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The Nevils Haze and Nevils Haze hybrids discussion thread.

Stoneguru

Well-known member
I am glad you popped in Dubi I wanted to point out your information relating to the Outback Haze is wrong, and it shows how full of it you are.

You and Stoney should team up and do a few projects together, lol

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First off, Nevil has never been back to Holland since he left and the Outback Haze Clone Karel got came from Mishka. She was given seeds by Nevil in Australia when she visited him to get him to sign a document, and the clone was selected by her.

The Outback is nothing like a pure Thai, but don't let the sales pitch get in the way of reality, lol.

The Outback is Thai/NH-21 x NH-36 and you be lucky to find a plant that even resembled a 50% Thai what you also fail to grasp Dubi is this the Thai smokes like the very best Haze Nevil ever grew

Karel in a podcast last year, I believe it was claimed the Outback Haze clone he was given is the best Haze in Holland go find the podcast and listen to it your self don't take my ward for it.

I love how you threw in how you felt it was an unfinished project, lol
Hempy. You have spent the last 10 years at least scanning every thread and forum to promote and compare your Thai...largely to things you have never tried.

This makes it clear that proving something is very important to you.

At the same time you have never just sent the flower to any of the 100's of interactions to independently verify anything.

This makes it clear that not proving anything is also very important to you

That about sums it up.

I like you hempy and people have all kinds of quirks, and issues. Me too. We all do.

It's nothing to get hung up about. Nothing is personal with me. Playful Jabs with friends all the time.

I am confrontational and contradictory as a method. I argue and test all sides and positions to learn and develop holistic understanding rather than get stuck in my own.

Either way.

words don't prove anything on a forum and generally pictures don't either.

Your going through something and that's fine. I think most people still appreciate you and that is of value. ✌️
 

Stoneguru

Well-known member
Now this is a Haze grown by Sam in a greenhouse in Holland, this is what you expect or should from sativas.

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Looks like 14-16'. That's not that uncommon for haze or equatorial. Just gotta give them the veg time and inputs.

You can't expect that if people don't have the greenhouse or ceiling space though

Isn't this your Thai flowered early. It's an ankle biter in different conditions.
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ledo

Chasing the Present
Vendor
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This Kali China / C5 (the waste of a topping of an indoor plant) was at the end easily 3 meters tall in a small bucket. Took it down last november, ripe.

@ 52.75 latitude. It could have been way bigger in the ground and with a bit more care. I have a lot of strains to choose from but this one gives me the best sativa high. Better than my indoor stuff which looks good.

The high is friendly, funny and layered. Good for music, active things indoors, sensual crap, small warm bubble.

@Yo Sammy How is this one compared to Isaac Haze?

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Great little microclimate created in that stone & brick nook; Ganj on lovely photo
 

@hempy

The Haze Whisperer
Hempy. You have spent the last 10 years at least scanning every thread and forum to promote and compare your Thai...largely to things you have never tried.
No I haven't why would I promote my Thai what do I have to gain by doing it as I don't sell seed or do I give a flying fk what people like you think who are in fact the ones promoting their hacks and selling them ?

Who's the guy that posted up Dwight's lies about my Thai in my thread and trashed it to the point i asked for it to be closed, it was Stoney.

Who am I responding to right now Stoney is it you or is it Dwight or is it your other mate ?

At the same time you have never just sent the flower to any of the 100's of interactions to independently verify anything.

Why would I need to do that Stoney Nevil smoked it, so did the guy who worked and looked after Nevil when he was un well and so have others.

Why not just admit your butt hurt because I won't share it with you and your buddies lol why do you keep bringing this up, it has nothing to do with you ?
 

@hempy

The Haze Whisperer
Isn't this your Thai flowered early. It's an ankle biter in different conditions.
That was germinated and grown in winter in a small pot and shaded to flower fast, but you or Dwight wouldn't know that because nether of you were talking to Nevil at that time Nevil grew them.

You also never spoke to him so you know even less lol

My Thai grown correctly grows into tree even indoors.
 

Eclecticon

Active member
Great little microclimate created in that stone & brick nook; Ganj on lovely photo
Garden on the southside, it's in a corner and that neighbours brick wall is still hot in the middle of the night in summer. Im gonna try it again this year with Madmac's haze and a Bandaid#7 X C5/5HzC from @Yo Sammy if it's a female, i'm sexing atm but only have some mini growboxes so can only do one by one and that is gambling unless you pop em all. Plan B is if this one is a male I go for the Kali China c5 again or drop a Tangie x Ghost Train Haze x Headbanger from a cool German dude.
 
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Elmer Bud

Genotype Sex Worker AKA strain whore
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Like I said all haze well, the ones I grow are huge and the biggest problem in growing them apart from keeping the feeding is keeping them mandible.

