joselima23
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TokenBlackGuy said:
Can you post a pic of your set up?
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Can you post a pic of your set up?
Grat3fulH3ad said:
Soon to be! This looks too easy...
Thanks for the info!
CaptJamesTKirk
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After a couple weeks, I had many dead cuttings and 2 with roots and about 1/2 with no roots. Temps here are mid winter and probably too low, but frankly with small pearlite it is a real PIA to get the cutting OUT of the medium without screwing up the roots.
Possible a larger size pearlite would work better than what I had.
I cleaned and sterilized the aerocloners and both are back into production mode - fat root clumps in about 2 weeks and in the same temprature enviorment.
I also used Rockwool and Clone-x on 15 cuts - 13 are in soil and growing.
So - out of 3 different methods, this method had the worst results for high mountain winter growing.
My results would indicate the wise grower should try several methods and find what works for you
Possible a larger size pearlite would work better than what I had.
I cleaned and sterilized the aerocloners and both are back into production mode - fat root clumps in about 2 weeks and in the same temprature enviorment.
I also used Rockwool and Clone-x on 15 cuts - 13 are in soil and growing.
So - out of 3 different methods, this method had the worst results for high mountain winter growing.
My results would indicate the wise grower should try several methods and find what works for you
Indeed, the wise grower should... Very odd that you were unable to obtain good results with it though... I have only ever had problems once, when there were 95+ temps in the room, and then only about 75% rooted, and took a few days longer... There must have been some other issue with yours...CaptJamesTKirk said:
The Aero cloner gave me the worst results of any method I've used... Lot's of rotten slimy stems... That was what prompted me to try this out initially... I had better results sticking cuts in dirt, lol...
Just like anything, there are hundreds of different ways to clone, I suggest to everyone to always try out new things, or you'll never discover what works best for you...
Glad you've found something that gives you great results! That's what it's all about, eh?
CaptJamesTKirk
Active member
A MEN!!!! LOL
First requirement is a healthy plant to take the cuttung from.
I had some nutes go bad in the bottle and have struggled 6 months to recover. It was the same nutes soil and water and just kept getting worse - I'm currently on a campaign to get all manafactures to date all time sensitive products. We as consumers have no way to keep retailers honest - the good ones will turn product fast enough to keep current, others would rather sell stale ferts than discount or distroy.
We need to fix this oversight.
First requirement is a healthy plant to take the cuttung from.
I had some nutes go bad in the bottle and have struggled 6 months to recover. It was the same nutes soil and water and just kept getting worse - I'm currently on a campaign to get all manafactures to date all time sensitive products. We as consumers have no way to keep retailers honest - the good ones will turn product fast enough to keep current, others would rather sell stale ferts than discount or distroy.
We need to fix this oversight.
Definately need to fix the oversight! Anything with a limited shelf life has to be dated... I wonder how many 'mystery' problems that people have in their garden can be traced back to old nutes and/or supliments...
CaptJamesTKirk
Active member
Several - there are a couple threads and I want to start a new one to petition each manafacturer.
I've been in contact with FoxFarm and they damn well know of the problem, and have. I try to make unscruplious retailers the bad guy and FoxFarm still is not hearing enough discord to step up to the plate.
Possibly if everybody using nutes that indeed go bad would contact the manafacturer, and convince them that this is a needed step to keep retailer honest and insure quality products arrive at the cunsumer - and a marketing ploy that is honest, open and consumer oriented
I've been in contact with FoxFarm and they damn well know of the problem, and have. I try to make unscruplious retailers the bad guy and FoxFarm still is not hearing enough discord to step up to the plate.
Possibly if everybody using nutes that indeed go bad would contact the manafacturer, and convince them that this is a needed step to keep retailer honest and insure quality products arrive at the cunsumer - and a marketing ploy that is honest, open and consumer oriented
What an excellent design. This is the cloner I am gonna use. I was thinking jiffy pellets and a seed starting tray but that's more expensive and messier. This system obviously rocks.
