dried or fresh bud to make brick? How to store them ?
Today brick in thailand not good can't find smell like to the old day.
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Thai weed from Thailand
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Today brick in thailand not good can't find smell like to the old day.
what smell makhong classic branch? all plant is same smell ?
it so beuatiful.
yea it will still be around funky ,
probably in Laos ,, the same or similar ,
the bricks are just mass produced , sometimes early harvested etc ,
little care is taken with it , and yet the odd one is quite good , but they do vary from what i noted ...
some gunja farmers moved across the border when the eradication program was in action ,
im sure gypsy mentioned that in one of his seed collecting missions to laos , or i think he got the thai stick on the border at nong khai either way one of the suppliers mentioned this at the time ...
with some of those seeds , and growing them in the north east isaan area of thailand around udonthani or one of the close provinces ,, with a little selection , im fairly sure we could come up with something close enough to the original thai stick weed ...
the brown thai wasnt the best ,
it was the golden stuff not on sticks for sure ,
this has been documented by several folks , and i can testify to it too ...
Beautiful plants bro! Palabra.
I'm sure that compress the buds
It is a rarely used practice these days
here we are already very influenced by the American cultivation culture
all new growers talk about terpenes, flavors, and medical grade herbs so a lot has changed here
A example of pure Oaxacan buds from the Mountains
No more compressed style
Beautiful What smell of Oaxacan ? I don't have any experience with Oaxacan. pls give me some. I tried to find information about oaxacan very interserting. and found "kind bud " what does it mean ?
funkyhorse
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This is how it is done in Pedro Juan Caballero, Paraguay
I think this method in the 21st century with the technology available today is obsolote, vacuum bags are much better. I am thinking on investing in a decent vacuum sealing machine
They dry the flowers like this. Weather is humid, I dont think it is easy to get it dry ready to jar or bag
Then the best quality is manually sifted removing bad parts and sticks
And then processed to make bricks
In Paraguay and South America weed is illegal
So bricks with the same packaging as Wally´s brick with nylon and masking tape are hidden buried under the living soil. This makes fermentation. It is not something they want or care about, it is not made on purpose, fermentation is a by product of transport and hiding weed buried
I think so too. There is no breeding with pure sativas in the tropics. The little pure sativas breeding was done and kept in Europe and bred in tiny little 0,5 lt or 1 lt pots and selected for adaptability to these conditions and fast flowering times.
The problem is this: from what we have seen in the past and it is documented in the forums, the breeders doing the work dont get any reward. Basically in a market like Asia everybody will try copying
Another thing is if there is a market for this kind of weed. Growers report customers dont want landraces but hybrids from Europe. Basically what the customers know.
It is like going to a thai island and wanting to stay all day in the bungalow with aircon and cable tv. Basically tourists want the same things they know from home
So if anybody will do breeding work, is just for the love of the plant. Prices dont give any premium to top quality psychedelic or very high psychoactive weed. Hybrid low psychoactive weed or 30 min high weed is what the market wants with a lot of weird smells like chocolate vanilla or strawberry
I didnt smoke thai stick of old, I dont know but from the reports it seems it was fermented during transportation.
When I was buying weed I didnt care about anything but the high. I didnt care for smells nor maturity. And back then I could not know if bud is mature or not
The difference in the quality of the different batches of brick was such that it is not surprising at all to know today a lot of that brick wasnt mature bud
And because the brick bud wasnt mature like some paraguayan brick bud, it is why the seed it carries is more valuable than the bud. If you grow it properly you will get better quality bud than the brick
Can you get the buds unpressed? I see a lot of leaf in this brick.
If I would be in Thailand I would be doing the same you do Khun weedebook
Are you in dry season or rainy wet season?
Where I live it is all year round wet season. So if I have dry bud I want to ferment, I just leave it outside in the garden 24 hours or less and is wet again
I didnt find difference in the high fermented or not but you never know until you try.
I would cut the brick in half. Vacuum cure half dry and the other half ferment by wetting it outdoors if you are in rainy season and check in 3-6 months which one you like better
In Bangkok I met people keeping their brick in the fridge for freshness
The plants from Prempavee are sexing or having little buds
The faster one is Phu Phan. I only have 2 Mekhong Classic with pistils and very few. I can only get an idea of the smells when the buds are maturing. Now I only smell chlorophyll
The weather in June is a lot better than May.
