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imnotcrazy

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From 1TokeOverLine's thread located at
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=18473

"So far one formula has come out ahead and there are some instruction changes:

1/4 cup Baking Soda
1/2 cup Apple Cider vinegar
1 Tablespoon Lemon Juice
2 drops dish detergent
1/4 Teaspoon Epsom Salts

Take a cup of very hot water and desolve the epsom salts,take rest of ingredients and place in a clean 2 liter bottle and let work out. Add epsom solution. Add water to fill to 48ozs(3/4 full).Shake well.

TO USE: Cover soil/medium with plastic,with lights off mist plant all over,especialy under leaves,
Wait 20 mins,then spritz off with clean fresh water shaking as much water off plant as you can.
The fresh water spritz rinse will remove the solution along with the desolved remains of the mites and their eggs.

Have fun with your new "Mite Eradicator"

Note by MrFixit: Water plants 1/2 hour before spraying. This will help keep your plants from absorbing the spray.

This solution has been tested and used as directed will not burn plants,the rinse is very important though as it removes the spent solution before it can concentrate and burn the plant. It also removes most of the dead mites and eggs so you don't end up smoking them.

The formula can be diluted further,to 1 liter and it will still kill the mites but isn't as effective at dissolving and removing the mite parts.
Since removing the mite debris is desirable,I recommend the stronger solution,just remember to rinse and shake.
This formula is alkaline(about 7.8-8) so please remember to rinse.

Mite irradication is absolutely assured and guaranteed if used as directed.
I've never seen ANYTHING work this well for mite irradication!!
I used to gas my booths for mites,it worked but they came back,I haven't seen a living mite in a long time now.They haven't come back,partly because of cooler weather,partly because I hosed the Roses that were infecting everything with the formula and wiped out all the mites during testing.
The only thing I wish I'd done different is,I wish I would have done sections of the Roses and preserved
some of the mites for later tests.I've had to go searching for victims to test it on and there just aren't any left!! I did find some victims for my final tests in the park where we have meetings,the plants by the river are pretty sickly and infested(were I should say,I walked around with ONE pint bottle and cleaned up most of the area.LOL)
If news of this formula were to become widespread,mites would become an endangered species!!!So GOOD HUNTING !
Seasider"


"PM'd BankRobber and he told me to post this:
I have been experimenting with similar formulas, so far 2 work.
Trial #1: 1/2 cup baking soda , 1 cup vinegar , 1/2 cup apple juice. Dilute to 2 liters.

Trial #2 1/2 cup baking soda , 1 cup vinegar , 3 tablespoons lemon juice , 2 drops dish soap .
Dilute to 40 fluid oz's.

I've tried this on: Wandering Jew,Spider Plant,Fushias,Gladiolis,Roses,Sweet Elysium,Clovers,Daisy,
Rhodadendron, Lawn(grass)
So far it works,both formulas. #2 works best outside and best overall
It has killed any small insects I've tried it on except FLEAS(Darn it!)
So far its killed mites,thrips(Adult),aphids,clover mites, whatever mite type insects that were all over the Gladiolis and it sickened and effected Grass Gnats and mosquitoes.(the mist knocked them down,couldn't find them in the grass to watch if they died but they were having difficulty flying)
I'm waiting for long term effects on the plants I've sprayed,before I'll try it on my plants.
Try mixing up some and try it outside on whatever you can find with an infestation.
The original recipe from a Landscape gardener was: 1/2 cup baking soda, 1 cup vinegar,2cups apple peels.
Blend/Puree , filter , dilute to 2 liters. I haven't tried this one yet (no apple peels).
The trick seems to be 1/2 cup Baking soda to 1 cup vinegar,diluted to approximately 2 liters.
The dishsoap helps wetting & the juices boost effect. #2 seems to help with molds/fungus also.It reduced blackspot on Roses,Gladiolis and Rhodi's and white mold on Roses.( The coast is a perfect proving ground for this stuff!!! We have ALL the bugs and molds !!! I don't have to go far to find infestations of all kinds.)
Seasider"

