Stone
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Do you ph your tap water?
Stronger rooting agent make cloning easier??
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Hiddenjems
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No
dogzter
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Never once in decades of growing in multiple locations its a nonissue if you can drink it its ok.
Hiddenjems
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I used to use ro water, until I saw I was spending $100 a year putting calcium and magnesium back in the water I just took it out of.
Its cited that RO and distilling removes minerals and makes H20 a corrosive liquid a oxidizer ?
The other one may be deionized water?
Think the point is start with ultra pure feed water and then add back some trace minerals to buffer the PH
Where @dogzter is growing you got excellent tap water quality from memory ?
Youd like to see the impurities in concentrate im pulling from ground water ?
At sea level its so nasty
Florida water ... with me to not good of a experience either
Maybe its the sand its not very good for separating aquifers like clay and bedrock are
Maine and Montana on wells im sure was swell
Which state had the best water ?
At sea level its so nasty
Florida water ... with me to not good of a experience either
Maybe its the sand its not very good for separating aquifers like clay and bedrock are
Maine and Montana on wells im sure was swell
Which state had the best water ?
Guess we can both consider ourselves lucky were not in Flint, MI
Dont put that in your pipe and drink it
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Were really blessed to have great potable water in the USA
For the most part,
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Id agree @dogzter polluted water in the states is an exception to great quality water which is the standard set by the EPA
Grown many pants on tap water, but I still prefer ultra pure water for seedlings and cuts
In fact its the chemical fertilizers which are blamed for heavy metal contamination im pretty sure.
Organics definately have their benefits ? Been wanting to try the AZOs Cloning products
Azospirillum brasilense - Wikipedia
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From Azo's
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AZOS specializes in the highly-efficient conversion of the N2 form of nitrogen into plant-available ammoniacal nitrogen.
Plant Growth Promoter - With the increased accessibility of nitrogen in the soil, AZOS can catalyze a natural growth hormone within plants that help promote more root and vegetative growth. AZOS is great for rooting out cuttings, transplants, and water-borne applications throughout various plant stages.
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Hiddenjems
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It’s the organic bros with elevated metal levels.
@Tomatoesonly not sure if any of this may help.
Rockwool cubes with the plastic label are my goto. Placed on a bed of moist perlite .
One thing i know for sure is it helps to make sure that the rockwool get removed later on as the the plant ages. but this may require removing the wool in stages, and then some small plant support after the removal.
Sometimes the RW causes problems later, sometimes not, theres alot to be said here about environment & pathogen load. They sure play their part. An this can also explain why some can clone an some cant.
But i always remove the RW now because of the few times out of the thousands of clones it has caused problems later down the line.
I don't remove the RW right after it roots. still to fragile. i want as many of those roots to search down into the medium an setup a footing in the medium.
but after a few weeks it has to come out, or like u said it can potentially have problems. It retains to much moisture an provides a possible breeding ground for pathogens. so post cloning i avoid any watering directly into the wool. and moisture still does wick up.
After the RW removal, every transplant thereafter goes into a larger container and the original rockwool "crown area" gets set higher and higher above the medium. This dry down hardens off the upper root crown area.
As always it helps to stop watering this crown area, an make sure drippers or hand watering splashs stay away too. Soaker hoses or blumats are set back some. Take notice of the wicking high water marks.
Gotta keep that crown high an dry, just like the old BOG tutorials. be well man
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If going from rockwool to soil, try putting the cutting in the rockwool and putting the rockwool buried halfway in a solo cup of soil. It really balances the moisture in the rockwool, not drying out too fast or staying too soggy. Use clear solo cups so you can see the roots.
When transplant time comes just bury rockwool with soil when transplanting, about a half inch of soil on top of the RW.
1/3 castings 2/3 peat mix like Promix works well in the solo cup. Just make sure it drains properly. Clones use most of their reserves making roots and it is important to have nutrients available as soon as roots are established.
When transplant time comes just bury rockwool with soil when transplanting, about a half inch of soil on top of the RW.
1/3 castings 2/3 peat mix like Promix works well in the solo cup. Just make sure it drains properly. Clones use most of their reserves making roots and it is important to have nutrients available as soon as roots are established.
I vaguely remember reading cadmium levels where aggravated by other soil agronomy an or nutrient issues. But sometimes natural features of the environment itself or pollution too.
fertilizer impurities. PH below 6, low organic matter. then where it get interesting it competes with zinc, an often hitches a ride with P.
I keep wanting to say there is another correlation with high aluminum levels. Some chemical by-process the plant goes through.
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Azomite is one of the culprites
Hyperaccumulator - Wikipedia
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Water your new clones with 1/4 strength veg hydro ferts
