SRM/GEOENGINEERING

[HidingInTheHaze]

.......ya, that chem trails are BS.........The only time I've commented about the aluminum was above you where I said "how would I know that, i don't work for them".

I'm not here to enlighten you.......You need to do that yourself.

........yeah, what ever helps you sleep at night homeboy lol.

Really all you need to do is watch the first youtube link I posted in this thread if you want a credible scientist and master gardeners perspective.

The first video I posted is a retired USDA scientist and master gardener speaking out about the changes in soil in California. He tracked changes in soil pH and aluminum content throughout his career and as a master gardener noticed changes being needed to compensate for changes in the soil and changes in intensity of the sun.

On this subject, I look at deniers as people that have really not done a minutes worth of research on the subject just baseless opinions. Not all lines in the sky are chemtrails but a good portion of them are something unexplainable, and the uptick has coincided with the peak of the solar cycle starting in 2012 to the present. I guess you'd try to deny that but facts are the sun let off 6 intense solar flares just this week and as we see and feel unusually warm seasonal temperatures have blanketed the globe this past week and record droughts on the west caost and brazil. The times they be a changin'

 

[SativaBreather]

I would assume they patented it because someone paid them to do research into that area specifically or to develop that specific product.

The only time any company does research into anything, is if their is a profit to be made..............It is a business after all...........Lab equipment, Lab space, staff, chemicals, all cost a lot of money, ain't free.

for someone who knows for fact its bs you got no answer, clearly clueless, go back to school buddy

 

[SativaBreather]

I would assume they patented it because someone paid them to do research into that area specifically or to develop that specific product.

The only time any company does research into anything, is if their is a profit to be made..............It is a business after all...........Lab equipment, Lab space, staff, chemicals, all cost a lot of money, ain't free.

so come on genius WHY would someone pay them to do this research, WHO would pay them to do this research?
who funded Monsanto and biotech into existence?
do you know anything?
seems to me like your patronising condescension has turned into embarrassment at the exposure of YOUR lack of knowledge about anything despite espousing that you know for FACT things you clearly have no knowledge of whatsoever.
Jesus you dont even know basic grammar

 

[dannykarey]

uummmm.....yeah lol. This is the real world man..........Santa isn't real, tooth fairy isn't real.......neither are conspiracy theory whack job ideas like this one lol.

Why would I know anything about what Monsanto does? Do you have any idea how large my field is? My lack of knowledge lol? all these projects are kept top secret in the research phase........So people don't steal ideas and sell them as their own.......That's why they get patents.

Go back to school kids.........your Youtube uni degree doesn't mean anything I'm afraid lol.

............and again, this is a pot forum, I don't half to youse good gramer ..........and I celebrate that fact every chance I get LOL!!!

So.........Aluminum causes Alzheimer's disease, the boss will be thrilled at this.........and air lines are involved in a huge conspiracy theory involving thousands of people to geo engineer the weather.......by using chemical dispersing systems on the wings of planes..........and the reason THEY do this is to kill people?

Can't wait for break time at work........gonna be a lot of laughs LOL!!!!

Have a good day guys, keep fighting the good fight!!!

Danny

 

[SativaBreather]

so basically you're a big mouth know nothing? and you know fuck all about it being BS, you have no clue and your ignorance is shining like a beacon and you have no facts... about right?

pretty embarrassing....

 

[harold]

they sprayed good today didn't they SB? hottest halloween on record? did anybody look up and put two and two together?

why has alzheimers become so prevalent? why has cancer sky rocketed? your genes are an expression of your environment! did they teach you this fundamental rule in your standardizing degree? if something toxic is added to your environment in devastating amounts, what do you expect to happen to peoples health?

 

[SativaBreather]

tonnes of the shit everywhere mate
if the world wasnt full of fools like DummyKarey we'd be going fucking mental about this shit and lynching the kunts responsible

 

[dannykarey]

LOL

 

[SativaBreather]

always enjoy your thoughtful and insightful contributions danny

 

[SativaBreather]

nasa admits chemtrails
gives BS answer over the reason but admits existence so if danny and the total arsehole jericho mile can manage to listen to the 1st 3.5 mins, they'll see

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Z2iRormxkw#t=289

 

[SativaBreather]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBEO0PgA1mY

 

[sal opette]

FFS!

Seems like some people have been learning their people skills from Alex Jones, as well as taking his noydy ranting for the truth

 

[SativaBreather]

cos it is the truth - prove him wrong

i dont know what all these fucking idiot deniers are so smug about - geoengineering aka chemtrails if admitted by everyone - gov, military and media
fucking bellends lol

 

[sal opette]

there no shades of grey? just black an white?

some of it is true, some of it not

I believe that the technology exists and governments have used it, not so sure how it's being used now or on what scale, pretty certain it's got nothing to do with lizards from space, illuminati etc

"fucking idiot denier...smug...bellend" i suppose thats me oh well be called worse.