"REPORT:
For 2 days I have hosed my backyard with this stuff,so far it has reduced blackspot & powdery mildew(white mold),killed all the small insects(size seems to matter on kill,gnats or smaller).
The only plants adversely affected so far are FERNS (they don't like it much,wilted some).
The fleas seem unaffected as are the garden spiders,wood lice,beetles and other large hard insects.
I'm using it far more than necessary to see if it hurts the plants. Repeating doses even after the bugs are dead. The gladiolis were REALY bad with blackspot mold and some kind of black sucker insects about the size of a pinhead.The Glads are doing fine both mold and insects gone! The wandering jew and spider plants are actualy perking up from it.The clover mites? WIPED OUT! Rose mites? WIPED OUT! Grass gnats and mosquitoes? VASTLY REDUCED! Scale insects? DEAD! Aphids?DEAD![THE GARDEN??? (smells like a "Caeser Salad" ! ) ALIVE.]
Seasider "

"Hey Everyone,

I think Seasider is onto something and that's it so cool to see people taking action and experimenting with organic ingredients!
I'm certainly going to try his formula!
It cost me over $300 to manufacture what I came up with, and that dose not include all the labor and the over two weeks it take to complete each batch!
Seasider's stuff is a fraction of the cost, and I can't see any adverse reactions from the ingredients mentioned.
Except for invertebrates "the soap" would kill them, but then we don't need it in our fish tank now do we?

A key test will be to see if any eggs rehatch or if the plants are reinvested, however respraying with an inexpensive home made product may be worth it to so many!
I say GREAT job & keep up the good fight!

Please keep us informed of your test. and results!

BankRobber!"

"Report:
There seems to be some mild burning where the solution was left on and collected/concentrated.
I would recommend using the 2 liter dilution and spritzing with fresh water afterward and shaking off as much as possible so the formula doesn't collect and concentrate itself to the point it burns tender leaves.
I didn't notice any damage except where it had concentrated and dried,so spritzing and shaking off should do the trick.As far as effectiveness goes,wow! The death and destruction it deals to mites is impressive !!
Popping browning eggs melting,imploding adults,body parts and debris slowly dissolving......EXTREMELY GRATIFYING !!!
TRY IT YOU'LL LIKE IT !!
The BORG rule ,of mite terror, is OVER !!!!

WARNING !!
A member had severe burning that he attributes to residues drawn out of the container by the vinegar.
USE A CLEAN CONTAINER !! Do not use realy strong vinegar or any with SULFITES in it.
NO SULFITES"

BOTTOM LINE IS IT WORKS AND THEY DON'T COME BACK
 

BabyHughie

Member
Time2Unite said:
tell me about it...last time i think my buddy can handle a grow without me coming over every 3-4 days. we were splitting it 50/50 and i took some clone moms home, about 2 weeks later i notice some mites on the cutting so i call him and say hey i got mites and i never had any before so go check....later he says nope all good...so i don't go their for about 2 weeks because i figured he had it under control and i was busy so when i go there all excited because they were on about week 4 thats the site i see when i get there lol. washed them off, blasted them with neem, washed them off, then released the predator mites, you need to wash them off after the neem or the neem will kill the predators.....after seeing the eggs with the 30x scope and a few mites still around that didn't die the predators ate everything, mites and eggs in about a week.

Thats hillarious man, sounds like an 'observant' fellow. :biglaugh: What was his response when you got there and went OMG WTF!!!!!!!!?

PS Im sure it was not (the least bit) funny at the time!
 
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Guest

:joint: For the record - borgs rode in on clones in '05. I found the Mite Eradicator mix formula discussions and joined in on the testing. I've been mite-free since Thanksgiving 2005. Thanks Seasider & Bankrobber! :joint:
 
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vhGhost

i've got some 6 day old Rooted clones, with fair amount of roots coming out, should i just make a the mite eradicator and dip the clones into it? or would i still just want to spray them? ... and i'm guessing that i would want to dilute like it says in the intructions?!
 
