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Terra Preta - Dark Soil - Experiment

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Here is a post I made elsewhere at ICmag about making pyrolyzed rice hulls.

HTH

Making and using carbonized (as pyrolyzed) rice hulls:

Pyrolyzing is much preferred method to make bio-char. Traditionally Terra Preta was house hold wastes, food wastes, night soil, etc. One can make them at home! They are the ultimate biochar (terra pretta) IMO, easy to make, easy to find/buy, great soil/media amendment and environmentally sound too!


Here is how to make pyrolyzed bio-char on a DIY basis with a "retrot stove":
By Folke Günther
http://www.holon.se/folke/carbon/simplechar/simplechar.shtml


Folke Günther's Biochar blog:
http://folkegunther.blogspot.com/


See this study abstract about PRH (pyrolyzed rich hulls):

Pyrolyzed rich hulls are as good/better than amendments like pumic, Axis, Turface, etc. Pyroylzed rice hulls have high C:N ratio its wise to pre-soak the pyrolyzed rich hulls (or most any high carbon bio-char) in a solution of water and hydrolyzed fish (to lower C:N and C:p ratio) and humic acid (to increase CEC of PRH).

Kämpf, A.N. and Jung, M. 1991.

THE USE OF CARBONIZED RICE HULLS AS AN HORTICULTURAL SUBSTRATE. Acta Hort. (ISHS) 294:271-284
http://www.actahort.org/books/294/294_29.htm

Abstract:

Rice hulls are mentioned in the technical literature as an ingredient for potting media (POOLE & WATERS, 1977) or as an alternative substrate for soilless culture (NAMIOKA, 1977), Carbonized rice hulls have been used for several years by some commercial flower growers in Brazil as a substrate for rooting cuttings of roses and chrysanthemuns stocks. Due its good drainage and high permeability this material is specially adequated to be used as rooting medium under intermitent mist.

Rice hulls are an easy available industrial residue (about 1,01 thousand tons/year) in Rio Grande do Sul, Brazil. After the carbonization process rice hulls have a near neutral pH (7,5 in H2O), in low bulk density (about 220 g/l), more than 50% dry matter, a high total porosity, with a air: water ratio near 3:1 at container capacity and a low volume of water in micropores (9% water held at 100 cm water tension).

The purpose of this study was to test mixtures of carbonized rice hulls and peat ("Aguas Claras", Viamão/RS-Brazil) as potting media.



P.S., That paper on CRH uses a term "micropore", I define what that means below:


"Micropores" are pores between media particles and pores comprising media particles which are the size of < 10-0.2 microns, the water tension is 30-1,500 kPa. This is termed "buffer water" (BW) and can be used by plants but it's harder for roots to use BW than AW (see below). Protozoa prefer micropore sized pores to graze and feed upon bacteria; protozoa prefer about 9.7-2 micron pore sizes. Bacteria tends to prefer pores from 2-0.75 microns, those pores are termed "protection pores" because protozoa can't eat bacteria colonizing in pores less than 2 microns.

"Mesopores" hold water plants can use water (i.e. "available water"; AW) from pore size of 416-10 microns and water pressure of 1-30 kPa. Plants and soil food webs can use the water held in these pores.

"Ultramicopores" are smaller than 0.2 microns and are considered to hold "unavailable water" (UW) which roots, bacteria, microfauna (protozoa) and mesofauna (nematodes) can not use; only microfungi (microbes which are fungi) can use water in pores < 0.2 micron AFAIK. Ultramicropores have a water tension of greater than 1,500 kPa (1.5 MPa) which is also known as the "Persistent Wilting Point" of plants. In one good study on arid/desert soils fungi are dominant in soil food web even with water tension as high as 6,000-8,000 kPa!!! (Wow!)


HTH, sorry to get so technical but these are important issues to understand when building an ideal soilless media for roots AND soil food web.


