spyder mites

[Maj.PotHead]

well after 2 days i can honestly say the SMC killed most i do mean most of the mites in 1 aplication. i was seeing small citys on the plants tops now the mites are lucky if i see a straggler here or there i'll still get the nps and hang in there for next 1.5-2 wks. my plants are starting to produce flowers

 

[billbob]

How long can you keep a NoPestStrip in a room without plant problems or unhealthy smoke?

 

[BluntItUp]

With spider mties I had tried evrything. Only way to get rid of spider mite for me was AVId. If you want to completely get rid of mites get avid.

 

[Guest423]

you think it worked you mean, wait for another 2 weeks when all the eggs hatch and the few mites u missed that are under the leaves, on the stem, or in your soil get back to mating.

 

[sproutco]

Easiest thing to do is take the plants and put them in the shower. Rinse both the undersides and tops of the leaves. Do this often. They will think it is a hurricane.

 

[Guest423]

mites are the worse thing to deal with, well them and hermies, if you have a plant or two it's easy to take care of but if you have any numbers your best bet is spraying with neem, then rinse your plants, then release the predators and it's over, no maybes about it!

 

[chepnut]

you think it worked you mean, wait for another 2 weeks when all the eggs hatch and the few mites u missed that are under the leaves, on the stem, or in your soil get back to mating.

Avid is a miticide that contains Abamectin, which is a mixture of avermectins, which are antibiotic compounds derived from the soil bacterium Streptomyces avermitilis. Abamectin acts as an insecticide by affecting the nervous system of and paralyzing insects. Abamectin is used to control insect and mite pests of citrus, pear, and nut tree crops, and it is used by homeowners for control of fire ants.

Because mites stay only on the backs of leaves, control requires thorough coverage of the backs of all leaves. Because of the difficulty of spraying under all leaves, the most popular miticide in BASF's Abamectin, sold in many areas under the trade name Avid. Growers appreciate Avid, because it is partially systemic. On young foliage, Avid penetrates and is effective through the leaf. This chemical, which is synthesized from a natural bacterium in the soil, cannot penetrate mature foliage or move from one leaf to another.

Semisystemic means that it stays on the leafs surface for a couple of weeks so any mite that my happen to land on that leaf and try to take nibble is toast! It also gets the eggs, you can spray it but the best way to use it IMO is to take your rooted clones or seedlings and dip them in a 2 gal bucket or even a large plastic cup like the kind you get from a mini mart. I like to dip because it makes sure that the whole plant gets coated and it reduces the chance of me getting Avid in my eyes or lungs (even though it says that its not harmful to mamals) Unless your grow area is completly infested and you have mites all over, or you don't take care of your grow area such as clean, disinfect, and vacume, don't introduce infected plants you should be 100% mite free.

I say this from experience, I have tried almost every mite solution out there, from neem, einstien oil, just about every organic clove/garlic/hot pepper mix I could find, made my own from recipes found here and other websites, pyrethium bombs and sprays, and no pest strips.

They all work to some degree, the oil sprays work but are a lot of work if you have a lots of plants you need to try to cover and are also messy/stinky (nothing like having your arm smell like neem/garlic all day because of drips and overspray) Bombs work great to the adults but you have to stagger the bombs every 3 days to make sure you get the remainders after they hatch from the eggs. Then there are no pest strips, used to be my favorite I would have so many you would think that I was decorating a Xmas tree, great for killling anything that crawls or creeps around in the vicinity. But for me they only seem to last a little while or dont do the job 100%. So now I use Avid and don't have any mite problems, I still have some no pest strips hanging around but mostly to try to kill anything other than mites that happen to come along.

Now for Spider Mite Control (SMC), there are 2 different versions. There is the old formula that actually said spider mite control on the bottle and didnt list what was in it, it didn't really have to much of a odor smelled kinda like a soy oil spray and it worked great. They pulled that off the self, I think due to lable problems and came out with SMC the leaf wash, and smells just like SM-90, if you look at the back of a bottle of SM-90 they have the same exact active ingredients and at the same ratio.

 

[sproutco]

Semisystemic means that it stays on the leafs surface for a couple of weeks

Persistent may be a better word to use rather than semisystemic. Good post.

 

[dre86]

Seems like you aint spraying the neem oil right

http://www.hightimes.com/ht/grow/content.php?bid=13&aid=8

edit: this you need

 

[Maj.PotHead]

wow this thread is still alive honestly i used the SMC @ a 1 tsp per 12oz water and a drop or two dish washing liquid. then got 1 hot shot no pest strip havent seen a mite since 1 wk after, i'm on my flush now so the strip is removed. side note when i topped off my grow bags w/soil i used FF ocean forrest and got soil gnats grrrrrrr placed 2inch of perlite on soil and the no pest strip at soil level and the gnats where killed. soil gnats i find easier to kill then mites but my next run with clones i'll neem as a preventive messure and run a new no pest strip

 

[HydroManiac]

The smc stuff is great for killing them right away but it seems they will come back. There are some mites that have a tolerance towards the pest strips because of this problem it's important to rotate what you use to fight them with or you end up with one tough group of mites and if they get to resistant to things you are using the only choice you may have then is to use some kill anything and everything product and start all over again from scratch.


HM

 

[Guest]

For those having less then great luck with the No Pest Strips, Make sure you have your exhaust set up to turn off from 2-5 hours at some point, most likely when the lights are off. This wil cause the pesticide to permiate the grow area more efficently and create higher levels of the active chemicls needed to effictivly eradicate pests.

 

[Guest423]

fiest your eyes on this....we cured this problem with neem and predator mites....enough said.

 

[BabyHughie]

fiest your eyes on this....we cured this problem with neem and predator mites....enough said.

NOW THAT is an infestation! WOW!!!! Thats a truely gut wrentching site!

 

[Guest423]

tell me about it...last time i think my buddy can handle a grow without me coming over every 3-4 days. we were splitting it 50/50 and i took some clone moms home, about 2 weeks later i notice some mites on the cutting so i call him and say hey i got mites and i never had any before so go check....later he says nope all good...so i don't go their for about 2 weeks because i figured he had it under control and i was busy so when i go there all excited because they were on about week 4 thats the site i see when i get there lol. washed them off, blasted them with neem, washed them off, then released the predator mites, you need to wash them off after the neem or the neem will kill the predators.....after seeing the eggs with the 30x scope and a few mites still around that didn't die the predators ate everything, mites and eggs in about a week.

 

[Maj.PotHead]

right on but what about the predators what happens to them ???

 

[Guest423]

after every mite and egg are gone they just die.

 

[vhGhost]

Damn, i've always wanted to try predator mites, i've had an infestation that took up about 16square feet. not what you want to see 10 days before they get chopped. although you really don't want them 10 days into flower.

 

[nobodyknew]

Spider mites truly are the Borg..............
If all esle fails you might decide to employ this - it's a sure thing.....
A little bit indiscrimate for most but very effective....


You might also want to ensure that in your enthusiasm you don't want to end up like this......


Hope it all works out for you.....

 

[Guest423]

hey chepnut, why don't you tell them mights in my pic that they only are suppose to live on the backside of leaves?