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vhGhost said:
i've got some 6 day old Rooted clones, with fair amount of roots coming out, should i just make a the mite eradicator and dip the clones into it? or would i still just want to spray them? ... and i'm guessing that i would want to dilute like it says in the intructions?!

The formula is for a low cost simple eradicator solution to spray or "mist". I wouldn't dip, or let soak long, for that matter. New growth is too fragile for the high alkalinity and wilts off, but new growth returns after misting. This is important to understand during veg and flowering - new growth, nug hairs, and fan leaf tips will burn, this is normal. I'd rather burn a little and take a tiny hit in yeild than lose the entire plant to a full blown borg attack.

I added 1/4 tspn of liquid organic dish washing soap which seems to help "glaze" the leaf - the soap gets the mix to stick. Too much and you got a gooey mess, too little and it just runs off quickly.

There's a fine timeline on how long to leave it on before rinse. Recommendations were to not let it dry. However in my tests it seems to keep anything from returning by its' waxy coating on the leaf. My gut feeling is you have to feel the plant, if you follow me. I know my strains and what stresses them beyond recovery, and when I treat I watch them closely for affects. If the plant shows stress I rinse sooner, the plant must be taking in the mix (which defeats our purpose - we want the surface of the plant to kill and repell borgs). If the mix sets on the plant tissue long enough the plant will absorb it into the system with sometimes disasterous results. Cappucinno and Sour Saver do not want anything to do with it and quickly shows you with fucked up PH symptoms - burning, wilting, etc.

For tender new plants I dilute the mix to 3 two-litre jugs, and mist large surface areas, taking care how much gets on new growth shoots. Then rinse quickly by throrough misting, care taken to keep the mix from dripping into the soil-less mix. We don't want the plant absorbing it through the leaves or the roots, it will give them a bigtime tummy ache.

Feel free to PM if you need guidance or merely a sounding board to solve a problem. :joint:
 

BabyHughie

Member
VH for new clones a good 'dunking' is perfect! Whenever I get clones from an outside source, I ALWAYS make them take a swim in some neem. I recently got some cuts that were infested. They took a swim and I sprayed them with neem every few days for a few weeks and I have not seen any mites since! I try to spray with neem weekly as a preventative measure.

The formula is for a low cost simple eradicator solution to spray or "mist". I wouldn't dip, or let soak long, for that matter. New growth is too fragile for the high alkalinity and wilts off, but new growth returns after misting. This is important to understand during veg and flowering - new growth, nug hairs, and fan leaf tips will burn, this is normal. I'd rather burn a little and take a tiny hit in yeild than lose the entire plant to a full blown borg attack.

Very true, I use neem when I do it, but I would still give them a dunk in a diluted soulution and then just wash it off with distilled water shortly after. I have zero experience with this solution so I would listen to 1toke if thats what your gonna use.

Really, if you gently 'shake' them while underwater, that alone is probably gonna knock off most of the buggers, so plain water would probably work.

Ive seen people just blast EVERY single leaf of a plant with plain water to get rid of bugs.
 
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Guest423

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BabyHughie said:
Thats hillarious man, sounds like an 'observant' fellow. :biglaugh: What was his response when you got there and went OMG WTF!!!!!!!!?

PS Im sure it was not (the least bit) funny at the time!


well we had 30 plants in 3 gal containers and the ones in the middle were like the one in the pic and the outside rows weren't as bad, so he must of barely looked, i don't see how you can water and foilar feed without seeing the webs lol

i was like what the hell is this? i thought you said there wasn't any mites.....he goes " oh i guess i really didn't notice ", then i say " how can't you notice this"? he goes " it must of just happened in the last 2 days", i said " ok whatever man " lol. having mites before and talking to people that have had mites i knew that kind of infestation doesn't just happen overnight lol, there was millions just in that 1 pic i showed...thats pure mites in that web. i wasn't mad but i knew he wasn't able to handle anything on his own.
 

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