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SO i think im going to make one of these when i get time to round up all the materials. One question... i know that you are supposed to use plain tap water, but does PH matter? My tap water has a ph of 9.1, and i think that might be a little too high for some clones... if it isnt then hey this is going to be real easy!
I look forward to a day when the clones i cut actually root!
I look forward to a day when the clones i cut actually root!
Yeah... I'd lower the pH to neutral-ish...
hey gratefulhead-great cloner dude. i plan on building it right away, I have never cloned before but I am confident that this method shoiuld work. I plan on using some rooting hormone.
I have a couple of questions. Does the 25-35% of the cutting that you place under the perlite form the new roots? Does this section need to include a node with leaves removed? Also, how many nodes should I have above the perlite? I am thinking 2 nodes with bigger leaves trimmed down. At least that is what it looks like from some of the pictures. It would make sense that the leaves may be trimmed, for less H2O loss due to transpiration. I am pretty sure the biggest caveat regardning cloning is having the high humidity.
I hope you can answer my post soon, i plan on cloning soon and this thread has not been active in awhile. Regardless I'll put up some pics too.
I have a couple of questions. Does the 25-35% of the cutting that you place under the perlite form the new roots? Does this section need to include a node with leaves removed? Also, how many nodes should I have above the perlite? I am thinking 2 nodes with bigger leaves trimmed down. At least that is what it looks like from some of the pictures. It would make sense that the leaves may be trimmed, for less H2O loss due to transpiration. I am pretty sure the biggest caveat regardning cloning is having the high humidity.
I hope you can answer my post soon, i plan on cloning soon and this thread has not been active in awhile. Regardless I'll put up some pics too.
SeedsToRiches
Member
BAH i tried to make this but failed, all the stores around me stock the wicks "sesionally" and i mean everywhere, i even tried K-Mart
yea thats what I found. However, some further research http://www.wickstore.com/waterwick.html
Specific wicks for watering plants. only 1/8" diameter tho.
Specific wicks for watering plants. only 1/8" diameter tho.
alrite sort of a mini update for any of those interested. I attempted making this cloner, using really crappy oil candle wicks (no tiki torch wicks up in da north woods eh). Don't have a drill, so I cut out slots for the wicks. They did not wick up the water very well. Instead I decided to go with cotton t-shirt pieces to wick up the water, but it didnt get as moist as it needs to be.
So I ordered a 50 yd spool of those water wicks, and picked up a new tub. A buddy of mine will be drilling holes in it. Also, I am deciding to make a 1:1 mix of big and chunky perlite: vermiculite. I feel that all of these corrections will make my cloner more successful at wicking up water as well as providing adequate moisture for the plant roots. I'll update with pics once everythings in full swing.
I know this thread has been "dead" for awhile, but if any of you old timers are around and wanna offer some advice, please do so!
So I ordered a 50 yd spool of those water wicks, and picked up a new tub. A buddy of mine will be drilling holes in it. Also, I am deciding to make a 1:1 mix of big and chunky perlite: vermiculite. I feel that all of these corrections will make my cloner more successful at wicking up water as well as providing adequate moisture for the plant roots. I'll update with pics once everythings in full swing.
I know this thread has been "dead" for awhile, but if any of you old timers are around and wanna offer some advice, please do so!
very scalable!
very scalable!
I'm still getting great use out of this thread. I just built one of these. I mainly picked this idea because I can make it super small as I only need 1 or 2 clones a month. I'm hopping that if I allow for an extra week or two I can get clones with the temp being in the low 60's at night. I'm waiting to see.
Thanks for the creative ideas everyone!
very scalable!
I'm still getting great use out of this thread. I just built one of these. I mainly picked this idea because I can make it super small as I only need 1 or 2 clones a month. I'm hopping that if I allow for an extra week or two I can get clones with the temp being in the low 60's at night. I'm waiting to see.
Thanks for the creative ideas everyone!
drelow31@yahoo.
Member
where can i find the real deal sour bubble from is that bogs sb
iLLperception
Member
Just finished reading this whole thread. I've had tons of trouble cloning, tried rockwool, jiffys, pearlite, bubblers, etc, and only had a few clones root out of many attempts. The few that did root were explosive which I found strange as the others would just turn dark brown on the tips and wilt and die.
Anyway, I will be building this and giving it a shot. Thanks H3ad for putting this together, looks to be extremely simple and effective!!!
Anyway, I will be building this and giving it a shot. Thanks H3ad for putting this together, looks to be extremely simple and effective!!!