May I suggest to the person with troubles that you add a little 3% hydrogen peroxide to the rez. This will kill the pathogens and aerate the roots. Peroxide is perfectly safe. If you are using tap water from a well, then there is probably no chlorine to sanitize.
Another idea for a wick may be the wood stove door gasket material you can get at most hardware stores. I believe it is straight braided fibreglass rope but would need to investigate further. It is 5/8" and looks like fat white rope.
I tested it's wicking ability and at around 15 min submerged one end, it was reasonable moist to about 4 " up. I would say that this would wick well and move lots of volume up to the perlite.
One question: How do you start seeds? Could you paper towel them then drop em in a perlite hole after they sprout? Guess that was two....
Thanks H3ad! If I could give you + rep again I would!
May I suggest to the person with troubles that you add a little 3% hydrogen peroxide to the rez. This will kill the pathogens and aerate the roots. Peroxide is perfectly safe. If you are using tap water from a well, then there is probably no chlorine to sanitize.
Another idea for a wick may be the wood stove door gasket material you can get at most hardware stores. I believe it is straight braided fibreglass rope but would need to investigate further. It is 5/8" and looks like fat white rope.
I tested it's wicking ability and at around 15 min submerged one end, it was reasonable moist to about 4 " up. I would say that this would wick well and move lots of volume up to the perlite.
One question: How do you start seeds? Could you paper towel them then drop em in a perlite hole after they sprout? Guess that was two....
Thanks H3ad! If I could give you + rep again I would!
I put them in a cup of h2o untill they sink, let them sit on the bottom for a few hours, then pop them into a cup of damp promix...HeadyPete said:
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Ok, so for my first time cloning I used this method and all but one of the cuttings formed wonderfull roots. THANKS! Great post! You rock! I could not find the tiki torch wicks so I made my own from some starile cotten batting and string from the craft store. Worked like a charm.
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Ok, so for my first time cloning I used this method and all but one of the cuttings formed wonderfull roots. THANKS! Great post! You rock! I could not find the tiki torch wicks so I made my own from some starile cotten batting and string from the craft store. Worked like a charm.
Pepe Le Peeyoo
Member
Well, I went and tried this method a month ago.... 21 days later---no roots! so I dipped the bottoms in Olivias, sunk them into those sponge-peat plugs, and 5 days later voila!! I did keep the perlite around to set the plugs on top of, inside a humidity dome with a bubbler in a cup of water tho.... but my next venture will be with aero cloning I think. even tho I have had a 100% success rate with the plugs, i am looking for more speed. PEACE
yeah... definately not the speediest method out there... In fact, since I've begun using coco, I've gone to cloning in coco... Damp coco in seed starter trays, dip cuts in a favorite rooting hormone, plug them in...haven't had one fail to root in under a week yet...
The pearlite cloner served it's purpose keeping my smaller perpetual grow stocked, but I'm sold on the coco now...
The pearlite cloner served it's purpose keeping my smaller perpetual grow stocked, but I'm sold on the coco now...
well... they're just garden store seed starter trays... like the ones burpee or jiffy make... found at walmart, or home depot, or the local hardware store... they come with a clear lid dome... I used it for the first two days, then they seemed fine on their own...roots coming thru the bottom in a week or so, and there's nothing in my coco but coco when I transplant them...
I've done them with and without hormone, and the hormone is bit faster...
I've done them with and without hormone, and the hormone is bit faster...
yeah, if they wilt back down any after the dome is removed, I'll give 'em a bit of mist...
weed enjoyer
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great thread and directions.
i just constructed a couple mini ones, holding 10-15 each and it was very easy.
for the wick i used a sliced sock. lets see if it works out well.
i just constructed a couple mini ones, holding 10-15 each and it was very easy.
for the wick i used a sliced sock. lets see if it works out well.