More references:

1. Simone E. Kolb, Kevin J. Fermanich and Mathew E. Dornbush. 2009
Effect of Charcoal Quantity on Microbial Biomass and Activity in Temperate Soils. Soil Sci Soc Am J.2009; 73: 1173-1181 http://soil.scijournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/73/4/1173
2. Warnock, D.D., Lehmann, J., Kuyper, T.W. and Rillig, M.C. 2007.
Mycorrhizal responses to biochar in soil – concepts and mechanisms. Plant and Soil 300, 9-20.
3. Nichols, K. 2002.
Glomalin: Hiding Place for a Third of the World's Stored Soil Carbon. Agricultural Research: 50(9): 4-7​
4. Nichols, K.A. 2008.
Indirect Contributions of AM Fungi and Soil Aggregation to Plant Growth and Protection. IN: Siddiqui, Z.A., Akhtar, M.S., Futai, K. (eds.) Mycorrhizae: Sustainable Agriculture and Forestry. Spinger Science. pp. 177-194.​
5. Nichols, K.A. 2008.
Microbial engineering to enhance your bottom line. Meeting Proceedings for the 12th Annual No-Till on the Plains Winter Workshop, Salina, KS, Jan. 29-30. pp. 138-139.
6. Liang, B. , Lehmann, J., Solomon, D., Kinyangi, J., Grossman, J., O'Neill, B., Skjemstad, J.O., Thies, J., Luizão, F.J., Petersen, J. and Neves, E.G. 2006.
Black carbon increases cation exchange capacity in soils. Soil Science Society of America Journal 70: 1719-1730​
7. Steiner, C., Teixeira, W. G., Lehmann J., Nehls, T., Vasconcelos de Macêdo, J. L.V., Blum, W. E. H. and Zech, W. 2007.
Long term effects of manure, charcoal and mineral fertilization on crop production and fertility on a highly weathered Central Amazonian upland soil. Plant and Soil. 291, 275-290.​
8. Steiner, Christoph, K.C. Das, M. Garcia, B Forster, and Wolfgang Zech, 2007.
Charcoal and smoke extract stimulate the soil microbial community in a highly weathered Xanthic Ferralsol. Pedobiologia In press.​
9. Woods, William I., Newton P. S. Falcão, and Wenceslau G. Teixeira. 2006.
Biochar Trials aim to enrich soil for smallholders. Nature 443:144.​
10. Woolf, Dominic, 2008
Biochar as a Soil Amendment - A review of the Environmental Implications. Swansea University.​
11. Yaman, S, 2004.
Pyrolysis of biomass to produce fuels and chemical feedstocks. Energy Conversion and Management 45, 651-671.​
 
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For sho'! Tho the physical properties (e.g., pores sizes) will be different, but I would still go for it.
 

Flying Goat

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Um... 'Scuse me, but down here in Bama we dig a shallow trench, fill with branches (pecan usually), cover with swamp willow to keep from smothering completely, than we cover with soil or garden turf. Poke a couple small holes 1/2" in so it can breathe the tiniest bit. After 3 days, voila! Instant charcoal.

Learned that from farmers in East Thailand, where they must make their own charcoal in order to cook.
 
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Hey,

yea that's the traditional method to make Trera Preta too (pretty much) and it works but it's inferior to pyrolyzed bio-char in terms of carbon retained and Co2 emitted, etc., along with ease and less environmental impact. A major log-jam for bio-char is the argument for how much Co2 is emitted just to make it; that is why I suggest pyrolyzed. A Kiwi has come up with a method to microwave OM into bio-char in huge microwaves, very 'clean' if used off of solar power (or other renewable resource); neat stuff.

Soaking bio-char (and especially charcoal) in N (and P) rich water solution is very good because it lowers the C:N ratio of the biochar and if using hydrolyzed fish adds important oils, fats and proteins to the biochar too (fungi like that).

Also, to make really good bio-char the use of manure, shredded food waste, night soil, etc., along with branches is a good idea; the resulting bio-char is better than from branches (usually). IIRC traditionally Terra Preta was a mix of wood, food stuffs (as kitchen waste; meat and veggies, etc), manures, night soil, etc.

HTH
 

Flying Goat

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Actually, the Thai use home-built mud ovens & seal them with mud once the fire's going...

I wish I were strong enuf to builf my own little mud oven, much like the Taos indians/Thai so I could cook my artisanal organic breads up top, whilst making charcoal down below...
 
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Thai? I was referring to the Amazon basin peoples. But organic breads sound good, hmmm, I'm hungry now, ha. Do you soak your charcoal before adding to soil or media?
 

Clackamas Coot

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secondtry

My new ceramic smoker arrived yesterday. I'll be firing it up to char up some rice hulls this weekend. Should be fun.

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Clackamas Coot

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Trichgnomes

Grill Dome sells their smokers direct.

They're based near Atlanta, Georgia and even with shipping charges, their smokers were about 35% less than the most popular kamado smokers, i.e. The Big Green Egg

Check out their accessories for baking bread, pizza, etc. You can easily hit 1,000F so for getting steaks to taste they do in the high-end steak restaurants (Mortons for example), these are outstanding.

