Thai weed from Thailand

[Elmer Bud]

No evidence in seizures from that time. Illegal drugs were tested. If opium was present in cannabis at the time the authorites would have shouted from the rooftops; press were all over dangerous cannabis stories.

Authorities don`t catch everything do they ?
And local cops would not be testing the weed .

They sent me to court for a quantity of a GLM [green leafy material suspected to be cannabis sativa ] .
I made them lab test it to prove it was weed . My lawyer said make them test it . Things often go missing at the testing facility . LOL .

 

[kro-magnon]

The one on the left must be her layer, she's got this as she lives in a democracy not a communist country.

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Stop this nonsense, I never said it was a democracy but they don't have a state planified economy like a traditional communist country had, you can understand that or not?
In fact I realize you have no idea how communists countries were functioning, you're not able to separate the political and the economical aspects of this doctrine. Modern communists countries are just dictatures with the communist name but their economy is fueled by capitalism.

 

[Donald Mallard]

see from 34 minutes into that video,
these guys were both there at the time smuggling huge loads , or being the mediator ,
and did over 1000 hours of interviews with smugglers , growers , smokers , etc
and found the opiated thai stick export theory to be completely made up ..

No one can show any , all we have is half digested and spat out reports of folks who generally have not even been to thailand ,
maybe they had some opium on their weed , it wasnt exported from thailand like that though on thai sticks ,
it would be insane to put opium on the best weed around when doing so negated the affect of the weed ,
u may as well use tobacco , or leaf , it would be just stupid to use the best weed around then not even feel anything from the weed because its been overpowered by the affect of opium ...
i mean why even argue about it when most information or facts we can find say it never happened ,
i spoke with sam skunkman too , who said he was there in the 70s ,
he asked the locals , who said nope its an urban myth ...

if someone sets up a commercial operation , like to coat opium onto thai sticks , they dont just do a few kilos , and then select where that goes ,
they do lots and lots of the stuff because it takes work to set up stuff like that ,
its not even feasible since the opium was off in northern thailand , and the sticks were in north east thailand ,
theres a long way to carry the tonnes of sticks , or opium ,
oh and then not charge for it , hahaha
thats not the thai way im afraid ....
they do work , they add stuff to a product , they transport across the country , u will pay for it i assure you ...

 

[Donald Mallard]

Don't mean to be 'that guy' maybe I shoulda said 'real' hazes.

I just don't think Arjan's stuff is worth talking about, pretty sure its exactly what we don't want in Thailand but that's the business.... He is great with promotion, business and media stuff.
I personally have never grown any greenhouse stock, I tried some stuff in Amsterdam years ago.
His reputation is enough to make me not want any of his stuff these days.

Though you're review is making me doubt myself hahaha!

But there's a million other people doing much better work with hazes that actually go above X-weeks which is why I brough up haze due to their daylight cycle.
E.g. Mahakala, Madmac, Wally.

Dont wanna start that conversation on this thread too much...

i think there would certainly be a market for it ,
since the climate is great for growing those types ,

one could get them to look close enough to what folks regard as modern looking weed ,
and also impress older folks who want a sativa type of weed with a punch to it ..

 

[Elmer Bud]

Transcription of the video 35 .55 .
RE Opium Thai sticks .

Mike Ritter - " No !
I`m not saying it didn`t happen , that some body didn`t try that . "

Let me explain what I am talking about one more time . For those who see opiated Thai stick and post without reading the details .
Not actually adding opium . Collecting alkaloids from the boiling of opium and infusing these to the weed .
The morphine extracted from opium is 10 % of the volume . So there is a lot of bi product .

Produced on a small scale for a niche market is my hypothesis .

 

[Donald Mallard]

Transcription of the video 35 .55 .
RE Opium Thai sticks .


Let me explain what I am talking about one more time . For those who see opiated Thai stick and post without reading the details .
Not actually adding opium . Collecting alkaloids from the boiling of opium and infusing these to the weed .

this is the theory dj short mentions ,
sounds great ,
but as most say , why do it even ??

plus as mentioned by the guys and others ,
who would move that water , or the sticks from over far north thailand , to north east ,
its quite a distance we are talking about ,
then , not charge for the effort ,
i ve asked , the price of the sticks were the same apparently ,
so they did all that work , and never even charged for it ,
what nice folks ....

My coauthor and I conducted close to 1000 hours of interviews in Thailand, Cambodia, and the US and found no evidence of the "opiated Thai Stick." One otherwise credible source claimed that some Thai had an "opium tincture" sprinkled on it. Although the source was a major early player who caught the first "Golden Voice" that was shipped via APO to Oahu, his time in Asia was limited, and he was mistaken. The fact that this myth persists is testimony to how strong Thai Stick were.

 

[Elmer Bud]

This is the kind of weed that I had my 1st smoking experiences with .
On another level to the home grown generally . Although maybe nce a year I could score some locally grown stuff that was on par . It was never the steady consistant supply like the surfer hippies on the coast used to have .

 

[Elmer Bud]

plus as mentioned by the guys and others ,
who would move that water , or the sticks from over far north thailand , to north east ,
its quite a distance we are talking about ,
then , not charge for the effort ,
i ve asked , the price of the sticks were the same apparently ,
so they did all that work , and never even charged for it ,
what nice folks ....

Think about this ?
Another group decided to make Thai sticks too !!

CIA and Air America is another rabbit hole .

Thai sticks weren`t just the best weed . They fetched the best prices too !

 

[Donald Mallard]

Yep in the world of what ifs anything is a goer I guess.

 

[sativanese]

This is the kind of weed that I had my 1st smoking experiences with .
On another level to the home grown generally . Although maybe nce a year I could score some locally grown stuff that was on par . It was never the steady consistant supply like the surfer hippies on the coast used to have .