Have a lovely day conspiracy breathers and non-conspiracy breathers

 

[SativaBreather]

who said anythin bout lizards from space?
as for all those things ya not sure about - go outside, look up, use your eyes, dont expect shit to be spoon fed to you

and none of those things did I call you

living in the s.e of england under the flightpaths of loads of airports you can see hundred of chemtrails everyday - you cant deny the evidence of your eyes. watch a trail come from a plane, then watch it sink, disperse and spread into a film of haze coevering the whole sky. I can see a clear blue sky early mornning and with in an hour 30 trails have made the sky turn white - hence only a fool can deny.
its like someone sticking a chainsaw up ya ass and someone saying 'hey doesnt that chainsaw up ya ass hurt?' and you saying 'what chainsaw?'

 

[trichrider]

high-bypass turbofan jet engines do not produce persistent contrails...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgL6b7VTxT4#t=756

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[trichrider]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEYQKA8EV3c

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consciousness beyond chemtrails

http://webhelper.centurylink.com/index.php?origURL=http%3A//www.consciousnessbeyondchemtrails.com/&r=

 

[trichrider]

Bill Gates backs climate scientists lobbying for large-scale geoengineering

Other wealthy individuals have also funded a series of reports into the future use of technologies to geoengineer the climate

• What is geo-engineering?
• Scientists criticise handling of geoengineering pilot project
Microsoft Corp. chairman Bill Gates speaks at a breakfast hosted by Climate Solutions in Seattle
The billionaire philanthropist Bill Gates is backing a group of climate scientists lobbying for geoengineering experiments. Photograph: Ted S. Warren/AP

John Vidal, environment editior

Monday 6 February 2012 05.18 EST

A small group of leading climate scientists, financially supported by billionaires including Bill Gates, are lobbying governments and international bodies to back experiments into manipulating the climate on a global scale to avoid catastrophic climate change.

The scientists, who advocate geoengineering methods such as spraying millions of tonnes of reflective particles of sulphur dioxide 30 miles above earth, argue that a "plan B" for climate change will be needed if the UN and politicians cannot agree to making the necessary cuts in greenhouse gases, and say the US government and others should pay for a major programme of international research.

Solar geoengineering techniques are highly controversial: while some climate scientists believe they may prove a quick and relatively cheap way to slow global warming, others fear that when conducted in the upper atmosphere, they could irrevocably alter rainfall patterns and interfere with the earth's climate.

Geoengineering is opposed by many environmentalists, who say the technology could undermine efforts to reduce emissions, and by developing countries who fear it could be used as a weapon or by rich countries to their advantage. In 2010, the UN Convention on Biological Diversity declared a moratorium on experiments in the sea and space, except for small-scale scientific studies.

Concern is now growing that the small but influential group of scientists, and their backers, may have a disproportionate effect on major decisions about geoengineering research and policy.

"We will need to protect ourselves from vested interests [and] be sure that choices are not influenced by parties who might make significant amounts of money through a choice to modify climate, especially using proprietary intellectual property," said Jane Long, director at large for the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in the US, in a paper delivered to a recent geoengineering conference on ethics.
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"The stakes are very high and scientists are not the best people to deal with the social, ethical or political issues that geoengineering raises," said Doug Parr, chief scientist at Greenpeace. "The idea that a self-selected group should have so much influence is bizarre."

Pressure to find a quick technological fix to climate change is growing as politicians fail to reach an agreement to significantly reduce emissions. In 2009-2010, the US government received requests for over $2bn(£1.2bn) of grants for geoengineering research, but spent around $100m.

As well as Gates, other wealthy individuals including Sir Richard Branson, tar sands magnate Murray Edwards and the co-founder of Skype, Niklas Zennström, have funded a series of official reports into future use of the technology. Branson, who has frequently called for geoengineering to combat climate change, helped fund the Royal Society's inquiry into solar radiation management last year through his Carbon War Room charity. It is not known how much he contributed.

Professors David Keith, of Harvard University, and Ken Caldeira of Stanford, [see footnote] are the world's two leading advocates of major research into geoengineering the upper atmosphere to provide earth with a reflective shield. They have so far received over $4.6m from Gates to run the Fund for Innovative Climate and Energy Research (Ficer). Nearly half Ficer's money, which comes directly from Gates's personal funds, has so far been used for their own research, but the rest is disbursed by them to fund the work of other advocates of large-scale interventions.

According to statements of financial interests, Keith receives an undisclosed sum from Bill Gates each year, and is the president and majority owner of the geoengineering company Carbon Engineering, in which both Gates and Edwards have major stakes – believed to be together worth over $10m.

Another Edwards company, Canadian Natural Resources, has plans to spend $25bn to turn the bitumen-bearing sand found in northern Alberta into barrels of crude oil. Caldeira says he receives $375,000 a year from Gates, holds a carbon capture patent and works for Intellectual Ventures, a private geoegineering research company part-owned by Gates and run by Nathan Myhrvold, former head of technology at Microsoft.