I am having again 25C every day and a lot of humidity and while thai weed is humid resistent, it is not inmune to botrytis
This season I tried wettable sulphur. I sprayed twice with 2 weeks difference in veg. Inside and outside the greenhouse
It simply killed powdery mildew(PM). Very impressive
N Thai girl 8 P1 last season had PM and a few other plants.
This year no PM at all. I am trying the N thai P2 without any spray to check
This is N Thai 8 P1 with 11 months cure, I have a few grams left
Leaf stays same green colour, what colour are is bud curing?
What colour is this?
Because of the low temperatures, there were no bugs
But now with the higher temperatures bugs are coming back to life
And this is the same N thai 8 P1 from this year
Yesterday a branch broke. This year no PM. The buds are more sticky than last year
But it is suffering from botrytis and I have no solution for this
The progeny of girl 8 outcrossed to the equatorial male(male 2) made botrytis too. It is the same selection as the boy, so I am not sure if I should use him, if I had many males I would discard him if I want seed for my environment.
It is not for this humid wet environment, but this weed in dry season should be very decent
So this year I will make very little seed if at all
N Thai 8 P1
Edit: I forgot to add
While handling these buds from N Thai 8 I got a lot of resin in my hands
Then I handled without realizing the stem from the part affected with botrytis and to my surprise it washed all my resin from my hand. Much better than isopropyl alcohol. It seems fungus affects quality of the resins
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Are you in dry season or rainy wet season?
Rain season
I didnt find difference in the high fermented or not but you never know until you try.
i think it enhanced. i try it by myself at the same time same bud with thai landrace. smell have change to chocolate and headache effect is gone and the high are not like jar cure. i find smell like the old day but never find it today. Why? This year i'll try with phonswan it effect similar to the old day.
I would cut the brick in half. Vacuum cure half dry and the other half ferment by wetting it outdoors if you are in rainy season and check in 3-6 months which one you like better
In Bangkok I met people keeping their brick in the fridge for freshness
i 'll try it with put in the jar Boveda and fridge
in the old day i got golden bud and yellow leaf with orange hair she come from trat province in thailand.The flowers were still fresh when they arrived and smell like wild mango and tangerine maybe you call it golden budda what effect of golden budda? In my home town we call "เนื้อทอง" the effect is so good. but can't find it anymore
Good day bro
Well Oaxaca its a state of México
Full of Mountains and valleys
A really good spot for grow weed
Used to be many different strains over there
But slighly was Lost the genetics because the hybrization.
Fortunately still some isolated areas where the traditional farmers still growing the old pure Oaxacan sativas.
Usually the smell on many Oaxaca strains are like: pine, mentol and quite citric
But this one smell mainly pinneapple scent
Hasch
learning and laughing
Looking really good this narrow leaved plant
Nexus7
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Unfortunately I never got to taste those thai sticks of olds ... but do have a friend I hold in high regard who suggested the stuff that turns brown shortly after harvest is what we should be looking for ...
Actually TomHill mentions the same thing too!
I try phonswan local famer bud with malawi cob style seal and store her at 32-36C After 2 days she became more sticky. and smell change to the old day a little bit. smooth to smoke. effect is more deep from before.Thank you all If you have any suggestions, please tell me.
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Nexus7
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Thanks Wal for your input ...
You did mention your thoughts or gold vs. brown thai weed earlier! We didn't forget!
But feel free to let people post opinions on the matter which don't always align with yours
funkyhorse
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I find these comments about weed colour very interesting and it is not easy to keep it cool when someone comments or posts something that dont match your real life experience
Well, if it doesnt match your life experience it doesnt mean it cannot possibly be like that
I never looked at colour cure as a pattern for quality. I only knew if it was good when smoked
Some things smell lovely but they dont have a good high.
