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ThaiBliss

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Speedy Grass: Old school Thai, Sumatran, and Jamaican Ganja. These were extremely strong heirloom strains with a lot of adrenaline rush during the initial onset. These could give a person tachycardia and, quite frankly, fear and paranoia. They were well worth it for the ongoing mind altering trippy and blissful very slow comedown with a clean finish. Great expressions of these strains are very hard to find these days. I'd look for black pepper, lemon, anise, and menthol terpenes.

ACE Seeds has a very good example of energetic genetics in it's Bangi Haze. I don't know why this doesn't get a lot more attention. Maybe it's becasue of the fat hash plant looking leaves. Even I wanted my money back when I started those plants. LOL! However, I've also seen this in VISC Burmese which also had a very cerebral high. ACE Seeds keeps a range of chemotypes in it's population. You might have to look through some to find the right one for you. For me, 2 out of 10 were extremely clean, clear, energetic, and blissful. Some were stronger, but I think the Nepalese side expressions were so extremely irie, that I just couldn't pass them up. They were as good as the old school Mexican laughing grass strains.

I have been growing a Bangi Haze cross for about 10 years. I've been working for more than 4 decades looking for something great again like Thai Stick. I have settled for breeding something cerebral without couch-lock. I've had success since it now has 50% Bangi Haze. It has been a continuous breeding project starting with Purple Asian, then outcrosses and occasional line breeding mostly with Thai hybrids. The most recent outcrosses were with Trainwreck, VISC Burmese, and finally Bangi Haze. It's been 10 years and 4 linebred generations without finding anything that I think would benefit the line.

I have been posting a lot about my praises of Bangi Haze lately. I'm afraid the line will get dropped or lost. It would be a shame. Here are some pictures of plants from the last 10 years and 4 generations with 50% Bangi Haze in it:

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All the Best in your Searches!
 

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FTL

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Speedy Grass: Old school Thai, Sumatran, and Jamaican Ganja. These were extremely strong heirloom strains with a lot of adrenaline rush during the initial onset. These could give a person tachycardia and, quite frankly, fear and paranoia. They were well worth it for the ongoing mind altering trippy and blissful very slow comedown with a clean finish. Great expressions of these strains are very hard to find these days. I'd look for black pepper, lemon, anise, and menthol terpenes.

ACE Seeds has a very good example of energetic genetics in it's Bangi Haze. I don't know why this doesn't get a lot more attention. Maybe it's becasue of the fat hash plant looking leaves. Even I wanted my money back when I started those plants. LOL! However, I've also seen this in VISC Burmese which also had a very cerebral high. ACE Seeds keeps a range of chemotypes in it's population. You might have to look through some to find the right one for you. For me, 2 out of 10 were extremely clean, clear, energetic, and blissful. Some were stronger, but I think the Nepalese side expressions were so extremely irie, that I just couldn't pass them up. They were as good as the old school Mexican laughing grass strains.

I have been growing a Bangi Haze cross for about 10 years. I've been working for more than 4 decades looking for something great again like Thai Stick. I have settled for breeding something cerebral without couch-lock. I've had success since it now has 50% Bangi Haze. It has been a continuous breeding project starting with Purple Asian, then outcrosses and occasional line breeding mostly with Thai hybrids. The most recent outcrosses were with Trainwreck, VISC Burmese, and finally Bangi Haze. It's been 10 years and 4 linebred generations without finding anything that I think would benefit the line.

I have been posting a lot about my praises of Bangi Haze lately. I'm afraid the line will get dropped or lost. It would be a shame. Here are some pictures of plants from the last 10 years and 4 generations with 50% Bangi Haze in it:

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Nice photos of your bangi crosses.

Was just wondering what your outdoor finishi Ng times were like with them?
 

ThaiBliss

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Hi FTL,

Growing them at 42° north, they would finish in late October or very early November. I liked them best harvested a touch early so the later half of October is doable. The stronger ones were harvested the first few days of November.

I'm in the tropics now. I grew one that finished in less than 3 months. I think the heavy seeding and bad weather made it stop pushing out new pistils somewhat early. Saving the genetic diversity is the priority since I brought very few seeds with me.
 