Be careful with that much vermiculite, Tosphan. Maybe go 80/20, I use mostly pure perlite. Setup the cloner and see how moist it stays. The other thing is be careful not to go too deep with the perlite filled container. Sometimes, it just doesn't wick up to far over a great distance or at least not fast enough in order to compensate for evaporation.
G
Guest
I use straight vermiculite.... while I use one of the variations of wick cloners I get nearly 100% and never get any rot... Ive done more than one head to head... vermiculite vs perlite and vermiculite has consistantly won.....
I normally take 3 clones of all my plants before they go into flower...
the advantage to this system...
No wicks the vermiculite does that...
the roots stay seperate...
I get 27 cuttings in a small space....
I have taken instead of pulling them from the rooting trays at about day 9 ....when most have rooted... to allowing them to build a nice root system in the trays prior to removal.... I begin feeding them about day 7.....
In the trays ...
Rooted plug and vermiculite....
Vermiculite rinsed away for viewing.... normally I plant the whole plug
I use a tube ice cube maker from walmart...
vermiculite from lowes and clonex....
no wicks... temps(overlookied) low 80's
I normally take 3 clones of all my plants before they go into flower...
the advantage to this system...
No wicks the vermiculite does that...
the roots stay seperate...
I get 27 cuttings in a small space....
I have taken instead of pulling them from the rooting trays at about day 9 ....when most have rooted... to allowing them to build a nice root system in the trays prior to removal.... I begin feeding them about day 7.....
In the trays ...
Rooted plug and vermiculite....
Vermiculite rinsed away for viewing.... normally I plant the whole plug
I use a tube ice cube maker from walmart...
vermiculite from lowes and clonex....
no wicks... temps(overlookied) low 80's
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G
Guest
I find the biggest problem is low temps...
I use 83-84 degrees....
18 days... wow.... I thow everything out after 12-14.....most root in 6-9
Ive probably done 20 strains....and dont rememberr once under 80%
I suspect since you took 18 days your temps are low....
I use 83-84 degrees....
18 days... wow.... I thow everything out after 12-14.....most root in 6-9
Ive probably done 20 strains....and dont rememberr once under 80%
I suspect since you took 18 days your temps are low....
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Hi Pepe
I know temps are important. My room sits in the 77-82 range 24 hrs, and the first time I tried to clone, my lower veg lights were on with a crop, so I know the clones on the rack above were receiving extra heat, probably 85-86. No luck. The cuts would callous over but no roots, and I would give up and pitch them. It was also summer the first try, I know my temps were up there then.....
I rooted my infamously hard to clone OB1 in 36 days in a peat pellet. This is long, but I think next time I can bring the time down. Other growers had equally tough luck or no luck at all with this strain.
As for the recent Mountain Jam clones, this was 18 days till I had confirmed new top growth, not just some roots poking from the stem.
I know temps are important. My room sits in the 77-82 range 24 hrs, and the first time I tried to clone, my lower veg lights were on with a crop, so I know the clones on the rack above were receiving extra heat, probably 85-86. No luck. The cuts would callous over but no roots, and I would give up and pitch them. It was also summer the first try, I know my temps were up there then.....
I rooted my infamously hard to clone OB1 in 36 days in a peat pellet. This is long, but I think next time I can bring the time down. Other growers had equally tough luck or no luck at all with this strain.
As for the recent Mountain Jam clones, this was 18 days till I had confirmed new top growth, not just some roots poking from the stem.
G
Guest
Mister Postman said:
Headypete...this was posted today and pretty much matches my experience... and he doesnt even use a rooting hormone....
I have read about people that have some issues cloning....I know you know what you are doing... while I dont really understand it...and would love to have a shot at some of these difficult to clone strains, I personally have not seen one....
I have a lot less experience with sativa doms..... which may for some reason be more difficult...
But the bottom line... as long as you have found a method you like....
what more can you ask for....
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KUSHEATER1
Active member
low temps will cause them to take longer but I found that if I just left them alone they would root
all rooted in 15 days
all rooted in 15 days
RED145
Member
Low temps always slow my cloning,In the basement in winter takes some getting used too.I usually use rapid rooters and get about 7 outta 10,always at least 12 days sometimes a little longer.
Good Idea H3ad,bored last nite and grabbed a couple of them Glad containers,laptop cam so......
No perlite but hey...lets try straight Coco!!
A couple a Zep's Sour Thai's...
And in the box it goes,I like the wick idea,I think it will be care free and we will see..
Prego,it's in there!!
Good Idea H3ad,bored last nite and grabbed a couple of them Glad containers,laptop cam so......
No perlite but hey...lets try straight Coco!!
A couple a Zep's Sour Thai's...
And in the box it goes,I like the wick idea,I think it will be care free and we will see..
Prego,it's in there!!