According to the latest Ficer accounts, the two scientists have so far given $300,000 of Gates money to part-fund three prominent reviews and assessments of geoengineering – the UK Royal Society report on Solar Radiation Management, the US Taskforce on Geoengineering and a 2009 report by Novin a science thinktank based in Santa Barbara, California. Keith and Caldeira either sat on the panels that produced the reports or contributed evidence. All three reports strongly recommended more research into solar radiation management.

The fund also gave $600,000 to Phil Rasch, chief climate scientist for the Pacific Northwest national laboratory, one of 10 research institutions funded by the US energy department.

Rasch gave evidence at the first Royal Society report on geoengineering 2009 and was a panel member on the 2011 report. He has testified to the US Congress about the need for government funding of large-scale geoengineering. In addition, Caldeira and Keith gave a further $240,000 to geoengineering advocates to travel and attend workshops and meetings and $100,000 to Jay Apt, a prominent advocate of geoengineering as a last resort, and professor of engineering at Carnegie Mellon University. Apt worked with Keith and Aurora Flight Sciences, a US company that develops drone aircraft technology for the US military, to study the costs of sending 1m tonnes of sulphate particles into the upper atmosphere a year.

Analysis of the eight major national and international inquiries into geoengineering over the past three years shows that Keith and Caldeira, Rasch and Prof Granger Morgan the head of department of engineering and public policy at Carnegie Mellon University where Keith works, have sat on seven panels, including one set up by the UN. Three other strong advocates of solar radiation geoengineering, including Rasch, have sat on national inquiries part-funded by Ficer.

"There are clear conflicts of interest between many of the people involved in the debate," said Diana Bronson, a researcher with Montreal-based geoengineering watchdog ETC.

"What is really worrying is that the same small group working on high-risk technologies that will geoengineer the planet is also trying to engineer the discussion around international rules and regulations. We cannot put the fox in charge of the chicken coop."

"The eco-clique are lobbying for a huge injection of public funds into geoengineering research. They dominate virtually every inquiry into geoengineering. They are present in almost all of the expert deliberations. They have been the leading advisers to parliamentary and congressional inquiries and their views will, in all likelihood, dominate the deliberations of the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) as it grapples for the first time with the scientific and ethical tangle that is climate engineering," said Clive Hamilton, professor of Public Ethics at the Australian National University, in a Guardian blog.

The scientists involved reject this notion. "Even the perception that [a small group of people has] illegitimate influence [is] very unhealthy for a technology which has extreme power over the world. The concerns that a small group [is] dominating the debate are legitimate, but things are not as they were," said Keith. "It's changing as countries like India and China become involved. The era when my voice or that of a few was dominant is over. We need a very broad debate."

"Every scientist has some conflict of interest, because we would all like to see more resources going to study things that we find interesting," said Caldeira. "Do I have too much influence? I feel like I have too little. I have been calling for making CO2 emissions illegal for many years, but no one is listening to me. People who disagree with me might feel I have too much influence. The best way to reduce my influence is to have more public research funds available, so that our funds are in the noise. If the federal government played the role it should in this area, there would be no need for money from Gates.

"Regarding my own patents, I have repeatedly stated that if any patent that I am on is ever used for the purposes of altering climate, then any proceeds that accrue to me for this use will be donated to nonprofit NGOs and charities. I have no expectation or interest in developing a personal revenue stream based upon the use of these patents for climate modification.".

Rasch added: "I don't feel there is any conflict of interest. I don't lobby, work with patents or intellectual property, do classified research or work with for-profit companies. The research I do on geoengineering involves computer simulations and thinking about possible consequences. The Ficer foundation that has funded my research tries to be transparent in their activities, as do I."

• This article was amended on 8 February 2012. The original stated that Phil Rasch worked for Intellectual Ventures. This has been corrected. This article was further amended on 13 February 2012. Prof Caldeira has asked us to make clear that the fact that he advocates research into geoengineering does not mean he advocates geoengineering.

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2012/feb/06/bill-gates-climate-scientists-geoengineering

 

[HidingInTheHaze]

A major Coronal Mass Ejection was due to make contact with Earth today, I bet my friends around the world are seeing them out in force today.



"A partial halo Coronal Mass Ejection (CME) was generated by major X1.6 solar flare on November 7, 2014.

WSA/ENLIL modeling of the event shows a partially Earth-directed component that is expected to impact the geomagnetic field early to midday on November 10 causing active to major storm conditions (G1-G2, Minor to Moderate).

Potential impacts: Area of impact primarily poleward of 55 degrees Geomagnetic Latitude. Induced currents - power grid fluctuations can occur.

High-latitude power systems may experience voltage alarms. Satellite orientation irregularities may occur; increased drag on low Earth-orbit satellites is possible. HF (high frequency) radio propagation can fade at higher latitudes. Aurora may be seen as low as New York to Wisconsin to Washington state"

 

[harold]

http://www.zengardner.com/chemtrails-nuclear-connection/

Chemtrails and the Nuclear Connection