Stoner's Spring '06

[PureSativa420]

looking good stoner all but the seedlings and its nice to see the plant is revegging very nicely , so i seen you comment on my weather in CS thread and i thank you for it

i was wondering if i brought the plants inside at night when it gets to low and took em back outside would that work longs there getting all the sun and then a warm place to sleep at night

heres the weather for the next 10 days in my area

Mar 1 Mostly Cloudy 47°/45° 20%

Mar 2 AM Showers 51°/30° 30%

Mar 3 Partly Cloudy 39°/28° 20%

Mar 4 Mostly Sunny 40°/28° 20%

Mar 5 Rain / Snow Showers 41°/33° 30%

Mar 6 Few Snow Showers 37°/30° 30%

Mar 7 Mostly Cloudy 39°/33° 10%

Mar 8 Sunny 44°/31° 20%

Mar 9 Sunny 47°/37° 0%

Mar 10 Few Showers 51°/43° 30%

 

[Stoner133]

Your being generous with your praise, but I hope to have them looking better soon.

I have one plant that is going into natural light today. It was forced to show sex early and showed female, but an anther grew in shortly after. She may be a hermi.

The critical temperature is 32F, that is where water freezes and that will damage the plant. If the temperatures are forecast for 34F, I would still bring them in for insurance. That is the normal temperature inside a refrigerator, they will survive, but there will be some set back. Anything over 40F and they will be safe.

I will be doing exactly the same, but the odds are good mine will need the protection well into April. Yours should be safe outdoors by late March.

As far as the precip, bring it on, it can't hurt an early flowering plant. Hopefully by late April, the weather will have improved enough to reduce the risks of mould.

 

[PureSativa420]

thank you sir Stoner133 as your the only one i can learn and watch grow these lovely spring flowers

so basically your saying days 40 and over take them outside and then the days below that leave them inside under the lights, or if i want to chance it and set them back a little bit take them outside on days above 32 wee im getting the hang of this

 

[sm0kateer4204]

i'll be sure and not turn mine out in anything below 40. even that seems low for the young ones.

 

[Captain Skunk]

PS, the plants love supplemental sunshine early in the midwest but, caution must be exercised as snow showers are still a threat in March, in the the upper midwest.

Killing frosts are rare, but small plants and seedlings are less tolerant of cooler temps, than full grown plants in the fall.

good luck

 

[PureSativa420]

ight folks thanks for the info ill let them go in and outside till it seems good, hmm maybe flip to 12/12 inside to get em going early on and to see the sun on good day should fatten them up with the inside lights jus to keep them happy

 

[Stoner133]

...days 40 and over take them outside ...

Actually, I was suggesting bringing them inside, if the night time temperature is likely to drop into the 30'sF.

Put them back outdoors when it starts to warm up in the morning. Anything over 40F and you can leave them outdoor overnight.

I was doing great last season, right up to April 20. It had been really mild so the plants were outdoors when the temperature dropped to 30F. That was cold enough to damage the outer leaves and I noted a slowing of growth for a couple of weeks.

Flowering plants can take some frost, but at -5C/25F the plant freezes and dies.

 

[PureSativa420]

ok, so days where its sunny and warm in the mid 30s outside then when it goes below that bring them inside

i wasnt really thinking of leaving them outside period till later on in the spring when its 40 at night and better during the day as i dont really want to stunt the growth or animals to eat them as there looking for a night time snack

i got cha now though and will take them in and out on days i can and leave them inside on the days that totally suck

 

[Stoner133]

My outdoor plant is settled into the green house. Temperature reached 40F yesterday and was forecast to fall to 1C/34F last night. This morning, the temperature was -1C/30F, just below freezing.

The green house does provide a little protection from the cold. Even an overcast day is enough to raise the tempetures a few degrees and delay the effect of cold outside air. Yesterday was Sunny and warm.

I suspect I may loose some of the older leaves, they are already showing some stress from the previous transplant. Nothing they can't handle, once it warms up.

Did I mention the colours you get from low tempetures? You can anticipate a range of leaf colours that you don't normally see in plants grown at higher tempetures.

 

[Captain Skunk]

The voyager looks like it had a hard time with the cooler temps but, as you said, it's nothing a little warm weather won't sort out.

Those are going to get pretty big stoner. Are you looking to grow some trees this season?

You can always recycle the stumps in the wood burner after harvest!

 

[Stoner133]

Those are not current images. The frost bitten plant was from the Spring '04 crop. I still have the originals of the 3000 images that once graced my gallery. Now, I can select from the best of the images to illistrate a point.

