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But...on nozzles..the 2 gph 'hammer' black Toros work really well and I've not experienced a clog yet in them. I have about 60 but the aerosol generated is a bit larger and heavier. I'm running a 4'x4' table with about 30 nozzles now, so I'm using some of the like 100 XL fogger nozzles I have, which are like .8 gph I think.
The concept you want to focus on here is not volume of water but application of aerosol. The wet-dream machine would emit a fog for about 10 second every 160 second with a rapid evaporative exchange inbetween. The idea is to lightly coat the root hairs with a fine mist of aerosol moisture and then have it evaporate off about 80% before the next application. This is what creates the rapid 'respiration' of the root system and they literally start to 'breathe' life and grow like ...well weeds. :smile:
This is why tubes and all that jazz isn't True aeroponics... if you just spray the roots with water and let them drip dry it is technically 'aeroponic' in action but on such a primitive and retarded (slow) scale. I think you can see the difference.
That is what led me into my research as I was chasing the elusive DO from DWC to find that it had nothing to do with dissolved oxygen in the water, it had to do with gas exchange at the root hair level. Once I could break down every aspect of cellular activity to see if I couldn't 'improve' on existing technology, which...even though my detractors would like to claim otherwise—I did.
And the cumulation of all that 2 years of investigation and filtering down of what was important and what wasn't led me to develop the 'concept' of TAG as I saw a need to not only define what 'True Aeroponics' is, but also to break it down into the easiest 'How-to' formula and system I could for others to learn.
See, I develop marketing and product designs for very high end, high level clients (like the before mentioned NASA and Others) so I have been privy to advance technology and some of the most brilliant minds working today. I picked their brains and learned everything I could and then decided to put it all into a nice little marketing vehicle so everyone that had the same interest as I could skip the 15 some odd failed photo-types, flooded carpets, dead-fried-sick-empty grows, as well as tackle some of the more apparent problems with the Aerotube designs.
What I found was ignorance. That ignorance led to rot, which led to death... I started to see even deeper into the connections of the systems of life. It became a 2 year spiritual journey that has led to even more profound discoveries in my personal life, completely unrelated to growing pot. :smile:
Having been a buddhist for a long while in my 20's I realized that Ignorance is the only true evil aside from pride. (As you'll see, I'm not about pride...I'm about respect...there is a difference) So, I attempted to educate and enlighten others as to why their 'aero' grows were constantly plagued with root rot and sometimes complete failure as (blank) found after they threw my ass under the bus and ran off with their own egos. Pride kills, its a purely karmic reaction. I take pride in my achievements not my attitude, but my achievements have been great and superior all my life in comparison to others, so why should I have to constantly apologize for being a superior human? I understand the attractive nature of humility and self-effacing posturing, but honestly...all people are not created equal, that is seriously obvious, so I refuse to apologize for having a more capable intellect or superior ability to solve problems or issues. People are suppose to enjoy those gifts and share them, as I try. It shouldn't threaten or intimidate anyone as most advance intelligence demonstrates a compassion and desire to ease suffering.
But, ignorance is the evil that must persist I suppose. What I learned at 3 years of age is that its best to play alone as 'friends' only come over to destroy your cool toys out of envy or jealousy and most people don't feel they have enough to share anything. I was gifted, more so than I should have been maybe, but I was also handed a shitty life on top of that to commpensate...so, trust me...it works out...not even in the green.
The point I guess I'm making is: You should never be afraid to ask questions or demand legit proof for anything, just be prepared to open your mind and learn rather than resist and preach ignorance. I love a great debate, the odd thing is...most intelligent people I meet think exactly the same way I do so we never have to debate anything. I try never to argue, especially with monkeys...lol, but I get grabbed by an ape once in awhile and well...I have to get all primitive on their asses, cause I'm still an animal and a Man. Pride is part and parcel of that kit, I'm afraid.
But for me a lot of this shit is really obvious and simple, only because my mind is accustomed to making those sorts of connections and then researching them to see if I'm correct in my 'brilliant' leap of intellect. Brilliance, by definition, is the ability to attain solutions or answers without thinking about it in a linear fashion. Rather than follow a trail to an end, what makes brilliant people brilliant is their minds are so acute that they can perceive the answer ahead of the journey. Sort of like traveling at light speed and waiting to see if everyone gets there eventually.
That is what boosts an IQ above 100. As an introverted genius that detests society and media as well as narcissism in humans my mind developed the ability to just perceive huge leaps that 98% of the time turn out to be accurate, so I've learned to trust my intellect...but enjoy seeking it out to see if I was correct, because even that is connected on a level to a system.
I think what might have set everyone off was my use of the word 'manifold' as in "I created that TAG manifold"...I think the ignorant thought I meant 'I invented aeroponics' whereas I meant (Manifold=A whole composed of diverse elements.)
Or more specifically Manifolds arise naturally in a variety of mathematical and physical applications as "global objects." For example, in order to precisely describe all the configurations of a robot arm or all the possible positions and momenta of a rocket, an object is needed to store all of these parameters. The objects that crop up are manifolds. From the geometric perspective, manifolds represent the profound idea having to do with global versus local properties.
The basic example of a manifold is Euclidean space, and many of its properties carry over to manifolds. In addition, any smooth boundary of a subset of Euclidean space, like the circle or the sphere, is a manifold. Manifolds are therefore of interest in the study of geometry, topology, and analysis.
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Manifold.html
If you are so inclined. I understand if you aren't.
So, what does this have to do with nozzles? Absolutely nothing... I just felt like sharing. :smile:
But to try and answer your question you'll want a filter that is at least 150 mesh or 200 is better. Use only liquid ferts unless you like to boil your own up on the stove and be careful of your mixing that you don't cause the minerals to come out of solution as you can with mixing your acids and bases. Other than that, just read throught the first post and dive in. The water's great!