Looks very similar to what i was getting early on.
That in Thailand or down under?
Don't think its as popular as it once was, not as open anyway.

Got to agree with a couple guys here.
I couldn't imagine paying people to dip sticks by the shipload.
As for hanging sticks over or under or whatever people say with whole opium / morphine processes.
Or mixing yeah, it probably did in very small amounts, or as gypsy said by request.
But it just doesn't seem economically viable due to the size of volume.

 

[Elmer Bud]

Looks very similar to what i was getting early on.
That in Thailand or down under?

In Australia .
Could be from anywhere in SE Asia . I remember seeing Philippines weed that was that gold colours as well .

 

[wutwut]

i actually found an opium thai stick in the northeast a week ago. i didn't want to try it because i'm against opioids, but i also thought if it was made from that prem cbd stuff, because there were other fancy "thai sticks" available at this pharmacy. like vanilla or herb flavor in example. probably spiked with weird chinese chemicals. maybe it was a ploy to sell off the stock.

i'm so tired of trying these "landraces" anymore. some dispensaries sell it as minimum 10g so it's a waste of money.

also, they sell opium weed in laos..

 

[sativanese]

@wutwut Did you see any cool farms?

 

[kro-magnon]

see from 34 minutes into that video,
these guys were both there at the time smuggling huge loads , or being the mediator ,
and did over 1000 hours of interviews with smugglers , growers , smokers , etc
and found the opiated thai stick export theory to be completely made up ..

No one can show any , all we have is half digested and spat out reports of folks who generally have not even been to thailand ,
maybe they had some opium on their weed , it wasnt exported from thailand like that though on thai sticks ,
it would be insane to put opium on the best weed around when doing so negated the affect of the weed ,
u may as well use tobacco , or leaf , it would be just stupid to use the best weed around then not even feel anything from the weed because its been overpowered by the affect of opium ...
i mean why even argue about it when most information or facts we can find say it never happened ,
i spoke with sam skunkman too , who said he was there in the 70s ,
he asked the locals , who said nope its an urban myth ...

if someone sets up a commercial operation , like to coat opium onto thai sticks , they dont just do a few kilos , and then select where that goes ,
they do lots and lots of the stuff because it takes work to set up stuff like that ,
its not even feasible since the opium was off in northern thailand , and the sticks were in north east thailand ,
theres a long way to carry the tonnes of sticks , or opium ,
oh and then not charge for it , hahaha
thats not the thai way im afraid ....
they do work , they add stuff to a product , they transport across the country , u will pay for it i assure you ...

It's interesting to hear him saying he would pass out after smoking a few tokes on a thai weed joint, that's not the effect you would expect from such sativa. It happened to me a few times to fall asleep after having smoked some extremely strong sativa from somewhere in east asia and also some done indoor in Europe, specially in Amsterdam where I would buy their long flowering haze because it's not something I grow often so I like to smoke some when I can and a few of them had an extreme narcotic effect on me instead of the boost of energy I was expecting from those flowers. I had to lay down in my hotel room more than once during my trips to Dam
I wonder why I react this way sometimes and other times it will act like too much cafeine in my system and makes jittery, those effects are polar opposite but can come from the same buds, strange.

 

[Donald Mallard]

i actually found an opium thai stick in the northeast a week ago. i didn't want to try it because i'm against opioids, but i also thought if it was made from that prem cbd stuff, because there were other fancy "thai sticks" available at this pharmacy. like vanilla or herb flavor in example. probably spiked with weird chinese chemicals. maybe it was a ploy to sell off the stock.

i'm so tired of trying these "landraces" anymore. some dispensaries sell it as minimum 10g so it's a waste of money.

also, they sell opium weed in laos..

opium omelettes too , and milkshakes ,
pass ,, lol ...
i dont mind the odd stimulant or psychedelic ,
but not a huge fan of opiates in any way shape or form ..

 

[Gypsy Nirvana]

Same here Wal - was pure exotic fun back then 40+ years ago - discovering opium - but not a life long thing for me - opiates can be good for serious pain - and traditionally the elders in the Hill Tribe Communities would be seen puff'in on pipes of opium - as a form of local pain killing medicine -

 

[FTL]

Same here Wal - was pure exotic fun back then 40+ years ago - discovering opium - but not a life long thing for me - opiates can be good for serious pain - and traditionally the elders in the Hill Tribe Communities would be seen puff'in on pipes of opium - as a form of local pain killing medicine -
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Can smell those Frangipanis from here mate ... lovely

 

[Gypsy Nirvana]

Can smell those Frangipanis from here mate ... lovely

They are rather gorgeous - I think that picture was taken on Koh Lanta - around the Pimalai Resort - the scent of those Frangipani flowers - is something I find difficult to explain - it's so good

 

[Rgd]

I have never seen any pics of purple Thai sticks, didnt know that it existed

we had durban stick up here once..lovely grown sticky no stick “sticks”...gave sedated buzz..pass

we had Buddha stick too..larger sloppier ...half the potency of Thai stick..the stick it was attached to was pretty large too..

but all that stuff was rare up here in hash country

one of the bestthai sticks we had was apparently tied by a gringo who would go down to the Yucatan

the first [real] thai sticks we got were the best..

and there was one batch that made me drunk..

we go so little weed up here in the 70’s except for baled Colombian

after the 80’s hit everything imported went away and it was homegrown sinsi..and the odd lambs bread

 

[Genghis Kush.]

Durban Poison sticks are listed in the 1974 Cape Town market report.

Thats the earliest reference to the name Durban Poison in print that I have found.

Buddha sticks are listed in 1976 Bangkok market report as more expensive than the thai stick.
maybe because they were bigger?