The Voyager images were from the Fall '04 season. Several of us reported on the results of cold weather. Plants were harmed during testing.

That plant took 7.2C/19.1F and did not survive. Compare with the sheltered control plant after a week.

My natural light plant is doing great. No sign of freezing despite the lower then forecast temps, the GH helps. Same forecast for tonight, 1C/34F. Like trying to grow in a refrigerator.

 

[Captain Skunk]

I didn't think you had any voyager going yet! I should have realized they were from your gallery.

A couple of bowls will do that to a person!

I have quite a picture collection also. I wonder how many I'll be able to post before I run out of the allotted space.

 

[Stoner133]

This, unfortunatly is a current image.




I trusted the usually very reliable forecast and they missed by 6C. I knew they could take the -1C that I expected, but when I woke up, predawn, it was -5C/25F.

It was a hermi anyway.

I decided to re-size the images and use a lower value JPG setting, typical image is under 100K. I can save lots of those in 1.5MB space. Good excuse for selecting some of my favorite reference images.

 

[Peregrin Took]

Just thought of something...

If you and CS have both decided not to do any backyard diva's, are ya planning on doing your spring run at your guerilla spots?

Im paranoid as ever, 'bout my backyard, but will keep a few back there through out the season. I got cool neighbors, never see them. But shitty fences, gaps in the slats 'n such I managed to cover part of them last year for my small unplanned crop, but still brainstorming for this spring.

Will use the same spot for my regular fall ladies, but not real logical for the spring broads, as the grape vine hasnt put on any foilage and the whole corner is exposed. On top of that, the suns position in the sky right now isnt as optimal for that spot as it is during the mid summer months.

Im thinking about using large rubbermaid or sterlite totes instead of planting in ground, and doing either 6 per or 12 in one. As you can see, they will not get very large, but if I can pull 5-7 g per, ill be happy as a clam.

Heres a shot from last year, and shot today of the spring midgets. hehe

 

[Captain Skunk]

We all learn from your plant abuse stoner, keep up the good work. Todays forecast calls for 2-4 inches of snow here. The good news is they are calling for 60F degree temps by the end of next week. That should start things greening up a little.

PT my concerns are, whoever got my backyard plant last season will be back looking this fall....My spring flowering project should be okay in containers, that will be moved out to my guerilla location after the buds are done in May/June.

Even moving the out in June, will give me 3 months veg out in the wild.

 

[Stoner133]

That one is history, the leaves look like wilted lettuce and the top has shrunk in volume.

Part of getting the technique dialed in is reinforcing the importance of covering all the bases. I had a heated shed available, but that would have introduced an artificial timing into the natural light flowering. The purpose of that one plant was to verify natural light flowering.

After that one cold night, the temperatures have rebounded back to seasonable norms. I didn't even freeze last night.

The next plants out are scheduled for mid April. I will have to do the daily shuffle during May and into June.

 

[Captain Skunk]

Casualties of experimentation, while adapting any plant to grow outside of it's normal environment, are the only ways to dial in success. That's why we cut lots of clones.

Fortunately, out favorite plant is hardy and can handle quite a bit of abuse before it calls it quits.

60F by Saturday here...mine will get thier first taste of sunshine.

Let the MJ shuffle begin!

 

[Stoner133]

Yes indeed. I see a heated green house in my future, 400 sq/ft of privacy to pursue my favorite hobby.

The frost bitten plant is showing some signs of life. The top is responding to the light, it is trying to pick up and carry on. One tough little plant.

 

[Guest]

Your greenhouse

Your greenhouse

stoner133: Hi brother, quick question. What have you planned for greenhouse heat, anything yet? You might remember me planning a greenhouse as well, just got some choice glass and structural steel for free. I'm still planning woodheat and using it to circulate hot water under the beds to heat them a bit. I'd like to hear what you may be planning. Be safe.

Bsdwolf

 

[Stoner133]

Propane is the fuel of choice. The best advice is heating water that will circulate under the planter tables. That keeps the roots at optimum tempetures and the arial structures would stay well above freezing.

Wood fuel is workable, but keeping the heater working might require a few midnight trips to the wood pile, under the worst possible conditions.

It would only be needed for the coldest nights, but having a source of heat means the greenhouse ventelation can be used overnight. One problem I have noted in my closed green house is the build up of moisture when it is closed up for the night. Not too serious in the Spring when I would have young plants in vegetive growth, but it becomes a major in the Fall when I am trying to finish dense buds.

Great find, steel and glass are ideal green house materials. A thin coat of white wash will keep the glass opaque from the outside.