I also think colour cure and terpenes will be affected by the type of cure you do
These are pictures taken now from 11 month old buds kept in jars
I dont think jars are the best cure at all and I cant believe they are so popular. But I must admit if you are after terpenes, jars keep the terpenes best from the methods I tried
Northern Thailand 2008 P1 girl 3 equatorial pheno 11 months cure in jar
To me it looks green
Laos from Wally cures brown after 11 months in the jar, this is whats left.
With vacuum bag cure it should be good for years
I like this one better than N Thailand equatorial phenos and a little less than N Thai 08 tropical phenos
I prefer this thai weed over any hybrid
This type of weed have long cure. Even kept in jars in a humid environment, left at room temperature they are getting at their peak after 6 months cure and good for at least a year
This is the kind of weed I am interested in, you cant find this long cure in hybrids unless they are pure F1 sativa hybrids which are non existent in this canna world unless you make it yourself
Please feel free to post or comment about patterns you find for quality in weed be it colour cure or whatever
I am particularly interested in creeper weed, I cannot believe they were bred out of this world.
If you have found patterns to recognize creeper weed, please let me know
This year weather very difficult for the girls but they are all hanging there
I am simply amazed I am harvesting buds quality buds with this weather. Very humid cloudy days without sun. Some days reaching 15C maximum. It seems I am in a border zone for sativas and it depends on the year for better harvests. The better years are La Niña year and it is forecasted again for next summer so next year hopefully I will have a better grow with more sun and less rain
N Thai 08 P1
It is a lot but a lot of trimming work, no wonder these sativas are not very popular among growers
This is a Mekhong Classic just sexing
It is split in 2, I think this happens because of bugs
One of the split branches is growing pistils and the other is growing male balls
And this is the Mekhong Classic pollen producer at the male greenhouse
More plants are just sexing so this year I doubt I will get much mature flower to test, hopefully at best I will make a few seed and this is not sure yet
Top branch
Bottom branches Mekhong Classic pollen producer, they are doing very well against the local fauna
Have a nice week everyone
Well, if it doesnt match your life experience it doesnt mean it cannot possibly be like that
I never looked at colour cure as a pattern for quality. I only knew if it was good when smoked
Some things smell lovely but they dont have a good high.
I also think colour cure and terpenes will be affected by the type of cure you do
These are pictures taken now from 11 month old buds kept in jars
I dont think jars are the best cure at all and I cant believe they are so popular. But I must admit if you are after terpenes, jars keep the terpenes best from the methods I tried
Northern Thailand 2008 P1 girl 3 equatorial pheno 11 months cure in jar
To me it looks green
Laos from Wally cures brown after 11 months in the jar, this is whats left.
With vacuum bag cure it should be good for years
I like this one better than N Thailand equatorial phenos and a little less than N Thai 08 tropical phenos
I prefer this thai weed over any hybrid
This type of weed have long cure. Even kept in jars in a humid environment, left at room temperature they are getting at their peak after 6 months cure and good for at least a year
This is the kind of weed I am interested in, you cant find this long cure in hybrids unless they are pure F1 sativa hybrids which are non existent in this canna world unless you make it yourself
Please feel free to post or comment about patterns you find for quality in weed be it colour cure or whatever
I am particularly interested in creeper weed, I cannot believe they were bred out of this world.
If you have found patterns to recognize creeper weed, please let me know
This year weather very difficult for the girls but they are all hanging there
I am simply amazed I am harvesting buds quality buds with this weather. Very humid cloudy days without sun. Some days reaching 15C maximum. It seems I am in a border zone for sativas and it depends on the year for better harvests. The better years are La Niña year and it is forecasted again for next summer so next year hopefully I will have a better grow with more sun and less rain
N Thai 08 P1
It is a lot but a lot of trimming work, no wonder these sativas are not very popular among growers
This is a Mekhong Classic just sexing
It is split in 2, I think this happens because of bugs
One of the split branches is growing pistils and the other is growing male balls
And this is the Mekhong Classic pollen producer at the male greenhouse
More plants are just sexing so this year I doubt I will get much mature flower to test, hopefully at best I will make a few seed and this is not sure yet
Top branch
Bottom branches Mekhong Classic pollen producer, they are doing very well against the local fauna
Have a nice week everyone