Holding low temps (around 220F) for 20+ hours when smoking pork shoulders, beef brisket, etc. is a snap.

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s13sr20det

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i kept thinking about this last night while watching the bone black episode of dirty jobs...
 

mad librettist

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Hey this thread doesn't come up in a search...

I just got some cowboy charcoal for my worm bin. No way I can DIY this year.

So I'm gonna soak it in just fish hydrolysate? Do I dry it after? Would EM be a bad idea (thinking yes)?
 

DARC MIND

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ive been just throwing it in the worm bin. crushed into dust first
i also let some chunks sit in my ACT brewer when its running
i get my char for free from all the burnt trees here in cali, making the best of the fires..i will also be planting tree's with forestaid this march
 

goldking

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I just bought 8qts of HORTICULUAL CHARCOAL from fred myers garden supply section, its just small wood chips, about 1/4"-3/8"

its pure burnt wood like the coyboy charcoal except its allready in tiny pieces.

i did find slighty burnt pieces of tongue and groove plywood in my cowboy charcoal, but only once in 2 bags it does not break up either. its just construction scrap, so toss it.

i compared the price of the Horticultural charcoal to what i buy from Ebay and with the shipping its about the same..

if your in the 48 states where shipping is affordable, the VEEGRO BioChar from EBay is the way to go..try it.

11liters for $12

i use the smaller chunks of cowboy charcoal for drain stones in the bottom of my pots..

i sift them out in a plastic shopping basket and recycle them after harvest.

I Know the charcoal is a benifit, it seems to keep everything clean and healthy.

Organic lovers< ebay has Texas Worm castings, beautiful dry sifted poop, 20lbs shipped for only $20.

and to me it was sent USPS Priority flatrate for $20 total :)

it,s a good thing Obama only squandered $30Billion on global warming, if he spent more all the states would be experiancing the coldest deepest snowy weather in history+- lol

another 20lbs of worm poop i got elsewhere was big gooey chunks of who knows what? stay warm GK
 

mad librettist

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excuse me global warming? what? you mean anthropogenic climate change? what's with the flame bait after a great post? I feel a very strong urge to point out that only someone willfully ignorant could possibly believe a cold snowy winter in north america disproves the scientific consensus on this matter. Two words: El Niño.

And please, no politics.
 

h.h.

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ive been just throwing it in the worm bin. crushed into dust first
i also let some chunks sit in my ACT brewer when its running
i get my char for free from all the burnt trees here in cali, making the best of the fires..i will also be planting tree's with forestaid this march
Thank you.
 

mad librettist

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yeah Darc, thanks, that's what I wound up doing. I used a little plastic box and a length of lumber as a mortar and pestle.
 

big ballin 88

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I just bought 8qts of HORTICULUAL CHARCOAL from fred myers garden supply section, its just small wood chips, about 1/4"-3/8"

its pure burnt wood like the coyboy charcoal except its allready in tiny pieces.

i did find slighty burnt pieces of tongue and groove plywood in my cowboy charcoal, but only once in 2 bags it does not break up either. its just construction scrap, so toss it.

i compared the price of the Horticultural charcoal to what i buy from Ebay and with the shipping its about the same..

if your in the 48 states where shipping is affordable, the VEEGRO BioChar from EBay is the way to go..try it.

11liters for $12

i use the smaller chunks of cowboy charcoal for drain stones in the bottom of my pots..

i sift them out in a plastic shopping basket and recycle them after harvest.

I Know the charcoal is a benifit, it seems to keep everything clean and healthy.

Organic lovers< ebay has Texas Worm castings, beautiful dry sifted poop, 20lbs shipped for only $20.

and to me it was sent USPS Priority flatrate for $20 total :)

it,s a good thing Obama only squandered $30Billion on global warming, if he spent more all the states would be experiancing the coldest deepest snowy weather in history+- lol

another 20lbs of worm poop i got elsewhere was big gooey chunks of who knows what? stay warm GK


For the price i dont think you can beat Cowboy charcoal 8.8 ponds for 8 dollars and i'll beat it to hell myself:deadhorse. That way i get powder, coarse stones and the occasional larger piece which makes a good home to the micros. For thi price i rather just buy it since rice hulls would cost the same or more to convert..
 

jaykush

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For the price i dont think you can beat Cowboy charcoal 8.8 ponds for 8 dollars

i used to buy red oak for 8$ and it was 20 lb bag. also a local hardware store sells 20 lb bags of 100% natural no name brand charcoal for 5$
 

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