlord that was armed and supported by the CIA, this was where a lot of it came from.
@hempy
The Haze Whisperer
No evidence really, well just in the last two pages of this thread you have both me and Gypsy both post with first-hand experience with them.
I saw them in Australia, Gypsy from in Thailand just because you didn't see them don't mean they never existed. That part of the world has a long history of mixing opium with cannabis.
Gypsies stories are fascinating and I hope he posts more. It isn't evidence of Thai Sticks being dipped in opium and commercially sold. Its someone getting high with friends.
There is no evidence, just anecdotes from Westerners.
I know what you think. My take is that you believed a dealers story. Suggestion is powerful psychologically. Look up placebo.
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@hempy
The Haze Whisperer
No one said it was widely sold I saw them only a handful of times I only got them twice, and they were only around here a short period of time.
Just because you didn't see them don't mean they never existed, Chi13.
If you did see them, would you have bought them and smoked them ?
Just because you didn't see them don't mean they never existed, Chi13.
If you did see them, would you have bought them and smoked them ?
OpenPollenSeeds
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UNODC - Bulletin on Narcotics - 1965 Issue 3 - 001
India
Both ganja and charas came to be most commonly smoked in earthenware or water pipes sometimes mixed with tobacco, datura or opium. Bhang is sometimes smoked and sometimes chewed, but most commonly it is taken as a beverage (as is ganja sometimes) or confectionery. Numerous preparations in combination with various other ingredients exist and go by many different names. The effects produced are believed to be similar, with ganja four or five times as potent as bhang, and charas two or three times as potent as ganja.
Thailand.
The number of narcotic users in Thailand, including Thai (the majority now), Chinese, and hill-tribes people, probably approaches 250,000. Since the abrupt 1959 ban on opium there has been a steady increase in heroin use (mostly among the young who now predominate) although there is still extensive opium use. The heroin is taken by "chasing the dragon" and sometimes by injection, and opium by smoking. Cannabis is widely used in the country, particularly in the north-east by smoking in pipes or cigarettes or adding it to food. It is often in combination with the opiates.
UNODC - Bulletin on Narcotics - 1965 Issue 3 - 001
If one seeks to understand the use and abuse of mind altering drugs in a given culture or society, it is desirable to view the phenomenon within the broadest possible context, a context which will reveal the roles played by a particular drug, the inter-relationship with the use of other drugs...www.unodc.org
In the following documentary, they show people smoking Opium that they mixed with some kind of tobacco like plant and smoke it into a (bamboo) pipe.
yea and theyre chugging frikking half grams in those pipes , losing half of it too the heat
no way of hiding half a gram of opium between ur bud
lmao
In what post from Gypsy did you see proof of this myth? He told us about a man mixing weed, opium and aspirin in a pipe, that's not the same thing at all, you might have seen this once made by a crazy westener who had no idea what he was doing because dipping flowers in opium is a stupid idea from a practical point of view. It has to be the most messy stuff to work with for sure and a terrible waste of the opium.
I was friend with a young guy from Thailand when I was just starting to smoke joints and he always told us there was no cannabis or hashish mixed with opium sold together in the region he grew in where a lot of cannabis was grown, he also said the black bombay supposedly hash and opium was myth as well, he was from thailand so I think his word has more value on this subject than those of an australian who never visited Thailand;Some mix both together to consume them but only in the pipe just before smoking it and certainly not dipping the buds directly in opium to sell the mix.
But enough with this nonsense, that's just stories for stoners.
What a lousy response, it was a rthorical question who needed no answer because you won't find a post from Gypsy proving you absurd tale;
@hempy
The Haze Whisperer
At the same time period of the opiumated Thai sticks here you could score opium that was brown that was dry and looked similar to hash that you could smoke like hash, so I don't know what era you grew up in but in my era opium and heroin was everywhere as was imported hash and cannabis.
You need to learn a bitt of his history yourself, the communist guerilla was financed through illicit drugs trade like it is still done today. The money sent by the Soviets was not enough to cover all the expenses so the fighters had to rely on drugs traficking.
Exactly like they did in south america in the 70/80's.
@hempy
The Haze Whisperer
Get a grip Kro your bully boy tactics are getting old I am not here for your amusement I am happy to interact with you but not when you're being rude or abrasive or is that just your normal side ?
Here you go next time find it yourself.
It just proves what we have told you, it has never been a big market but only a strange item made spefically on demand for stupid people who had no idea what they were doing.
And you playing the victim where you're the one bullying first is extremely annoying. You're always belittling people for whatever reason and have the nerve to play the victim, that's rich.
@hempy
The Haze Whisperer
No people like you claim it was a fantasy, I have never said it was a widespread commercial product, I said I only saw them over a few years a handful of times.
If people look back at the time period I have posted, It lines up exactly to that of Gypsy experience.
Who exactly are you calling stupid people, me Gypsy ?
Most of the people I grew up with tried them, are they stupid too lol
If people look back at the time period I have posted, It lines up exactly to that of Gypsy experience.
Who exactly are you calling stupid people, me Gypsy ?
Most of the people I grew up with tried them, are they stupid too lol
Do you have any idea how guerillas are financed? Drug traficking is the first source of founding those types of operations, read some history books if you want to learn about this. Asian communists would sell anything they could to get money for their weapons as the guerirellos did in south america, all this is well documented