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Hi FTL,

Growing them at 42° north, they would finish in late October or very early November. I liked them best harvested a touch early so the later half of October is doable. The stronger ones were harvested the first few days of November.

I'm in the tropics now. I grew one that finished in less than 3 months. I think the heavy seeding and bad weather made it stop pushing out new pistils somewhat early. Saving the genetic diversity is the priority since I brought very few seeds with me.
Hey Thaibliss

Thanks for that.
Really liking the sound of Bangi more and more , seems a bit underrated.

Will you cross yours in With some Thai ?
 

ThaiBliss

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Will you cross yours in With some Thai ?
Abso...friggin'...lutely! I'm searching and searching and... for one worthy of this line.

I'm looking through my Gypsy Nirvana Thai Stick x (Neville's Haze 21 x Mullumbimby Madness) seeds for a winner. I ordered some Tiger Tail from Prempavee, and Shan Burmese from The Real Seed Company. A local friend ordered Hmong Thai and another from Prempavee. I hope to cooperate and share with my friend. It's going to have to be very good.

If I do find a good one, I plan on crossing to the above mentioned line. I also would want to preserve it. If two or more kinds are good, one can dream, I'd cross and preserve them.

You know me... Thai, Thai, Thai, Thai,... and S.E. Asian!
 

Lolo94

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@ThaiBliss , I'm curious if the Shan Burmese is similar to CSI Humboldts long flowering Burmese IBL. The description sounds great. Some of the trippiest weed I ever had was from NW Thailand/Burma border. It still bothers me that I tossed out the seeds in Thailand 25 years ago.
As far as speedy effects Swazi x Red Congo is great for giving you that shot of motivation and energetic drive to work out. I noticed that the F2 was a little less speedy, so I back crossed it to the Swazi. Roms' Swazi sounds like it has that same energetic kick. I've got some of Coastals Swazi x Burmese that also likely have that speedy effect, but haven't grown them yet .
 

ThaiBliss

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I'd sure like to try some Swazi. I met a guy who grew up in Hawaii. I'm an old guy, and this guy was older than I am. I asked about the old Hawaiian varieties. He said they came from Laos, Thailand, etc., but he also mentioned African Swazi with a glimmer in his eye. The Hawaiian I had from the 70s was great.
 

midwestkid

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Abso...friggin'...lutely! I'm searching and searching and... for one worthy of this line.

I'm looking through my Gypsy Nirvana Thai Stick x (Neville's Haze 21 x Mullumbimby Madness) seeds for a winner. I ordered some Tiger Tail from Prempavee, and Shan Burmese from The Real Seed Company. A local friend ordered Hmong Thai and another from Prempavee. I hope to cooperate and share with my friend. It's going to have to be very good.

If I do find a good one, I plan on crossing to the above mentioned line. I also would want to preserve it. If two or more kinds are good, one can dream, I'd cross and preserve them.

You know me... Thai, Thai, Thai, Thai,... and S.E. Asian!
feel free to tell us about some of the smells you find in your thai explorations?
to me when i smell "thai" in a haze or whatever, the smells seem to warn me of danger. like hot wiring smells or some note that says danger to my brain? does that make sense? kind of a sweet hot wiring smell, like an electrical issue.

then the terpenolene or whatever that kinda has a bubblegum note. that smell i find in some mexicans and it usually means positive mood improvement if i smoke those.
 

midwestkid

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I agree with the Acapulco Gold floating around. Nice terps and It lights my fire. The Durban Poison I have found varies a bit from a Haze smell to the "Anise/ Pepper that I prefer" but seems to have become a rare treat and cant find the anise/pepper as often now. I fire off an Acapulco joint and the next thing I know I'm damn near done with the house work
yessir. this is what im after. when you realize you just cleaned the house and didnt even mean too.
 

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I agree with the Acapulco Gold floating around. Nice terps and It lights my fire. The Durban Poison I have found varies a bit from a Haze smell to the "Anise/ Pepper that I prefer" but seems to have become a rare treat and cant find the anise/pepper as often now. I fire off an Acapulco joint and the next thing I know I'm damn near done with the house work
Hi Capatain N

Which AG do you refer to, is it a cut or from a seed company?

Cheers :)
 
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