The concept you want to focus on here is not volume of water but application of aerosol. The wet-dream machine would emit a fog for about 10 second every 160 second with a rapid evaporative exchange inbetween. The idea is to lightly coat the root hairs with a fine mist of aerosol moisture and then have it evaporate off about 80% before the next application. This is what creates the rapid 'respiration' of the root system and they literally start to 'breathe' life and grow like ...well weeds. :smile:
This is why tubes and all that jazz isn't True aeroponics... if you just spray the roots with water and let them drip dry it is technically 'aeroponic' in action but on such a primitive and retarded (slow) scale. I think you can see the difference.
That is what led me into my research as I was chasing the elusive DO from DWC to find that it had nothing to do with dissolved oxygen in the water, it had to do with gas exchange at the root hair level. Once I could break down every aspect of cellular activity to see if I couldn't 'improve' on existing technology, which...even though my detractors would like to claim otherwise—I did.
And the cumulation of all that 2 years of investigation and filtering down of what was important and what wasn't led me to develop the 'concept' of TAG as I saw a need to not only define what 'True Aeroponics' is, but also to break it down into the easiest 'How-to' formula and system I could for others to learn.
See, I develop marketing and product designs for very high end, high level clients (like the before mentioned NASA and Others) so I have been privy to advance technology and some of the most brilliant minds working today. I picked their brains and learned everything I could and then decided to put it all into a nice little marketing vehicle so everyone that had the same interest as I could skip the 15 some odd failed photo-types, flooded carpets, dead-fried-sick-empty grows, as well as tackle some of the more apparent problems with the Aerotube designs.
What I found was ignorance. That ignorance led to rot, which led to death... I started to see even deeper into the connections of the systems of life. It became a 2 year spiritual journey that has led to even more profound discoveries in my personal life, completely unrelated to growing pot. :smile:
Having been a buddhist for a long while in my 20's I realized that Ignorance is the only true evil aside from pride. (As you'll see, I'm not about pride...I'm about respect...there is a difference) So, I attempted to educate and enlighten others as to why their 'aero' grows were constantly plagued with root rot and sometimes complete failure as (blank) found after they threw my ass under the bus and ran off with their own egos. Pride kills, its a purely karmic reaction. I take pride in my achievements not my attitude, but my achievements have been great and superior all my life in comparison to others, so why should I have to constantly apologize for being a superior human? I understand the attractive nature of humility and self-effacing posturing, but honestly...all people are not created equal, that is seriously obvious, so I refuse to apologize for having a more capable intellect or superior ability to solve problems or issues. People are suppose to enjoy those gifts and share them, as I try. It shouldn't threaten or intimidate anyone as most advance intelligence demonstrates a compassion and desire to ease suffering.
But, ignorance is the evil that must persist I suppose. What I learned at 3 years of age is that its best to play alone as 'friends' only come over to destroy your cool toys out of envy or jealousy and most people don't feel they have enough to share anything. I was gifted, more so than I should have been maybe, but I was also handed a shitty life on top of that to commpensate...so, trust me...it works out...not even in the green.
The point I guess I'm making is: You should never be afraid to ask questions or demand legit proof for anything, just be prepared to open your mind and learn rather than resist and preach ignorance. I love a great debate, the odd thing is...most intelligent people I meet think exactly the same way I do so we never have to debate anything. I try never to argue, especially with monkeys...lol, but I get grabbed by an ape once in awhile and well...I have to get all primitive on their asses, cause I'm still an animal and a Man. Pride is part and parcel of that kit, I'm afraid.
But for me a lot of this shit is really obvious and simple, only because my mind is accustomed to making those sorts of connections and then researching them to see if I'm correct in my 'brilliant' leap of intellect. Brilliance, by definition, is the ability to attain solutions or answers without thinking about it in a linear fashion. Rather than follow a trail to an end, what makes brilliant people brilliant is their minds are so acute that they can perceive the answer ahead of the journey. Sort of like traveling at light speed and waiting to see if everyone gets there eventually.
That is what boosts an IQ above 100. As an introverted genius that detests society and media as well as narcissism in humans my mind developed the ability to just perceive huge leaps that 98% of the time turn out to be accurate, so I've learned to trust my intellect...but enjoy seeking it out to see if I was correct, because even that is connected on a level to a system.
I think what might have set everyone off was my use of the word 'manifold' as in "I created that TAG manifold"...I think the ignorant thought I meant 'I invented aeroponics' whereas I meant (Manifold=A whole composed of diverse elements.)
Or more specifically Manifolds arise naturally in a variety of mathematical and physical applications as "global objects." For example, in order to precisely describe all the configurations of a robot arm or all the possible positions and momenta of a rocket, an object is needed to store all of these parameters. The objects that crop up are manifolds. From the geometric perspective, manifolds represent the profound idea having to do with global versus local properties.
The basic example of a manifold is Euclidean space, and many of its properties carry over to manifolds. In addition, any smooth boundary of a subset of Euclidean space, like the circle or the sphere, is a manifold. Manifolds are therefore of interest in the study of geometry, topology, and analysis.
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Manifold.html
If you are so inclined. I understand if you aren't.
So, what does this have to do with nozzles? Absolutely nothing... I just felt like sharing. :smile:
But to try and answer your question you'll want a filter that is at least 150 mesh or 200 is better. Use only liquid ferts unless you like to boil your own up on the stove and be careful of your mixing that you don't cause the minerals to come out of solution as you can with mixing your acids and bases. Other than that, just read throught the first post and dive in. The water's great!
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