This Mango Haze is being flowered under 9/15 were put into flower small and left in a one gal pot as I was only intending to flower until they gave up their smell and resin profile, by early flower I had 8 and 9 ft plants.

The Plants grew up and past the light and hit the celling I was forced to transplant 9 ft plants into hempys.

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Same plant at week 21 of flower and all I can get in a pic is half the plant at best now imagine how big that would get with 12/12 and a longer veg with a larger pot or hempy.

This is normal for sativas.

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Like I said any plant I have grown and all the ones I have seen from you are midgets compared to that C5 I saw .
I have been growing about 15 years continuously .I have grown massive Haze hybrids like your pictures . Grown hundreds of Haze hybrids indoors and out .

In that time and my looking at weed sites most every day , I have yet to see a plant with that much bud as the C5 I saw at Sammy`s buddy`s house .

I`m talking a plant as thick as my waist from top to bottom about 5 feet tall and all bud .
No branches with pop corn like in your pic .
 

Elmer Bud

Genotype Sex Worker AKA strain whore
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Now this is a Haze grown by Sam in a greenhouse in Holland, this is what you expect or should from sativas.

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Day length in Amsterdam in Summer ?
16.5 hours . At latitudes where you don`t need a green house to finish these type plants . The longest days are about 14 .
That makes a very big difference in the veg time and size of plants .

The C5 I saw was under HPS .
 

@hempy

The Haze Whisperer
Like I said any plant I have grown and all the ones I have seen from you are midgets compared to that C5 I saw .
I have been growing about 15 years continuously .I have grown massive Haze hybrids like your pictures . Grown hundreds of Haze hybrids indoors and out .
What do you call a big plant Elmer ?
 

harvestreaper

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What do you call a big plant Elmer ?
sir? sorry couldnt resist lol,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,i agree with you on the yield on hazes the good yeilders are for sure in there i remember sam saying this and they didnt need to be super long flo to be good either ie stereotypes im selecting for effect but when one of those yields well to it can only be a good thing
 

mexcurandero420

See the world through a puff of smoke
Veteran
Like I said all haze well, the ones I grow are huge and the biggest problem in growing them apart from keeping the feeding is keeping them mandible.

This Mango Haze is being flowered under 9/15 were put into flower small and left in a one gal pot as I was only intending to flower until they gave up their smell and resin profile, by early flower I had 8 and 9 ft plants.

The Plants grew up and past the light and hit the celling I was forced to transplant 9 ft plants into hempys.

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Same plant at week 21 of flower and all I can get in a pic is half the plant at best now imagine how big that would get with 12/12 and a longer veg with a larger pot or hempy.

This is normal for sativas.

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Here you go, edited your photo a bit.

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@hempy

The Haze Whisperer
Nevil was a moroon for sharing genetics with the likes of you and a few others.
What is your problem, do you have bipolar honest question as you go from one extreme to the next hot cold fk lol

I didn't get a single seed from Nevil, yes he offered me them, but I had what I wanted and all of my genetics were gifted to me by close friends, or I collected, or I paid for them long before I became friends with Nevil.

I was the one that shared genetics with Nevil, why be a dick ?
 

Stoneguru

Well-known member
Nevil was a moroon for sharing genetics with the likes of you and a few others.
There will always be the covet side of human nature and the abundant. We all have both and it's just which we answer to.

Nevil did get the best of it out there to many who are passing the legacy to others.

So far I have only grown around 20 Outback haze in 2 makes from Dwight.

Overall the plants were outstanding in all respects.

So far they seem like excellent Nevil's Haze selections, but I can't tell how the Thai effected it one way or another.

Overall the trichomes were smaller and the one with the most Thai Morphology had all old world stalkless trichomes. This may contribute to why it's difficult to see them in your pictures @HEMPY.

There are lenses you can get to put over your camera that are helpful too

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The effect on that one was slappy and enjoyable for sure.

Overall I just can't distinguish the roll it plays which may have been the goal. Reportedly Nevil told Dwight that the Thai canceled our the NL.

That is a great achievement right there, it's top notch Nevil's haze selected by the man himself and that is special in and of itself.

@HEMPY. I have never grown out other Thai or inquired about your Thai.

If anyone wants it they could just grow out high counts of OJD's F2 and do line work. For now that seems like a lot of work to select away from the winner of the line.

I'll get to these next and am most excited about Vietnamese. This is because it is where I have had a few hits that reminded me of what I like most about haze.


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20' giants even outdoors in equatorial. @HEMPY. Is this what you meant by how a real haze should grow?

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Personally I have found that it can come in a range of packages. There are perimeters, but there is quite a bit of space within there.

Hope you are feeling better today.
 

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